wilkatis_LV

So I'm not the only one? Interesting This feels like the old FPS issues, just that instead of popping up after multiple games played they now can show up even in your 1st match...

And yet DPM isn't want you're after in a BB, at least as long as it's not something like Scharn / Rep What you generally want is a single devastating hit instead of scratching the enemy every 30-or-so-seconds for X dmg That you should stop sniping from max range and move a little bit closer. Pure magic how that fixes the "problem" Pretty average for the caliber Typically german But thanks to accuracy you still land enough shells to get similar numbers of fires set Lets take a look to EU over the week from 16th to 22nd Dec (maplesyrup ofc). PFE not included as it was released on.... 20th? This leads to To reach those PFEs hitrate would need to be... While it's definitely won't be the best in the tier, going by it's accuracy it's probably going to be quite comfortably in the middle. And again, every new ship not being the best at everything isn't bad (also note how per min it needs less hits because of that sub-30s reload) No, it leads to higher THEORETICAL reload. With identical H.disp. (or worse if you run accuracy in PFEs 3rd lost), 0.5 less sigma (unlike the typical 0.1 changes 0.5 difference will be properly noticeable) and [probably] rather comparable V.disp. NewMex simply won't land enough shells to make any difference noticeable And yet PFE's more accurate, thus both will probably land a similar amount of shells on target over the same time I think this is where the "git gud" part of amo & target selection comes in You can, no "try" needed. And sure, they can still shoot my bow for a bunch of overpens, I don't mind. It still works vs cruisers, and when it comes to BBs - either it's not your job, or aim for the superstructure / upper hull as they are thin enough Because having t7 guns at t6 is such a good comparison to having the "old-standard" t6 guns, aye? Then why are you complaining it's not more accurate than Warspite - the most accurate t6 BB if I'm not mistaken? Also funny how PFEs 8 guns x 28s is a problem for you, meanwhile you use Warspites 8 guns x 30s as an example of an accurate ship Which it is, as long as you aren't a potato sniping from the max range. Really? Oh wow, it's almost as if this is another case of you not having the slightest clue what you're talking about Mutsu mostly benefits from her gun caliber. And citadelling higher-tier US [silver] BBs isn't exactly an accomplishment, even after their citadel was lowered Hit hard assuming you get in range. Lets take a look at Warspite - 16.3km with 23.5kts speed. Good luck at it as 5 of 10 t8 cruisers (6 of 12 with both "testing" cruisers included) outrange you, the others nearly match you falling behind by... half a kilometer? Yeah, that will surely help you And that's not even looking at BBs smacking you from any angle Yeah, the mis-oneshot who was an easy target to 4s when 6s still met those will do soooo good in t8 battles I haven't seen any other ship in this whole game being onehit as much as Nurnberg regardless of her MM, she really doesn't do any tiering well. Also apparently I should complement you on the DD edit Only when you are "smart" enough to compare it to crusiers and DDs. She's super accurate for a BB, especially for her tier ^ this describes literally every single BB in the whole game

Launch the game without any mods (either uninstall mods or launch it in safe mode). Almost guaranteed to fix it

Just because it was 18s for you doesn't mean it was 18s for everyone. Only one ship participating in the game needs to pass the queue time for the whole match to be changed. And as always - a CV was sitting in queue for more than 5 min (seeing how early in the morning you say it was could easily be even more than 10...20 min lol), and as soon as 2nd CV entered the queue MM just made whatever match it could.

With more ships going A those same useless BBs get a bit more use out of them. So I guess... sort of

Going by the white line below images, do you use Polaroid for screenshots? Also did I miss something or is this really a thread complaining about t7 MM, a tier which is probably the 2nd highest top-tier rate only behind the 100% of t1 and t10? Play more careful, less agressive, more defensive. Hug islands more, shoot in open water less. Don't engage every enemy you see, go for the ones where you can make the situation advantageous. Keep close to your "big boys". Be the support instead of the carry. 5s, 6s and 7s aren't really supposed to do much in +2 MM, they won't be the ones carrying. Differences between those ships are too large. (and yes, I know they still can do it - sometimes - as well as that there are some ships - like GC - which are perfectly comfortable in +2 MM. But those are exceptions not the general rule)

Nothing to do with the guns. You are just hitting modules / spaced armour / so on Replay or didn't happen. Or rather, it simply didn't happen. And unless you have played 30 games in the last 6 hours - yes you do have the replay of that game where we could see it not happening.

Yes you can, but it will only extend the max duration by another 6 months. You won't get to do it again

Yeah, if you had PA before the patch hit you got gifted WPA on top of it. Only the highest bonus is given to you tho, not both

I see 2 ways to go - standard tank build to reduce fires (the biggest threat to your health), in this case in slot 3 you'd take accuracy mod to make your dispersion even better Captain - I'd go with this: http://shipcomrade.com/captcalc/0100000001100000100001000100000119 Alternatively you can go typical german secondary build, as those secondaries are more than good enough for it. This would mean secondary upgrade in 3rd slot Captain - preferably take concealment instead of manual secondaries as t6 just don't benefit enough from it, can pick IFHE but you don't really need it. DE could help with even more fires, as if your secondaries already didn't start enough of them. Stuff like that The only german captain I had was my Bismarcks 15-pointer, so I personally am running that 2nd - secondary - option

After you failed to understand what's a small & large component of an ellipse And again, there's far more to V.disp. than just shell speed. Go re-watch these: No it doesn't. -Typical H.disp. -Atypical sigma for the tier (t6s normally get 1.5 to 1.8, only QE sisters match PFE at 2.0) -Atypical V.disp. being rather "tight" So? I already asked why would every new ship be straight up better than every old one? Funny how you didn't answer that Except that those shells are only lackluster if you're attempting to snipe at BBs at ranges past 14km, and even then only while hitting their main belt

Well, this won't be a popular opinion as I seem to be almost the only one seeing it this way but... AA you already mentioned, but everything AA related is about to change in January No need for a dedicated captain, I can use whatever fits best. This lets me to use Jack Dunkirk with its improved abilities while keeping it on Conq aswell. No suck luck on KGV Reload difference to me is irrelevant, I prefer waiting longer for a good shot rather than getting ineffective salvos off on cooldown. Same reason for why I generally don't use AR, at least not on BBs Hydro lets you to play far more aggressive than you could with KGV, thus you may be able to get more worth out of your concealment Lack of a Spotter does hurt when firing against smoked up ships, range of 18km is already enough for the tier so you absolutely don't need it for that You still have that same amazing RN BB sAP. I have no idea why people hate it, I'd be crying from happiness if more of my BBs could use it Your AP pen angles are slightly improved -> less bounces is always a good thing DDs as well as lack of overmatch aren't a particularly big problem thanks to the rather good HE (altho Nagato / Ashitaka still have it better, mind you) I know I haven't played DoY particularly much, at least not in games that are tracked, but I as one of those rare players who love to use RN BB sAP I absolutely adore DoY.

Not quite sure what you mean. I've played a few times on the rew-Oki now, and I quite liked it. A's not a pointless trap, B actually has some cover, and C is still the wide open flank (which isn't a bad thing) A really nice change from all the nearly identical maps like Islands of Aids or Land of Fire which just have islands pointlessly spammed everywhere.

Very rare drop, and only available for t10 games (that's t10 MM not everyone in the match being t10) Recently had the misfortune of rolling it 3x in a row with a t8 cruiser... Miserable experience

No, the arrow points directly towards your ship (to be more precise - directly towards the gun from which the shell comes) Center point is where you are aiming at. Minor (short arm) = H.disp. Major (long arm) = V.disp. Everything inside that ellipse is where your shells can land

For the extra special geniuses here who can't figure out that when X axis is mentioned as vertical the ship would be off to a side not below the ellipse

Explains the teams I was getting, literally ragequit after 4, even tho I wanted to d it already after 2nd

Yeah, clearly you did: Oh w8, no you didn't. Small component (H.disp) = Minor axis Large component (V.disp) = Major axis Really that hard to understand? Also V.disp. is determined by far more than just shell velocity. That would be just 1 of its components - and yet how V.disp. is created is completely irrelevant to this discussion. And about what's the "single most important factor of accuracy" is - whatever you pick it's not going to be H.disp., at least not alone. Just look at IJN BBs - so tight H.disp. that often the broadside BB / CA you're shooting at is longer than your max disp., and yet you can still manage to land absolutely nothing due to how massively elongated the ellipse is due to your V. values. Or look at DBs ellipses - how tight both H. and V. are, and yet how easy it is to miss all your bombs due to pathetic sigma. Any single value is completely irrelevant if it doesn't have a solid backup from others. And yet from same number of shells fired PEF would land far more than for example Fuso would, which seems to be your go-to example with 4 more barrels and same reload. That's exactly what is meant by accuracy.

-Same horizontal, which is the SMALL component of the ellipse -Much much better vertical, which is the LARGE component of the ellipse -Higher sigma which means more shells tending closer towards the middle of your aimpoint rather than going to off to the edges Yes, PFE is accurate for a BB And just to put the German BB dispersion into some perspective for you: KM / MN: R * 9.8 + 60 US / RN / VMF: R * 10 + 66 IJN: R * 7.2 + 84 Warspite (also Hood & Vanguard) R * 10.3 + 51 Oh look, PFE has the same H disp as Normandie and Dunkek! And when we compare it to US t6s or QE, the difference is 6 - 0.2R, so at max range of 17.8km you are whole 2.44 meters worse than they are! Oh my god it's unbearably inaccurate!!!!!!!!!! Lets look at Warspite as she gets her accuracy improved - difference is 15 - 0.5R, so at max range of 17.8km thats... 6.1 meters!!! oh god, BUFF PLEASE, THIS IS INSANE DIFFERENCE!!!!!!! The only one ahead are IJN - but that's the case at every single tier as it's their whole thing. And Fusos 0.5 less sigma + the V disp it gets more than make up for all the difference you need Oh, almost forgot. Guess what PFE gets in 3rd upgrade slot, that the US BBs don't? That's right, the -7% dispersion upgrade! So you can make your really good dispersion even god damn better. Whoa, what a magical surprise! So PLEASE, for the sake of everyone, just stop talking about something you have no clue about. just makes you look more and more foolish with every time. Same sigma, nearly identical H dispersion, not sure which one gets the better V disp. Also so what? Every new premium has to be better than every single ship released before? Yeah, that would go well, wouldn't it? It's a stretch to call any BB accurate if you compare it to crusiers or DDs. But when you compare them to other BBs - PFE's rather accurate.

But you yourself said that it was sealclubbing because they as top tier 6s were killing the bottom tier 5s. 10s killing 8s is exactly the same.

For DDs base (given in wiki) times 0.7857 is what you are looking for Don't have a table, might make one later if I feel particularly bored

@EvilTaxman Any mods installed? If yes - no need to restart your whole PC, just shut the game through Task Manager and launch it back up in Safe Mode If you don't have the signal - it's already shown. If you do have them - mouse over them too see

Just because you have finished a grind doesn't mean you can't play the ship anymore. The game doesn't "stop" anywhere

Ftfy

Name me t6 ship which isn't useless against 8s. Please do Tier 8 is the only tier which stands a good chance in a +2 MM as there are barely any changes in armour and guns between 8 and 10, which can not be said between any other pair of X & X+2 Far from it. Just use your concealment and speed to get into better positions. When it comes to shooting cruisers even the ones with heavier (27mm) armour like Eugen are no problem even at long range (for you) if they're broadside, and if they are angled you should just find a better target to go for. In randoms practically always someone will be giving you a broadside When it comes to t8 BBs - you in a t6 BB aren't exactly supposed to be the big counter to them. And if you get their broadside at like 13...14km you can still do decent dmg. Also enjoy the fact that your armour actually can bounce them quite a lot in return That's called a BB. Nothing new Then move closer. Sub 14km it has more enough pen, and your concealment lets you to get into this range without being seen I thought switching amo correctly for the situation was supposed to be the good thing to do? Please. 7.5km range at t6 is great, and then all the pen (+ dmg from those pens) you get even without IFHE together with the ridiculous fire chances setting fire after fire after fire... Sure, you're no Bismarck, but for t6 those secondaries are lethal ...perfectly fine. It's a BB not a cruiser, it has BB guns. Already showed above that the FC is pretty average for the caliber Neither of which is needed Yeah, 350s are cruiser guns when the BBs of that same tier have 330s, 340s, 356s... Clearly Yeah, with her 34 second reload And Fuso is anemically inaccurate, so it's not like Fuso will land more shells out of his 12 than you out of your 8 Which is an issue all t6 BBs with guns smaller than 358mm face. There's 6 of those btw, PFEs far from being a new one. Also ever heard of angling to take hits on your belt instead of your bow? That tends to be pretty standard idea for BBs t7 and below You DONT BOW TANK in any t7 and below BB. You just don't. They [nearly] always overmatch each otehrs bow, this isn't a Montana vs NC where that won't happen. You angle your SIDE not your bow I'm amazed such a simple concept slips so many peoples minds Probably because thy are 5s and 6s and you NEVER BOW TANK IN THEM. If you try playing your 6 like you play your 10s of course you will fail massively, what a "surprise"