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Oderisson replied to FM6a's topic in Rozgrywka
Dlaczego od razu każdy zakłada ze youtuber wygra? Najwięcej nowych graczy pewnie przyciąga steam, a tam jest już forum osobne. Dodatkowo Flamu, czy Notser to postacie raczej dla już zaangażowanych graczy a nowych niespecjalnie przyciągają, no chyba że przypadkiem. A kto z juz posiadających konto założy nowe tylko po to żeby jakiemuś jutuberowi nabić staty? Przypominam że trzeba wbić 5 level. Ja już bardziej spodziewam się wysypu botów na tierach od 1-4 (bo konto zniknie z rozgrywki z odblokowaniem tieru V). Ale trzeba przyznać pomysł kretyński... Program polecania graczy już jest, po co z tego robić konkurs, cholera wie... -
Jak dla mnie nie bardzo. W zamian za hydro okręt oddaje: 1xheal, samolot, 15%dmg. Nie kalkuluje mi się to.
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Oderisson replied to FM6a's topic in Rozgrywka
Wygląda... francusko... nawet spoko portret. -
Bitwy Rankingowe - Sezon 8 - Dyskusja generalna.
Oderisson replied to WG_Lumberjack's topic in Archiwum
Ja jak narazie to wyniki mam w Rankedzie tragiczne. Nie wiem czemu ale zawsze losuje mi teamy z których nikt nie wie co sie dzieje. Bismarcki chowające się za wyspami, lub płynące chyba do innej mapy... Gdyby zasady przyznawania gwiazdek się zmieniły to bym skorzystał, bo w 90% przypadków przegrywam jako lider temu. Tak utknąłem z Winrate coś 20%... Nic, może przyszły sezon będzie lepszy, ja wracam na randoma XD -
Nie przesadzaj... W moim przypadku zrobienie 7 gwiazdek (wiem ze trzeba sześć, nie zgrało mi się, zajęło 6 godzin). Ostatniej misji nie wykonałem wcale. też na początku byłem sceptyczny ale poszło jak z płatka. 2xpierwsza, 1xdruga, 2xtrzecia. Siedem gwiazdek. Dzisiaj finalne i spokoj.
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Mission1 "11 torps from british cruiser or dd over any amount of battles". There you go. Cruisers. I stand corrected. Now we will have minotaurs firing 10 torp broadsides from smoke. Playerbase: "MM because of Level 4 is unplayable. Balance is out of window. One class is everywhere. It cannot be worse." WG: "Hold my beer."
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The problem here is that rest of the mission is class heavy. There are no missions for battleships in level 5. In level 4 it was easy to get dreadnought in cruisers (actually got mine in emerald last week), or high caliber. Level 5 is simply "f*ck battleships". I believe that all levels should have missions for all classes. Either way I am not getting my tier X-VIII BBs on the field in the next 10 days because every shima, etc there is will be dropping torps left and right to score some hits. This week MM is clogged with BBs. From tommorow it wil be DDs. I dont think we need any more proof of bad mission design.
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I hope the issue is that 75k is way too much for a submission and will be changed to lets say 35k...
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Great. Level 4 is bb heavy, level 5 is DD heavy. And then they wonder why is there 200+ BBs in the quee.
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Musashi will cost 92... nope! 750k freePex !
Oderisson replied to PseudoMi's topic in General Discussion
Apparently musashi will have worse credit income than missouri. This and increased price of musashi... Sounds like WG know that they did something wrong and take out missouri before it makes more damage to credit economy. -
When I read this at first I thought that was a joke...
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People [edited] about detonations but they were part of ships life. Jutland for example. Also lets not forget that everybody suffered from them from different reasons. Hood - ap shell, Mutsu - bad ammo, Arizona - AP bomb. All those killed these ships. One simply cannot have a good ship game without detonations. WOT has detonations too.
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I am sorry I dont get something here or You had video muted or something... Didnt You see the tests? SEVEN salvos in one case, TEN in other, from biggest guns in the game from point blank range. Reload is 30 seconds for yamato. Thats 3,5 to 5 minutes respectively to a non responsive ship which doesnt heal. Trust me it would be funnier if he had used Moskva. That thing has 51mm of deck armor so no overmatch, superstructure 1mm thinner than a battleship, and a lot faster firing guns. It is better armored than a conqueror. I think it also has additional armor on the nose to prevent overmatch pens from the front. Recently I have tried to duke Moskva out in my Yamato (one on one, no distractions, I had 20k HP more): He is bow on (reversing), I am bow on (1/2 forward). He loads HE (probably with IFHE), I load AP for 3 salvos (get about 10 bounces, 0 pens), later switch to HE. Guess which one of us died and which one sailed away while other one burned to death?
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You have already stated that you dont watch other. While i find it amusing, it doesnt help the discusion. As for if cruisers can or cant take dmg i have a funny little vid. I would suggest you take 8 mins to take a look either way.
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I main in BBs. I have played about 3,5 k battles so i did get some good teamwork in some of them. Not saying a lot... But some were pleasurable. A DD in front of me, a cruiser slightly in front to the right, a cruser to the left, a second lower tier BB trailing me below 1km. Usually those games end well. We break trough and win. Want to know what is my experience most of the time? DDs in the back or swarming all one cap, half of the cruisers rushing in front smoking up realising they were the ones spoting and then sitting like idiots in smoke screens without targets, other half trying to set fire to enemy battleships, instead of DDs, because they are hard to hit, and dmg done is everything. And battleships either get their crap together get into formation and sail slowly to one side of the map as a team to turn and go middle next or they start manuvering colliding with each other and do nothing. Enemy team usually has the same level of coordination. I have tried to lead charge many times as bb... My main cause of death was not artillery but torps, and fire. Because even if i managed to get someone to follow me, the moment they noticed i was being focused there was 180 degree turn and running away. All of them: BBs CAs and DDs alike. So complaining in forums for BB behaviour is pointles, because its not their fault. They are doing what they can in situation they got into.Thats why you see 3 tier X BBs camping. Your team either click or it doesnt. Thats why we get those games when one team loses only 3 ships and other all 15. Take a while and look at streamed games from top wows steramers like flamu, or notser. Watch them play their bbs, but take a look at their team. They are getting good results but most of the time they arent solo tanking, nor they are at the spearhead of formation. When they are having a good game they are in the middle of formation, doing what is their job in this 15 player machine called a team.
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CVs require a lot of skill and practice. They are hard to master but when you do they are rewarding. You are at the painful part of the proces.
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For the love of god... Another topic... Guys we all respect your right to opinion, despite the fact that most people who start those threads dont play BBs, but think for a moment... You are complaining about tier X players. People who probably seen some gamelay in the class of the ship that they have chosen as their main, than You. If they dont see profit to charging ahead and dying while they are abandoned by the rest of the team ten thats probably way this has to be. Usually majority of players is right. Everybody wants a meat shield, just noone wants to be one. If they dont want to die to a massive spam than its probably: -not fun -pointless, since rest of team doesnt follow -non profitable I have seen a lot of great cooperation between players, but they always includeed all classes of ships mostly in that order: DDs in front for spoting, cruisers after them, and BBs in close pursuit of cruisers to present more attractive targets than them. All fighting as one formation. But its very difficult to get that kind of cooperation in a team. Usually destroyers hold back waiting to torp other BBs, cruisers want BBs to be 5 km in front of them, despite that properly angled they can take respectable amount of punishment on higher tiers (they have heal), and BBs just hold in the back because if nobody is moving their [edited]why should they? Yes there is that thing called bow tanking. But if bow tanking BB is in front it gets burned. Or torped. Or bombed. And if it shows its side to retreat it loses half HP. And I am still waiting for a BB that can outrun a torpedo sailing backwards. Wow, this turned out long... Point is BBs are huge, slow targets with a lot of potential that require proper positioning and team cooperation to shine. Alone they are just frags.
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It was removed but not because smoke would have had effect on it but to prevent people from requesting refunds. To understand this one has to think :"When ship sells the most?" Of course in the beginning. When you nerf it and leave in it store people may want to ask the refund to force back changes. If it doesnt work they may get it back either way. One thing a company cant afford are those refunds, because its a hit to the money they have recieved. It creates a lot of accounting problems and questions. Think about iChase. But when you discontinue it you make it an elite ship. What it loses in capability it gains in being unique on the battlefield. People will hold to it just to see if it bothers them much. Thats why they anounced it in advance. I can guess that news about being permamently removed from the stores sold a few more which counts as a bonus. Smoke nerf didnt change much but created a lot of controversy and empty opinions. And the best way to fight them is create commotion. Thats why they removed it from the stores. I bet it didnt sell too well too. Thats why it ended with 50% discount earlier this year.
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Oderisson replied to FM6a's topic in Rozgrywka
Wiesz, sory wielkie ale próbowali wprowadzić pancernik bez heala w momencie gdy wszyscy psioczą że każdy pancerniki stronią od bitwy. Niby można ale po co? Taki pancernik będzie unikał walki, czyli strzelał na dystans, gdzie jego celność będzie "meh". W takim wypadku wybrałbym krążownik bo lepsza celność i szybkostrzelność. A to byłby okręt który de facto do niczego się nie nadaje dla przeciętnego gracza. A skoro trzyma sie na dystans to po kiego mu hydro i aa? Gdzie jest jego miejsce w formacji? Z przodu bo ma hydro, ale na przód sie nie nadaje bo nie ma heala. I to wlasnie zrobili. Dali mu heala. Nawet głupi Spee go ma. W starej wersji York był przerosnietym krążownikiem, o zbyt dużym "ciałku" i niedostatecznej celności. -
I would also like to enter: 1) Roma if available, if not Sharnhorst 2) Mutsu 3) Doubloons 4) Doubloons 5) Doubloons 6) Doubloons 7) Doubloons 8) Tachi Nice idea BTW
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Oderisson replied to FM6a's topic in Rozgrywka
Co do tracerow to wlasciciel moze wylaczyc. Ja wylaczylem. A co do dziwnych camo zerknij w prawym dolnym rogu w porcie (nad statkami). Moze byc. -
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Oderisson replied to FM6a's topic in Rozgrywka
Wow. Albo wiesz o co chodzi albo trafiłeś w sam środek tarczy przypadkiem. XD. KC to KANCOLLE. Wygogluj. Usmiejesz się. Generalnie od tego sie WOWS powinien się trzymać z daleka. Bo realiów to w tym za grosz. -
You can look at whatever you want sunshine, because your opinion on what BBs can or cant do doesnt matter. I dont bother with asking pointles questions and already looked at your stats. 0 tier X BBs and 3 tier X DDs. Quite obvious on which side you are on from the start. And yes, DD can take more fire than a battleship, mostly due to fact that at max range its nearly impossible to hit it. You probably know that since you own Kaba.
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Some people dont understand that this isnt world of tanks. There is no such thing as tanking in this game... BBs arent heavy tanks, that have huge frontal armor, you cant put them in position in which they will bounce every shell fired at them. Most battleships have light armored bow and superstructure, that will get pened by he. You cant tank HE, you cant tank torps, you cant tank planes, because the only thing you can mitigate is AP dmg when you position yourself bow on. Thats it. Other type of dmg will melt you either way. All BBs would need to have conquerors unnerfed heal to let them "tank". Some morons will say "but BBs have healt to tank dmg". Yeah, they probably play cruisers and DDs. Health conpensates size, and lack of maneuverability. Tanking is technically possible, but only by spreading damage between attacking BB formation (not sure if one can call it tanking in this situation) but only with cooperation with entire rest of the team. Destroyers prefer to spin like turds in toilets, cruisers will shoot from 15km+ or hide in smoke, and every BB that will even think of tanking in random will be someones "first blood" achievement. So thank You but You dont need to tank for BBs. Because you cant. And neither can they.
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Tier IX is only there to lead to tier X. Personally had both, and despite i didnt like izumo would go for it. It leads to Yamato, and is better camper than germans. Tier X in BBs is unfortunately about camping. Yes we all dont like it but thats the truth. Deal with it. If you want to get close get a DD. I had FdG, Basically oversized bismarck. Nothing remarkable. Sold it when unlocked GK. Played 6 battles, while trying to brawl. Didnt end well. Pathetic gun angles on both back turrets. Had to give a lot of my long broadside to not limit firepower by half. Ate a ton of damage. Sold GK after 6 matches. Lost about 10kk silver. Not happy. Izumo is not too good. also squishy but better to have 2/3 of guns than 1/2. Requires some work but can be fun and leads to Yamato. Yamato doesnt need advertising.
