lovelacebeer

It’s not exactly surprising is it, other than lots of hot air being spent by the community there hasn’t been any real reaction. The only reason WG would have to take the community outrage seriously was if people actually changed their paying and playing Habits. So unless either on mass people boycotted playing at all (or maybe if suddenly the vast majority only played scenarios) or people on mass stopped buying ANY loot boxes, premium ships or premium time, only then would WG take any notice. The sad reality is WG know the majority of players lack the will to do either of those things so WG know they have already won.

Agreed it is sad, the game could be so much more if only WG put the effort into things that would be fun. I think they see subs a bit like the CV rework: just shove it live and figure it out, because whilst the community will complain and report the people playing them, but WG know we will submit to their will and keep playing.

This is exactly why they got put in ranked they know the resources are a pull and they don’t have to offer any extra incentive to force people to engage with subs. However sadly there was no way the community as a whole had the strength of will to boycott ranked this season so subs will be declared a massive success.

I have to admit I had low expectations and I was not disappointed. The only mildly interesting thing said (and even that was an obvious WG logic moment) if people are willing to play in modes with subs that means the community likes and accepts them. It was amusing though how aggressive the moderation had to be whilst I concede some people were over doing the rage most just seemed to be asking difficult questions.

You know full well why it’s thanks to submarines we only get even tiers. So don’t play ranked if your not enjoying it and at the very least consider not buying anything from WG given their current obsession with forcing players to participate in these poorly developed projects.

I’m surprised to see someone say they find ranked more relaxed and pleasurable than randoms. I have always found it the other way around in part because of the number of AFK players I get in ranked, but in general I see so much more crying and whinging in ranked I just get tired of it. This time around though a lot of the negativity I have seen others express about ranked both here and in my clans discord is purely due to submarines.

The problem is subs are just utterly beyond WGs ability to implement that should be evident given after so many trials they are still this bad. If they were even remotely serious about making subs actually work they would need to completely rework random battles but they are lazy so are just trying to shoehorn subs in

I will quit, whilst I love dedicated submarine games, WG have been their typical lazy self and really made a travesty of a half baked idea and created a god awful mess. Subs as they stand now take all the fun out of the game.

One small thing the sound made when the transports are detected can get a bit distracting especially as it’s not really explained what the sound is.

Pretty much, I am loving playing Silent Hunter 3 still, sub gameplay is wonderful in a game that is designed with submarines in mind.

Wrong empire sadly

I have quite enjoyed the convoy mode it rewards and suits players who like to be aggressive. It would also be ideal for subs but at least it can be great fun for battleships, cruisers and destroyers.

I like the shift towards the unique rewards being earned through personal progress, so you at least can be a bit more independent a to which team you choose.

I actually rather like this mode it’s pretty fast paced and somewhat encourages people to be more aggressive. It certainly does does require larger maps and I think they use of the operations maps is a good idea with all the little island cover it pulls people in closer. I had expected the attacking team to have the much easier ride and to a certain extent it is easier but not a walkover, your pushing into the enemy so torps are easier to dodge and adding the smoke to the transports is a good move. I certainly look forward to this mode on live server.

At the rate things are going I’m expecting WG to come out and say they have a spreadsheet that proves more CVs = more fun.

Well let’s be honest for all the complaining nothing has changed for WG, they are still flooded with people willing to buy loot boxes and the vast majority of people have probably not even noticed there was any kind of outcry.

You can test new modes but not new ships they leave for people like super testers. It’s a bit weird when doing say missions for early release ships but don’t get them but you will get used to it. Sometimes the mode testing is fun I loved Allies vs Axis for example and sadly it didn’t come to the live server so sometimes PTS can be more fun

I know I have mentioned this on other threads but for completeness sake, in the UK parliament is currently drafting a white paper on the very issue of loot boxes so any Brits here you should absolutely write to your MP now.

As much as I hate the whole submarine project for how badly this has been done, it does seem very strange that we should have intelligence data on the enemy subs dive capacity.

Sounds fun for the submarine and that’s whom WG care about.

It depends on how each country defines gambling within its own legal system. In the UK loot boxes do not count as gambling as defined by the rules governing the gambling commission, because what ever you “win” cannot be exchanged for anything of value outside the game. For what it’s worth though the British government are currently writing a white paper in relation to loot boxes because the gambling commission have repeatedly asked legislation on the issue of loot boxes.

Although I absolutely loath the way WG are doing things lately I do agree it’s not the fault of the guys on camera, still will make for interesting viewing this afternoon.

I have already told my clan mates I won’t bother with CB this time it’s just too annoying to bother playing with 2 CVs. Admittedly I hardly play ranked but with how truly appalling the sub project is I won’t even bother trying. The problem is WG want us to play the game a certain way and if we don’t like their way they don’t care. So easy solution for me is I won’t play.

Although my clan are apparently playing I’m very happy to be sitting it out cannot think of anything less fun than double CVs in clan battles - oh wait subs and CVs (soon sadly).

I would love it if they made the score timer a built in feature of the game it would be so convenient.