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  1. TopliCar

    Longest gun hit on an enemy warship

    nice topic +1 od mene !
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    List of Soviet CV's (projects)

    nice info man! thx project 71 has japanese style funnels at his side
  3. I've read a lot of books about naval warfare and never saw that nickname Jacky, so i browsed for a picture and found that somewhere. You never stop learning. I only wish that more people get interested in pre WW II ships because that's how it all started
  4. Falathi, on 23 September 2013 - 02:49 PM, said: Just few points here: not only did the Russo-Japanese war show necessity to be able to direct fire at much greater distances, the same was even more true for the American-Spanish war: in few naval engagement of this war, amount of hits scored by main guns of US battleships was negligible. The guns did not lack range, nor their shells were too weak to penetrate enemy armour. However it turned out that it`s next to impossible to accurately fire with both primary and secondary batteries at the same target in the same time. Another thing: HMS Dreadnought had improved propulsion as well and this was indeed thanks to Fisher, who correctly assumed that fleet of faster battleships can dictate the rules of engagement in future battles and achieve supremacy. It`s totally true BTW that Dreadnought eclipsed all previous designs overnight. i absolutely agree with you, i could write whole essay but it wouldn't be interesting ( too much text :angry: ) Fisher did a great job, and he is credited as a father of dreadnought ships. This is interesting for everyone who is fond of pre WW I ships - extreme transformation - from historycal aspect - in such a little time
  5. Based on the experiences from the Russo Japanese War which showed that naval battles definetely turned into high distance canon duels, every navy started to prepare for new naval war, which will be fought at long distances with very strong canons. Basing on those principles of understanding modern naval battles, just before the war, navies consisted of next types of ships: a) Dreadnought - every navys core - these were battleships from 17 000 to 23 000 tonnes, with very strong armor and long range artillery that consisted of 10-12 guns, at the beggining 305 mm, later 356, and even 381 mm - their speed was average, ranging from 20 to 22 knots - when war began, even bigger dreadnoughts were built - up to 30 000 tonnes with speed of 25 knots Dreadnought turret Dreadnought turret 2 b) Battle cruisers - this was completely new type of ship - these were built according to admiral Fishers idea - 25 000 to 32 000 tonnes ( in the war era even up to 44 000 t - like Hood ) - these units had less guns than dreadnoughts, thinner armor but greater speed - ranging from 28 to 31 knots - battle cruisers were used for the hardest missions in naval combats, and in special assignements Britains first battle cruiser - Invincible class c) Light cruisers - light cruiser of the new type were fairly bigger than before - from 4 000 to 5 500 tonnes, and later even up to 7 500 t, with guns caliber ranging from 120 to 152mm (in some cases 105mm) - speed ranging from 27 to 29 knots - they were useful for scouting, assisting torpedo flotillas etc. SMS Bremen - German light cruiser d) Destroyers - tonnage was fairly upgraded - ranging from 800 to 1 300 tonnes, with speed from 30-35 knots -which was fastest category of ships for torpedo attacks and for protecting fleet from torpedoes - armament consisted of several 100 mm guns and 6 to 9 torpedo launchers - destroyers were most produced units because they were suitable for variety of tasks HMS Crusader - a Tribal class destroyer e) Submarines - just before the war submarines developed into the new weapon - with the displacement of 200 - 800 tonnes, speed at surface ranging from 12 - 15 knots, submersed 7- 10 knots - submarines were equipped with hybrid drive ( something similar to Prius :teethhappy: ) mostly diesel - electric hybrid - main armament 2- 4 and later even 6 torpedo tubes - some were equipped with devices for underwater minelaying With these new types of ships, which were now main force of every one of the worlds biggest navies, remained in use the old types of ships - some of them fairly new, but they had to change their purpuose, because they could not compete with several times stronger new types Armored cruisers lost their importance, and they were not included in the fleets, destroyers from the time of Russo Japanese War ( 400 - 500 tonnes) were assigned to coastal guard services or as an escort for convoys, production of torpedo boat destroyers continued, but only for use in coastal waters and for patrol services.
  6. Suddenly, every of the worlds biggest navies started building their own dreadnoughts. SMS Szent Istvan - Tegetthoff class dreadnought Great Britain wanted to remain worlds biggest naval force and used all of her means to remain that, and Germany prepared for conquering new territories. On the head of German navy stood Alfred von Tripitz - he managed to create not only big fleet, but fleet with extremely quality ships. Alfred von Tripitz British navy was led by John Fisher - who not only successfully preserved British navy's guiding that her majesty's navy has to be at least numerous as worlds second and third navy combined, but he developed new types of ships - yet never seen. His team of experts produced a new type of cruiser very similar to Dreadnought with a high speed achieved at the expense of armour protection. This became the battlecruiser, the first being HMS Invincible. John Fisher aka "Jacky"
  7. The great transformation of war fleets began in 1906. when the Great Britain constructed battleship Dreadnought, ship with the complete new concept after which the dreadnought type of ships was named. Special characteristic of those ships, except from stronger construction and armour, was very strong artillery - main guns were placed in double turrets, well armoured, which were able to rotate for almost 360 degrees - that gave guns the ability to fire in almost every direction. Dreadnoughts were so superior that all other battleships, even the newest one, became second class units overnight !
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    Chapayev class Soviet cruiser

    this was a good class! nice info !
  9. TopliCar

    German Navy: Brandtaucher

    Fire_Spitter, on 02 September 2013 - 01:35 PM, said: It has such a strange design for a submarine but I guess it was like tanks the first models where made using the mechanical equipment from other devices so they cared about reaching requirements not design of the ship try to google for Argonaut Jr. :teethhappy:
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    German Navy: Brandtaucher

    " They floated to the surface in large bubbles of air escaping the submarine. " - that is called luck !
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    German magnetic mines

    thx for support guys :bajan: :veryhappy:
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    French Submarine Surcouf

    very beautiful boat, in naval terms - according to many experts, those submersible cruisers were pretty much useless but they are great success of engineering. nice post Smederevac. plus 2 od mene ! :glasses:
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    German magnetic mines

    thank you guys ! it is nice to see your support :-)
  14. The German command realised that their U-boot fleet forces are to week to severely disrupt British maritime transport, on the other hand, it was clear that in short time the production of submarines cannot be increased, so it was crucial for Germany to find another tool to make it so. Germans were rapidly working on finding new weapons, and that began even before the start of the war - the intention was to surprise an opponent who would be unprepared to fight that weapon. - moored magnetic mine - laid by submarine The idea was not new and has been known from the 1918th, yet in 1930th a group of experts started working on this problem. The Kiel Institute for maritime barrage worked in complete secrecy, and under the command of maritime engineer Karl Kruger and famous physics prof. Adolf Bestelmeyer (who created the heart of the mine - magnetic exploder) the mine was finished. Bottom laying mine - known as the Schildköte - turtle mine This type of mines can only be used in shallow waters - the depth can't be over 40 m, and it suited German needs because waters around England are shallow - mostly about 20 m. Finally, on the 8th November 1939 minelaying began - mines were laid around Dover isthmus (neck). Everything was mysterious - German twin engine planes were casting mines at low altitude - it looked like they were scouting, and Kriegsmarine's destroyers, under the cover of darkness, were laying mines near the coast. Mines were laid from Scapa Flow to Dung eness. http://www.cyber-her...aways/germ1.jpg In the first days 1 Italian, 1 French and 4 British merchant ships were sunk. Right by the shore, in front of coastal batteries, several navy ships were sunk- destroyer Gipsy and patrol boat Mastiff ( 21th november 1939) and new cruiser Belfast was severely damaged - along with two old destroyers and 1 big minelayer. In the short time 33 ships were sunk ( total 82000 t ) HMS Gipsy - half submerged - sunk by mine This continued until Brits found one mine, dropped by German planes, in the shallow near the Shoeburyness - lieutenant commander bravely disarmed the mine and the secret was revealed. Now it was possible to create effective defense against magnetic mines - minesweepers were equipped with strong MF devices, dragging them behind, and safely destroying mines. Merchant and navy ships were degaussed by wrapping cables around ship's hull. Later, Germans created mines with combined exploders - acoustic, magnetic and water pressure, making mines resistant to minesweepers, but those didnt have big influence on the course of war.
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