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CVs can spot and support members anywhere on the map. That are two useful traits for Team Play. No it is necessary to Keep the Player engaged in the rework Concept. and WG toned down pure Damage in return. You may not like it but that doesn't mean it is "broken" Dude (and please leave the RTS CVs out of this)

No. Only if you overbuff AA that stupidly that all a CV gets is one strike only That's a terrible idea as it makes it incredibly dull No it is not. It is possibly but WG hasn't found it yet. Again: a CV Needs to be able to strike once at the very Minimum. against medium and weaker AA multiple times and so on. Still AA Needs to be a mean to mitigate but not deny CV attacks

How are they lacking Team Utility compared to eg. battleships? They can strike Pretty much anywhere on the map to support any Team member at Need. How is that not Teamplay? Again how is that different to any other ship in the game? I don't see it as black / White. Yes the CV Needs to be able to strike. But higher AA can cause higher Costs of striking. Doesn't Need to be YES OR NO Judging from a couple of Players? Averages don't look too scary

I agree that skill attack vs AI defense is a terrible concept - I give you that. But still I think you can find a middle ground - which you seem to deny. I think it is somewhere where CVs can still press a strike through to any ship but at costs rising with the AA. On the other hand, as long as the surface ship gets the feedback from AA doing work successful and strong AA can Mitigate (though not totally deny) the impact of strike it should be bearable. I think WG needs to avoid situations where the CV isn’t able to attack (because that is pretty much the core of the rework) on the one hand and where surface ships can’t mitigate strikes at all. Should be doable, no?

You still haven’t convinced me yet why you think it is impossible to find The sweet spot / „balance“ where both sides can enjoy the game and neither „feels helpless“.

@Walther_K_Nehring + @Parasitkaffee Könnt ihr es bitte so einrichten, dass Walther die Stimme für Deutschland angibt und Parasit ein abgestimmtes Voting für Österreich-Ungarn? Das würde die Auszählung in Zukunft entsprechend vereinfachen. PS: ist das derzeitige Voting bereits derart gelagert?

Of course the good players will find a way make things work. But seriously - why create a new class for 100 or so players?

Sooooooo, @MrConway / Mr @Crysantos Looks like the numbers you love so much reflect the questionable state our CVs are in: Number of CVs played down, Damage down, kills down. But you have these numbers yourself Now - there are the next two Nerf-Hammers on the way: Long Range DPS buff in 0.8.6 and the new semi-def-AA button for everyone soon after My Question is: WHAT THE FRUITCAKE IS THE COMPENSATING ACTION TO KEEP CVs VIABLE IN THE HEAT OF THE NERF-FEST-SLAUGHTER?

Plus mind you that the EXP number is entirely meaningless unless you know the ship specific factor. However, kills and damage tells you already enough. All T8 CVs just at or even below 50k average and comfortably below 1 kill. Even Monarch is higher - and that’s not a monster either. Mui balans comrade. Hey and compare that with the CV game numbers Elazer posted - what a surprise. (And Yes, we know E is more equal so I don’t give a sh* about her stats)

Ein kleines bisschen OT: aber ich hätte RPF gern so gehabt, dass eine ungefähre Positionsangabe nur dann erscheint, wenn der Gegner sein Funk benutzt (also die Karte pingt, F-Comms nutzt oder chatted)

Gute Vorschläge scheint WG und Mr @Sehales nicht zu interessieren. Interaktion: gern. Aber noch mehr AA Buffs? NEIN!!!!!!

If that’s the only thing you find strange with regards to realism in this game - lucky you

0,0 um Träger kümmern = AA overbuffed

Hat Mr TannHouse vorher noch seinen Stimmzettel eingeworfen?

Nö. AA overbuffed und zwei weitere AA Buffs in der Pipeline (Long Range Buff in 0.8.6 und der AA Button in 0.8.7?) Würde eher sagen: alle sind derzeit moderat unzufrieden (das NTC hat aber viel Aufmerksamkeit weggenommen - wahrscheinlich war das so geplant. Wie bekomme ich Angst vor dem Feuer weg? Indem ich ein noch größeres lege)

Wenn der neue AA-Monkeybutton kommt müssen die Kapitäne eh umgeskillt werden

Dann will ich mal DDs/BBs nach 6-Monaten Dauernerf-Festival sehen.

Slingshot ist aber kein Bug sondern eine Konsequenz des Designs. Deswegen wird/kann WG den auch nicht einfach fixen

Average numbers EDIT: although I am not claiming to be the person to tell if they are OP UP or whatever either

You are certainly asking the wrong person for that. This Sunleeeder dude keeps just repeating his “feeeeeeelings” since month in walls of text but since he’s in my igno the forum is a much better place. Don’t really remember a single helpfully post by that guy but anyway. However are they OP? I would say no. There may be exceptions like Enterprise but across the board? Doubt it

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