wilkatis_LV

Didn't they say they'll move it over to preferences so it doesn't reset with every single update?

10s are top tier vs 8s almost every t10 match, and even if there are no 8s there still usually are 9s... t10 = sealclubbing confirmed? Some of the stupidest logic I've seen in a while Also I'm pretty sure you're the one here failing to understand what sealclubbing is. It does not mean being top tier. low tiers would be 1-4 5 & 6 already are mid tiers. 5 I could still give you as it can meet 4s, but 6? Yeah, no Well said, @Wilkatis_LV should get his head out of his arse and read that. MM screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/BrwwZJO 10 games, average of 4.4 BBs per match per team, average of 1.31 PFEs on my team (including me), average of 1.11 PFEs on enemy team. Clearly I played only vs PFEs and am talking out of my arse when I say that it's not the ship that has the problem here Sure, now when more people have it @Riselottes right - you'll often see PFE vs PFE. But Ris, this is also exactly why PFE is dropping in WR losing it's #1 spot it had previously - PFE vs PFE is a 50% outcome. It's not losing it because of lacking performance, it's because it's being played so much. Just look at t10 CVs - Midway vs Haku - for another example of this. Over the last 2 months (taking stats from maplesyrup as always) Haku has 10 988 battles vs Midways 36 347 battles. Is Midway really at 51.69% WR, or is that her actual WR massively neutralized by over 25k games of Midway vs Midway = 50%?

Oh look, another boi thinks that tier 6 is sealclubbing. Maybe for you tier 10 is sealclubbing too?

And then you get a salvo where 4 pens do exactly 4 pens worth of dmg. It's just where RNG decided your shells to land and how many of these modules does the target ship have on it. Could have been fixed ages ago if WG could just introduce a "module hit" ribbon or something like that

Reports mean literally nothing, the only on could do anything is the "chat misbehavior" one. Just ignore him

I think you should ge back and re-read what I've written for like 10 times by now Your "problem" is that YOU don't find the ship fun. That's not an issue with the ship. No she's not Stop sniping from max range and suddenly it's quite far from lacking, exactly as I had "predicted" (for a lack of better term) before I even bought it Speed. Accuracy. To some extent mobility as a whole (she can do way tighter turns than I expected). Secondaries. AA (or was I getting lucky with that one? /// will change in January anyway). Armour vs HE. Armour angling capabilities vs AP. Turret firing angles when looking forwards. Concealment. Should I keep going? Oh BBs are defined by far more than that

You mean for the last 2...3 years? AA guns Secondaries & their barbettes Main batteries and their barbettes Fully saturated areas Torpedo bulges (I think it only shows that for AP, for HE you seem to get a shatter icon even if you can pen it) Spaced armour (like on French CAs) Citadel hits give you a citadel ribbon + penetration ribbon since the last patch Just because it feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeels like it doens't mean it's true. You probably just started paying more attention to it, or got screwed over by RNG more than usually.

In case you didn't notice this is the 3rd Ranked Sprint, which works exactly like the 1st 2 did.

And this is highly subjective, thus kind of irrelevant. Personally I find it great fun to watch a DD go from "HAHA I'M RUSHING YOU" to "omg omg omg omg get me out of here!!!" as soon as secondaries open up, or to set 4 new fires on a BB who just dmg-con'd the 1st one within 30s of it. I enjoy the ability to make quick maneuvers (either tnx to speed or tnx to quick turning + dropping of speed) which allow me to throw off torps even at rather close ranges, I enjoy the ability to stay angled while keeping all my guns on target and so on and so on Just because YOU don't find it fun for whatever reason doesn't mean it's not. -Pen is issue only past 14km, I'm getting tired of repeating that. Also even at past 16.5km you can still citadel a broadside Eugen, so is it really an issue? -Reload's not a drawback, it already gets it at 28 instead of 30s -Turret handling is perfectly fine and comfortable, at least with EM on captain. Then I have to ask why wouldn't you pick EM on any BB? Yeah, because ship with average caliber for its tier vs ship with the smallest "BB" guns in the whole game is a great comparison Which both come from its caliber But I thought accuracy was an issue for you? Scharnhorst lacks the sigma and has far worse vertical dispersion due to shell speed (and shell weight?), it's far less accurate than PFE And reload? Yeah, why you have guns so small a cruiser just a tier below you has them you might need a buff to your RoF so you're not utterly useless Yeah, because ship with average caliber for its tier vs a ship with so much overmatch it just needs to touch the target to do dmg is a great comparison Which, again, comes from the guns caliber Finally something reasonable ...and at the same time couldn't hit a barn from the inside due to how massive her V-disp is Except, of course, accuracy, which even by itself is one of the biggest problems BBs face. PFE has far less trouble with it than others do. Also slower shells often means more pens, less overpens as the shells don't manage to run through the ship after arming their fuse

@1MajorKoenig @Tivook Now, 10 games in... Tell me again, where was the problem? Apart from being a t6 in a t8 game, obviously that's a thing for every single t6 ship. Also if PEF's so inaccurate, how am I managing over 31% hitrate?

Probably because I nearly haven't played solo since I joined a clan in spring of 2017. Why would I play with 11 potatoes, if I can get at least 2 competent and reliable allies? Sealclubbing, aye? Lets see... Div (2): You have to go to 12th spot to something that would count as sealclubbing, it has just 18 games and I haven't played that ship since late 2015 / early 2016 Div (3): 1st ship you could count would be Kamikaze at #17 with 18 games played. Next up there's Iron Duke, but I only played that while grinding through it on the day of its release, haven't played since - clearly doesn't count The closest t4 or below is Ishi at #28 with 4 games played. Meanwhile, should I count my t7-10 battles above them? Clear proof of sealclubbing and stetpadding!!!!! Srsly, if you try to accuse me of something at least put enough effort in it for it to make sense It's a t6 ship in t7 game. 80k is more than enough in such a situation, you wouldn't expect a 200k dmg game at those tiers. And yes, 2 out of 3 games it has been fun. The one that wasn't - t8, my 8s collapsing in first couple minutes, literally nothing to do with the ship. Oh, yeah, I did find a thing that sucks. t8 MM. Just like for literally every t6 ship, how "unique" Look at your minimap every once in a while. You'll note that like 2/3 of BBs (if not even more) get closer than "within couple km of max range = max range" only when it's not their choice, a.k.a. due to map borders and enemies being faster than they are Seeing how people complain about AP pen which is issue only after 13...14km range on as whip with max at 17.8.... That's pretty much long range sniping for it

Just did: Literally the 1st time I play the ship. Again, I have to ask - where's the problem? Turret traverse speed is quite comfortable (I have EM, but why wouldn't you?), it lives up to the CBs name in regards of speed in a straight line (29.4kts with speedflag lmao), it loses a lot of speed in turns but this can be used for really quick stops in "emergencies", guns are lovely accurate, my biggest problem with penetration was constantly overpening broadside CLs. And don't even get me started on secondary started fires, that's properly hilarious Srsly, git gud and stop playing PFE from max range, that's all you need to do Oh boi can you fail at maths even more? The only one you know is the 100k game. That leaves 4 with an average of 41445, which may be split into 2 good and 2 trash games, 1 great and 3 trash games, or 4 average games and so on... So please, stay away from maths, baseless assumptions (0 dmg lol) generally don't do well there ^ I just waned to brag about reaching 60% WR in BBs and that seemed to be a funny way to do it

*opens Discord* *takes 1st 2 PEF screenshots shown* *cherrypicking* You mean WR? Anyone can have a day with amazing teams, does not reflect on the ship. For some WR reference he'd need far more games than he has played Meanwhile the dmg clearly shows it doesn't have problems dealing it What it shows - at least when I opened this - was someone with guns ready to fire looking at a NewMexs broadside for like 20...30s without firing, then when he finally fired I noticed he's just spamming HE. Single salvo, unfortunate loading? Then why no switch for the next shot? Yeah, that's a great example of how to play any German BB. If he at least was baiting dmg-control for secondary fires, but since he clearly was in range and they didn't fire - a no once more Somehow I feel that this particular stream isn't there for any level of good gameplay examples, it's more like Jingles style - entertainment (or should I say giveaways in this particular example?) over quality info. And why would I (or you) ever base any opinion upon that?

Bought something for coal recently? If you didn't have enough coal steel would be used to cover the difference at a rate of 1 steel to 10 coal

Accuracy? Nothing wrong with having the "standard", or at least old-standard t6 caliber You don't need torps on every ship, especially a CB / BB Because 28kts at t6 - only matched by Normandie (28) and slightly beaten by Dunkek (29.5) whos big thing is speed - is sooooo slow. Especially with the standard being 25kts and below Yeah, no Stop sniping from max range and they suddenly will work I'll take max range (AFT + SBM2 + Mike Yankee Soxisix) but with base reload & base fire chance (including excluding that same Mike Yankee Soxisix signals 5% bonus from it). Imagine adding that, both fire signals DE and then BFT on top of it Up to 7.56km range at t6 Apparently great forward-firing angles 8x2 105s 25mm pen (so BB base plating of t6 and t7, CA base plating at t8) /// 33mm pen with IFHE (more than t8+ BB base plating) - not that you need this 3.35s reload (17.91 rounds per min per gun) 1.2k alpha (300 dmg per pen) 5% fc vs a t6 ship average 1x fire per 26 hits with 8 gun salvo per broadside at 3.35s that's average of fire per 10s vs a t8 FP built ship (max fire resistance you can meet) average 1x fire per 37 hits with 8 gun salvo per broadside at 3.35s that's average of fire per 15s 14x1 150s 37mm pen (more than t8+ BB plating) 7.5s reload (8 rounds per min per gun) 1.7k alpha (567 dmg per pen) 8% fc vs a t6 ship average 1x fire per 16 hits with 7 gun salvo per broadside at 7.5s that's average of fire per 17s vs a t8 FP built ship (max fire resistance you can meet) average 1x fire per 23 hits with 7 gun salvo per broadside at 7.5s that's average of fire per 25s TL;DR - decent range, ability to pen basically everything you meet, and fires fires fires fires everywhere Also those guns don't need any making up for if you just close the range to sub 14km

6 hours late to the party, but...

Now when that ^ boy's done, lets get to some actual comments Why would I buy a ship that I'm going to get for free? The only reason would be to get all the campaigns with it done faster, but that then would be over holidays when I have more time. And - sure, if I will buy it, I have no problem sharing those results And yes, those numbers actually matter. A lot. I already gave you an example with it penetration capabilities. Try to snipe with PEF and you'll be as effective as someone trying to take down a meter thick concrete wall by throwing paper towels at it. Meanwhile if you play the ship closer to the enemy - so sub 13...14km (concealment of 12.58 even lets you do this while staying relatively safe) - and your AP pen is up for the job, able to pen what needs pening. ^ that's how numbers can show a clear difference in playstyle, one of those choices being clearly wrong, and the other one clearly effective And while I don't have the ship, some of my clanmates do. If you so wish, I can provide you with more screenshots like these 2: If I'm not mistaken it's 10 days, you get 12 for the campaign with t6 silver ships. Something like that From what I remember about the acceleration module was that it mostly helps you to get from 0 to 8 kts (generally the slowest part of the acceleration) with very little impact afterwards. Altho I might be wrong about that

This comment has basically nothing to do with the topic, just answering this because why not: Yamato's my 1st t10, and like 99% of those matches I have in her were played well over a year ago (more like 1.5 ... 2 years ago by this point) when I myself had barely above 50% WR overall. She was still below average for me, but not as far below as she looks now. I just don't play the ship. Next up Conq. Yeah, I have 66% WR in it. Funny how you failed to mention my 66% in Montana, or 62% in Amagi, or any others from the following list: BBs, t5+ and 50+ battles played, sorted by WR Almost as if Yamato was the only one I'm (or rather I was) doing "relatively badly" in Oh, and lastly, that's a 66% WR with 110k av dmg in a Conq which uses AP just like in any other BB. Yeah, you read that right, AP. In fact, if you've seen my previous posts you'd know that like the best Christmas present WG could give me would be the ability to use those same commonly "hated" RN BB sAP rounds on my other BBs. Literally the best AP in the whole game. Example of it can be found here: https://replayswows.com/replay/33433 So I think there's just one question I need to ask - problem? Oh yeah, almost forgot, since yesterday this is a thing aswell: Sooooo yeah, I believe the correct term in a situation like this would be "checkmate"

@MrConway @Crysantos @Sehales Can you tell me what's missing here? Hint: Right now I have 99 ships which qualify for snowflakes. In the start it's easy, just pick one and go. Soon it will be more the case of "which ones I didn't play yet". But then do I really have to go through 99 ships to check if I missed one? And my port's still relatively small compared to some others with 150+, 200+ and even more ships in their ports qualifying for this event. Looking through them all just to check... Yeah, no

False and false Kongo's 40mm behind at 1km, and 5mm behind at 17.8km Konig's 80mm behind at 1km and 40mm behind at 17.8km Also funny how you mention Konig - from what I've seen that ship is a pretty good comparison for gun performance. And let me tell you one thing - if you're sniping with Konig you're doing something very very wrong. I already mentioned that PEFs pen is decent up to 13...14km. So you can apply the RN BB logic here - up to 2/3 of your max range use AP like any other BB would use it, past that swap to HE to compensate for poor penetration. It's not jsut the sigma, it's the amazing vertical dispersion aswell. Just look at US BBs, they run with the same exact combination of accuracy pluses. And I'm pretty sure you wouldn't call US BBs inaccurate, would you? And Fusos accuracy is significantly worse, quite likely to such a degree that PEF over the same time might land the same number of not higher number of shells. And then what about Dunkeks 8x 330s? Same number of guns, same reload, 20mm smaller caliber, far far worse dispersion... Not every ship is for everyone. I'm not buying PEF, but I'm really looking forward to earning it as a freebie

Pen itself isn't too bad up to 13...14km, past that they seem to get kinda miserable. What you probably mean is "this is one of the rare ships at t6 which can't overmatch the 25mm bow". Remember when that was the norm rather than an exception? Good old times... Actually similar to ships with this caliber PEF (350) 27% Fuso (356) 25% NewMex (356) 30% Normandie (340) 26% Seems to be pretty standard Actually quite the opposite, she's rather accurate for a BB. While she still has standard german horizontal dispersion values, she has 2.0 sigma and some seemingly impressive vertical dispersion (I'd say mostly tnx to shell velocity) 45s is manageable, at least it's not the 72 of QE... Again, similar caliber guns: PEF (350) 28s Fuso (356) 28s NewMex (356) 34.2s Normandie (340) 30s Dunkek (330) 28s 28s is either pretty standard, or if you look at NewMex and Normandie - pretty damn good for 350s Comparing AP shell flight time at your max range (17.8km) to similar calibers once more PEF (350) 11.95s Fuso (356) 10.83s (-1.08s) NewMex (356) 10.15s (-1.8s) Normandie (340) 10.74s (-1.21s) Sure, PEF's a bit slower, but the buff it gives to you in acuracy... the flight time is small enough for it to be totally worth it You'd have a point if at least something you said actually held up to some level of truth. Sadly enough, nothing does Edit: Just read above

Only for Stalingrad, Bourgogne and Salem Silver 10s get 100

Yeah, no. Tier 4 premiums get a snowflake, silver ships below tier 5 don't.

Probably because silver ships of tier 5 and higher get snowflakes. Not having one on your Clemson in port should have been a clue for that one

Except that they can. T5 BBs have 19mm base plating, and 24mm of overmatch more than clears it. Also according to your logic only Yamatos guns don't suck at tier 10? Ever heard of "correct amo for the situation"? He's bow on to you and you can't overmatch it? Fire AP into the superstructure and switch to HE, or simply find a better target to shoot at