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There are ways to make them work but your depend on geting 1 to 2 shots off then disengage either by cover or smoke. The real problem is that if an enemy DD or CA pushing he will keep in or near detection range because of teh few Kn of speed you lost over Mine/Mitsuki. Fubuki/kagaro are efected by this too but can compensate with longer Torp range. One of the reason Shimas are so dangerous is that she regains that speed advatage wich gives her more tactial options on Top of having 7 More Torps than Kagaro. Kazomir: Using your guns in an IJN DD is unless you can kill a very low Hp target or see that all turets are not pointing your way like hiting the self destruct botom. While apart from their range and rof IJN guns are quite good its not woth dieing over a copple of 127mm hit.

Actually Mutsuki is a strait tradeoff you pay for your range with reload speed. Hatsu is another can of worms because you trade Ship speed for better guns you never wanted to use in the 1st place.

Planes got faster from my point of view geting the size of the AA aura up is allways prefferable over a increased DPS with 86mm plus DP guns only. For full AA builds you need both anyway.

And you see if your enmy is afk? Either take the chance that he has some CA next to him and lose the chance to do any damage or try to outdamage him. You take some seroious risk trying to snipe when your not in a division. Because you cant fully stop a strike setup atack on your own unless he let you strafe him. Just sounds to me that the new HE bombs to too much damage on their own in RNG drop mode.

Yo aber das hat nix mit teamplay zu tun. CA bestehen zu 60 % aus cits ein Treffer und das spiel ist für dich vorbei endweder direkt oder man hat so wenig HP übring und kann den rest des spieles nix mehr machen aber man soll ja vor den ´BBs rumschipern Torps spoten und die eigenen DDs unsterstützen. Wen man das tut ist man instant tot . Lungert man auf max range rum beschweren sich alle man würde seinen job nicht machen. Wundert mich nicht das leute die keinen bock auf alle 30 sek RNG knopf zu drücken lieber DDs fahren in letzter zeit.

Geht aber auch so: Eine Torp salve ausweichen eine Yamato salve kommt rein game over für mich als CA. So fix sterben BBs nicht an Shima Torps. Hat man echt keinen Bock mehr auf CA spielen. Einzige chance am kartenrand rumlungern warten welche DDs abräumen und reste aufgabeln. CA haben keinerlai daseinsberechtigung in High end games es sei den die eigene seite ist eh am gewinnen.

Well there are builds that rely on guns for US there are none for IJN because for them its last resort when they cant shake the oponent anyway or need to decap. If it were 1:1 in a pure gun fight US are more than 2 times better due to higher rof alone

HMS Campbeltown: Orginal USN Wickes Class done nothing noteworthy but coliding 2 times with friendly ships and being used as a swiming Bomb agist a Frensh drydock. Another ploy to make fast money out of an exiting model under another flag. I highly doubt she is giving The arment she jad on her last voyage because 1 6 ponder and 8 20mm would make a bad prem ship. 2ed downside even as a prem is the sandbox MM for low T unless she gets 8km Torps and get bumped to T4/T5 suddenly

I woudnt underestimate her real DPM CA need to dance a lot and the Gunlayout/Turetspeed really suport MKs playstyle while Atago usally has some Turets that cant fire.

Evil thoght: MK didnt sold to well in the 1st bundle because Tirpitz came out at the same time for the nearly the same bundle price. 2ed Try unbundled and buffed while nerfing its only direct comparable compeditions 155mm config into the ground (Mogami)...... Good ship anyway killed 3 ships with around 250 hits and got near 470k on a loss yesterday. Good dor the ARP Missions atm. Pay to win? Dont think so just togeter with Atago marks the point wich all T8 CA should be around compared to other classes.

Yes in the same way Arc Royal sunk Bismark with the stearing hit. Lucky hit on chokai to be sure that didnt directly cased the destuction that was later caused by Aircrafts and the fact that the IJN didnt controlled the battlefield. Still pretty amazing how a 19.kn Escort CV could survive that to be sure.

Akagi and Kaga had heavy arty too thogh unless they are like 10km range they are useless for anything but being decorations anyway. Actually Saratogas are a drawback because they cant dobble as AA Guns and thats the only real guns that matter as an CV. I cant really remember a single Time a CV got into Gun Range in WW2 and the engagement as a whole went good for the CV.

NO has 12.4 detection without camo skill or paint. It also has the lowest radar range but then again it can face T6 and T7 DDs wich are caped to 10km range Torps making it really lethal agist them (as if that would be nessesarry with anybody seeing the Shima with its 15 Tubes the real problem). But oh well WG never were known to fix the real problem without seriously screwing something else over for a few patches. Well US CA needed some kind of boost to be compeatable. Just too bad that RU will probably beat them at their game anyway and with mogami 155 mm config being unplayable it will probable comes to them to "balance" the perceived DD problems.

Well most were wins anyway .-). Love Nagatos who cant find their A and D key good exp for poor Fujins. But seriously why make a balace were nations per side are balanced but then habe 6 ships of one type on one side and 2 on the other? a 1 ship diference ok but 6 dd on one 2 on the other in 4 cap games are sure dont give a tiny advantage to one side.

You dont need to stay afar for long because most discusing Radar are missing one point: What will happen to a CA that opens up to a DD that means being near some key points most likely in the middle of the map? The second it fires a shot any BB and most CA will target him on top of the DDs he is hunting droping his Torps while geting his BEEP out with engine Boost. So you most likely trade a CA for DD and even thats not a 100% chace of a kill. Radar will be a boon when your team is allready wining and have a sizeable force advantage otherwise it just promotes geting the CA killed even more early. It will be totaly OP vs low Tir DDs thogh i dont envy T6 to 7 DDs having face T8 RAdar equiped CAs.

Nicht jeder hat eine Kongo. Nicht jeder fährt IJN BBs. Nicht jeder hat die ARP Kongo. Und selbst wen ist es ne möglichkeit 3 mal Tages Exp abzustauben wen man alle 3 hat. Wie immer niemandes wird was genommen dürch die ARP missionen und niemand der sie nicht sehen will sieht sie. WArum brauchstst "du" sie in bunt? ist ein wenig " ich" bezogen. Leben und leben lassen göhn doch denen die es wollen die schiffe.

Overall ship hased IJN AA seems to have suffered greatly. Tryed out a Mogami AA build with aft ,Manuel AA controll and extended range modules and got less kills overall than in the few games i ran acoss CV planes than before the patch with just AFT. Why give options that are situaional and dont give decent returns? Same with inc Torp speed. Great news for CV but basically its only a buff for US since a few patches back you nerfed it for IJN. As IJN you now need to pay with a captain skill and increased activation distance for something you allready once had.

Well i tryed out Full AA build after patch. It was way worse than just having AFT before patch. Taking 8 AA points for 2 T4 skill and imp AA range Module and having that little situational return sure is an Insult.

Always Last Stand no matter what nation. Gering killed by geting crited 2 times in 10 sek isnt worth the faster reaload. Take that as skill 17.

Actually WG does care get to Jingles and look up his Wargaming HQ wisit the part with Victor. Even if a player dosnt pay a cent he is part of the greater economy and if he has fun anyway might bring in new players wich in turn might pay for certain WG services. WG overall takes the long view route. Someone playing for years without paying is more worth than someone paying 100 euro and leaving after 3 month

And whould a The same number of Yamatos shooting at the CA it would be dead in 2 Salvos instead of having his course looked for 20 sek.

Insgesamt waren es halbherzige schnellumbau entwürfe Wen nen Akagi/KAga Rumf ne vernümfige Fluggruppe aufnehmen kann kann das ein Yamatorumpf auch nur wurden die planungen von der realität überholt da es als sie in Dienst gestellt wurde die IJN Träger keien rolle mehr spielten. Und ja ich glaube das selbe Thema hatten wir als Shinano als T10 Träger währe besser gewesen asl so nen Fantasy gebilde wie wir es nun haben ,-)

Sinano war als Transver Träger gedacht. Neben seiner relativ kleinen eigenen Airgroup konnte sie um die 250 auseinandergebaute Flugzeuge mitnehmen die dan anch und nach zusamengebaut und tranverriet werden solten oder halt auf insels in pack zustand abgeladen werden sollten. Wen man den "storage" raum in echte hangar umgebaut hätte währe auch ne pasable Airgroup an bord gewesen. Zuden war das an Deck parken was bei den US Trägern gang und Gebe war bei den Japanern unüblich. Nicht das einige der Träger hier nicht die realen Flugzeugmengen an Bord hätten.

Well everone his arguement. Was Mogami one of the best t8 Ca? Yes, is that enogh reason to nerf her down instead of buffing all other T8 CA becasue overall high Tir CA are too weak? There is allways more than one solution to a problem. Mogami wasnt only a good firestarter it was allso one of the ships that could with the help of your sides DD get close enogh to enemy undetected to hit the BEEEP out of them and High Tir DDs thertainly arent seen as a problem. ....(danger dagaer sarcasm)Well now you can allways buy a prem to do the same a bit worse....

It can have 100 40mm for all i care but 2 TB? Why nerf Essex /Midway and then bring in another 2 TB US CV?