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A sub has no smoke, and can't move fast. That's not the point. A BB can't see a DD, either a SS. Both are invisible for a BB without any help. Doesn't matter if the enemy is submerged or not. Though it's easier to escape from a SS, than from a DD.

Well, guess this game is mainly about PVP, so they focus on that. This game is already a niche game, and PVE in this game is even more a niche. So guess that's why they are not going with that.

In a same way like a bb can fight a DD. Mostly you pay attention and don't rush into a SS/DD

I remember the IJN ramming/deck gun mechanic. The IJN had displacement like a DD, thus they could surface directly in front of a DD, that both ram and drop low on 5%, then using 140mm IJN guns Was so humilating to destroy a destroyer with submarine guns, and very entertaining :D Steel ocean made it correct, they had deck guns, silent running and normal torpdos. Everything what a sub player wants!

well, it sounds like they are on the PTS for 0.9.4. though that patch is not online yet, or is it? I didn't saw the change list, it seems to be better than round 3, but still the torpedos act more like modern torpedos, while we dont have silent running and deck guns. Or do we get that as well? Silent running and deck guns are actually pretty important for me ^^

Entweder ist der PTS gemeint, der wird auf der gleichen weise verfügbar sein, wie jede PTS Runde davor auch. Oder es kommt der spezielle Test, der in deinem aktuellen Spieleclient verfügbar sein wird, das wird dann ein spezielleer Modus neben Randoms, Ranked etc.

Ja, schön wärs, die U-Boote sind vom Game Desing eher morderne U-Boote, als 2. Weltkriegs U-Boote, da WG der Meinung ist, dass das langweilig wäre, wenn man es mehr den 2. Weltkrieg anpassen würde Aber immerhin haben sie ien paar Anpassungen gemacht, man kann jetzt wieder an die Oberfläche und ist schneller an der Oberfläche

Looks like they go with the worse test round 3 game design :( I mean that game design is for people, who have no idea bout historically submarines...

Wie gesagt, es ist die Spezialität der Japaner, entsprechende Torpedobewaffnung and den Kreuzern zu haben. Das hat gar nichts mit "bedacht" zu tun.... es ist -> Ein DD schwirrt vor dir her, also kann ich die Torpedos nicht einsetzen. Das ist eine Grundregel, die nur neue oder schlechte Spieler nicht kennen. Es geht hier nicht um eine "coole" Spielmechanik, sondern um Komfort, dass ein Spiel angenehm zu spielen ist, und die Torpedos nicht verwenden zu können, weil permanent ein DD vor dir steht, ist nicht angenehm. Sie sind nur nutzbar, wenn ein DD dich lässt, sonst besteht das Risiko, dass du friendly Fire begehst. Das hat nichts mit Positionierung zu tun, denn der DD wird in den meisten Fällen genug Zeit haben, um noch in deine Torpedos reinzufahren. Daher sind sie nutzbar - ja - aber wegen nur, wenn kein DD mehr in der Nähe ist und darum ging es doch die ganze Zeit.

Is that sarcasm or ignorance? ^^ Because they can stay under water all the time with the last test round (Test 3) But I said earlier, I hope they don't go with the Test 3

Yes, I really want surface with a submarine (though I also want to be able to use the deck gun) But also, that the subs can use torpedos under water. The test round 3 subs are more like modern submarines. They are also faster below waterline

Just hope they don't go with the round 3 variant. I liked the round 2 as base mechanic :-/

That's where the Asashio has an advantage over many other DDs. she can stay far away and still drop torps, while other DDs have to expose themself (Kagero for example). When I play Asashio, I smoke up the cruiser close to me, with the good concealment and a cruiser around, it's quite hard for a CV to find and nuke a DD

I think we should get rid of stock/upgrade models. Only stock, no upgrades anylonger. Then we have more good models for the CVs

Imo the Stuka should be on T6 and T8 the top version, Just different versions with different stats on the Stuka

Same with J5N on Hakuryu. J5N is a Interceptor fighter, which never was on a CV, nor it was a TB or DB. Really no idea, who comes up at WG with such decisions. @Tanatoy could you explain this? If Stukas are "too slow", why going with wrong planes then, which is even more unrealistic, than slow planes? ^^

I guess Smol is a double edge sword, which is op and up at the same time, because the ship is a glass-canon with smoke, which can cause insane dmg, but on the other hand with a bit RNG that ship can be punished very heavily with a one or two shots. I guess those one shots just "balance" the stats, but doesn't make this ship enjoyable to play against. I would say, that the Smol is also a high prior target for many players to get that ship as fast killed as possible.

There is nothing that forces you to leave for ever. You can watch now and then in the forum or play the game, when it's less furstrating for you. Games like this are changing over time and maybe the time comes, where it changes to the better for you

what is your dps to get one bb turret down? Right, you use your main guns to archive 0 dmg to a bb. Beside that, the Repu can angle her turret, so the shells bounce off

When you destroy a turret, then you had to use your main guns to destroy it. But you don't use main guns to destroy the main weapons of the CV. So this comparison doesn't work. Also 1 plane is not holding the armament of a full squad, no idea what you mean with that.

Why would you close your account? Not playing for a while would do the same without losing the account. lso like some people mentioned, you play at the wrong time. At those times people are tired, fall as sleep and MM can't find enough people for a good match up.

The ships I checked in the list are actually called destroyer escort. Guess they just didn't used that term

Googled a list of frigates during snd World War and the list is full of US and RN ships. No german or IJN, guess that's why I never noticed this ship type :D

There were frigates in that time period? I thought there were only sailing frigates before and modern frigates later. Guess they had DDs for sub hunting or sub-chaser boats.