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well having a Zep in your team means you have no air suport in a T8 match in a T9/10 match you can just quit out wour hardpressed to do 20k

well i saw 20k on a friedrich in a perfect drop....shokakus TB do more direct damage and it has DB to follow up AND better fighter.

its no fun . Remember enterprise AP bombs agis german BBs? Well Grafs do NOT do that on Top of having no DB to follow up. HE Bombs are kind of ok but then you have a crap CV with crap fighters that are hard pressed to outfight Kotoris floatplane and a copple some semi decent DB that have no fighter suport unless you ran into a strike Lexi..... DO NOT BUY.

Well at least the points you made are player errors not design ones like in BBs......of course BBS dont even realize they made gamechanging errors because they dont die instantly like DDs. Knowing when and were to commit your HP in a BB is the thing that sets a good BB player apart from a bad.

what CVs exactly ? and high Tir ones have as insane aa as the US BBs just more in the mid range aura.......

Wrong your MORE impactfull sadly this ship still works perfectly fine firing HE from 16 to 20 km......its like saying yea i can get 200k by doing switches instead of 100 to 120k with just facerolling its stpidly OP..

Thats not the point sure you can be better if you switch but in that regard its like a Zao Zao has good AP too .....but you never even need to touch it to get resonable to good results. conqu is basically a faceroll ship... even khaba needs more thoghts to what it does compared to her.....

Well they went from high skill RN Cruisers that die if you make the slightest Mistake to no Skill BBs that do not worry about basic game mechanics. Honestly there a various vids out showing what they do with just firing HE. Doing the equivalent of decent AP pen salvos with HE and seting fire like crazy ? That surely solve the BB overpopulation problem,,,,,,,,not, wht is exactly wrong with normal HE pen? and why do we need superstealth BBs with gunranges in exess of 20km? stealth IS wrong on BBs and nerfing that would get rid of a lot of BB related problems(and i not talk about the RN BB line only). But WG seems to have forgoten or given up on the fact that there are 4 classes of ships not just one....

Once upon a Time CV ccomented "We will not bring any new CV line or prem CV till CV rework is done" Now they throwing out one prem CV in the high prem Price Segment one after another? Nobster comented that WG Thinks the 1st part of CV revamp is done? Lets Take a look of what they did. They put in a cople of prem CVs that messes with Techtree CVs in one way or another big time They rebond some keys and called it an "alternativ" controll. They took out any skill out of low Tir CVs by removing base gamecontrolls. They did not: Give new Players any way to get tinto CV gameplay Really worked over and unresposive UI that make Dune battle for Arakis looking like a holo 2020 game...... Worked on the fact that CV dont work if they are Butom Tir............... Sorry to say even if you call it whining enogh is enogh........IF WG has no Vision on the matter they shoud cmunicate it and stop developing CVs, This Treatment year after year is just an Insult to the comunity Instead of Fixing the root Problem they throw one prem afer another?

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Or you just play them like other BB. Were do you get good Flanking shots into a BB this days in high tir? 90% it's bow or rear shots and no BB has torp protection there and catapult fighter aren't up all the time unless it's from a crusier.....

If not changed no reason to get a Montana. Conq has armor that does exactly the job as on any other BBs its oly hit harder by HE spam but with cruiser detectability and the posibility that they do not remove the superheal thats hardly matters..........

No fundamental change needed: set BBs only base detect lower to the point that it require TA module and aquisition skill to geto the point it is now. The BB has now a choise. I want the old detection or i want stealth and 3 skillpoints i can spend on damage or other survial skills.....that would be a 1st step. I wont solve the problem that DDs cant hit retreating BBs thogh (with a few T10 and 9 expections)

if the reaction time is the isue why not nerf BBs reaction time only ? anyone else has the time to react just BBs gets less`equals works only better ? instead they put IJN damage one one specific DD line and put a "balancing factor" on it and screw with CA/CL on top of it. Again one gimicy line wont solve the problem that is if their airm is to get in a resonable conter at all.

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There are no good shima players since it entirely either requies the enemy to be stupid and make mistakes or yourself ignoring objectives. Shima cant really play for caps since its enemys that rape her in a gun fight have the same or very near the same visibility while lower level IJN outspot her. As a pure Torp patform Yugumo with reload boster outperforms her.... Shima needs 300m to 400m more conceilment to be decent ship and having her original speed would help her too. But then again only RU gets their trial run speed as max speed and yea 15 Torp salvo sometimes hit something in a cap fight but but if you miss you have to wait near 2 Minutes to try again and a maneivering shima have trobble even outruning a slower gering so you forced to do getaway smoke nearly each time your spoted....

If the filter for displaying ARP contend works it should filter out comanders too even if they are now regular IJN comanders. WG had more than enogh posts complaing that there were aime icons on the Missions displayed they couldt disable. Mind you i like them but even so its a bit crap to have like 3 Hiei siting around....if a anime hater is forced to look at that each time he switch IJN comanders....

How about posting it in the recent update ofical bug post instead if ceating a new post that will fade into nothing soon? If its a bug there you will most likely get an ofical reply.

Well Vangaurd would fit T8 as much as a Bismark. Hell a lots of people thogh old tirpitz would never be able to hold its own agist amagi and NC with having not only higher caliber guns but also more of them. Its just sad that one of the navys wich fielded the most ships in 2 World wars is unable to fill a techtree whilw US can (Montana was laid diwn at least) 1 or 2 i could kind of understand due to the lack of latewar developments but Monach is really unneeded. Their griping abut gun progression is something they take out only when it fits their argument anyhow. Well its a shame that they hide real ships as premiums instead as part of the techtree anyhow free exp or not.

Wonder why they cant give options of 2 BBs at the same Tir like they do in WOT were you have sometimes 2 ways to progress in line. Anyway not a huge fan of fantasy ships that werent even laid down vs real ones and i say that as someone hy will have Nelson the second it goes live,,,,,

As it should or are you saying that its unfair but a cruiser that is chased in a corner by 3 yamatos having 0 surviaval chance is as it should be? If your outnumbered alone your srewed even then a BB can dish out heavy punishment while CA/CL canot reduce a BB from full to 0 in 30 seconds unless you let yoursel get torped at point blank range,,,,,your not playing agist bots that are only there to provide you with exp credits and enjoyment.....

I gave that as an example how they mishandled a problem AA and damage is still a secondary problem if you cant get players to play the class it dont even matter if you fix it low tir CVs are no fun to play and the UI is worse than Dune 2 Battle for arakis wich is a game from 1992 when it comes to unit manegment. But this is geting a bit offtopic. The point i made that from the outside development goes in the direction of feeling how a change is geting perceived and tweaking around that rather than having a clear vision what a new line should or should not work. CVs are a good example of that because tehy went from totaly unbalaced to a very niche class to play having the smalest number of players and that isnt only due to theoverall diferent gamemechanics that the rest of the ships. Tease days they balace mroe around gimics than simply delivering enjoyable ships. UK BB development is a good example with def fire superheal radar all on at some point it looks like they have do Idia what to bring to makle them unique when US and IJN BBs didnt have thease gimics and are still enjoyable ships. Inconsisting examples: IJN DDs buffing Turest turning speed and rof to make them use their guns more in the same turn lowering fire chance and alpha.......then removing stealthfire resuling them in being more often visible if your doing it as intended and geting still deleted my any other dd line in a gunfight you dont run away from.....Shima still the worst high tir DD becasue unlike the T8 and 9 it lacks the steath advantage and it cant outfight any other DDs using guns. Offering alternate IJN line: slow but stealthy ships.Shira can saturate teh sea with Torps a few times making it a great conter to smoke meta. Aki decent but high skillpoint depending supot ship...shira gets nerfed to the ground a 34 kn dd without smoke? the Torp reload bost basicall let Yugumo now does what Shira formerly did just better. Stealthfire nerf put Aki in the role of a smokefing ship.....with 33kn you never get away from a pushing cruiser or DD and dodging with its useless turning rad/and not existing agility isnt much better. Bufing RU DD HE damage (they underperformed?) they were allready the best harasing DDs in the game basically what light cruisers would love to be.........buffing Grosevoi again and again up to the point were its start to outgun Gering at any range but is till lightling fast and geting camo near to shima/Gering? just because nobody took her over khaba wich is NO DD at all and shouldnt even be in the DD line? stealthfire nerf for DDs the point is not they cant fire out of open water so much since the lines most efected cant hit at their max range anyhow but making spotingin caps a isue. AFT for air defence is a skilll that hurts DDs sudenly becasuse if the enemy smokes up in caps sudenly some BB 14km spots for him...... Slight buff to only 2 IJN DDs for Torp detection. theproblem efects all IJN DDs(others than the kamikaze clones) not just thease 2...... Increased range for Germ BBs secondarys even more? (again anybody thogh they were weak before?) Experimenting with AP Bombs wich dont hurt BBs specifically but a certain nation mostly (if you want a conter make it work agist ALL BBs. USS BBs allready benefiting by having better air defence making them take less damage makes them into non targets)

Well i preaching that CV need a overhaul for years especally the UI and im not heared (CVs need to be a fun class to pick up even more than and damage or other things) Make you mistakes i can live with changes that i personallly do not agree with if i see a direction that of development as a goal that makes the game better overall. But since "the good year for CVs" "no prem CVs till rework","no DD with radar" and developemts that goes to every new line has to have gimics and back and forth in development using leaks to guss how the larger comunity is reacting I have kind of lost my faith in WG when it comes to react to problems in any other way than to wait for the next big outcry. Im no Developer. I have my preffered classes but i play all classes and while im not a stelar player id like to think i understand how they interact. There are easy fixes to the BB problem that only needs balancing at one side. Things like geting rid of BB stealth and Torp detection comes to mind to lower BB survivability but then they add another line wich has the screcall featur of having "steathy BBs that gives you more tactical options". Im somtimes just astonished why someone cant see the easy fixes and insteat adds more gimicy stuff to deal with the syntoms creating even more problems in other areas as a result.

Didnt they said something silmular on AP bombs for US line CVs ( not that a specific weapon that works only vs 1 line of BBs would solve any problem either) Well they messing with that on the next prem CV atm we will see if they really want to get to the root of the problem. IF ships can set the Torps in a5 sejk cooldown between deepwater and normal seting im all up and wouldnt even care if deepwater only works vs BBs only. if you have to chose in port like the stupid thing they did with AP bombs? no thanks, Seriously id belive in WG if i see patchnotes stating something. All recent changes were directly or inderectly buffs to the single line that certainly dont need any. EIther way we dont need higher damage less detection Torps deleting cruisers becasue the problem isnt a CA/CL screening or doing its job of going after DDs. The problem is BBs that are largle not in need of any suport and deleting even their natural enemys if someone else spots them to easy. There a very few DDs that can fight a BB that isnt pushing using Torps and this wont change that either way.

Well even if this tool would work great at deleting BBs wich i dont see the problem is its on one line . If MM has 2 of them on one side and 0 on the other ? Creating a specific line to handle a generall problem wont work either wasy