Oderisson

You and many other CV people in this thread are exactly the rason why there wont be buffs and only nerfs. 85% on Haku and 80% on Midway. The only way is down. Deal with it.

Unfortunately thats german meta right now. This game doesnt allow you for solo tanking and judging from your post thats what you are trying to do. Germans were designed to get close and personal and soften up target with secondaries, but they werent designed to do it alone. Thats the reason I sold my Kurfurst after 8 battles. At this tier 9/10 teams will hang in the back. Thats where You will be least effective. My advice is to invest everything You have in range and accuracy and stick with your team. Also You have to watch out when Your team panics and starts running away because You are the biggest target there is and will be focused by most ships. You should stick with larger part of Your team, because it is less likely to suddenly retreat and panic. Check in the beginning where more ships are going and stick with them. I know its against the rules of good gameplay, but thats how it is. I remember loving playingmy Bismarck like a brawler, but now I dont even take it out from port. I even retrained my 19 point captain to gneissenau, because thats where pleasurable game wih german ends in my opinion.

We both stated facts. Problem is that both of us picked ones that suited them and that makes them opinions. Either way it doesnt matter. Also nobody should care what CV players think about CVs. Personally I think that players should have no saying about the ships they play. Its called conflict of interests, or being a judge in your own case. Developer has acces to stats serverwide and its their job to react. Granted they may not be doing it in best way, but You clearly have no idea how tiresome proces it is. And it is getting harder. Its easy to say: We have 4 classes, balance them. We have a lot more classes with +/- 2 matchmaker and 6 nations. And being a [edited] about it is not going to help

You have Your opinion i have mine. None of them matters. What matters are stats. And stats are saying Midway is getting its hangar reduced because it is op compared to Haku. If You think that You are specialist because You had 300 battles in tier X carriers and can rebalance them then good luck. Fortunately WG devs are smarter than You and apparently have acces to more data.

I can read. I just disagree. Midway had +40% overall planes despite ONLY torp bombers having -15% health. So much for sustain. Midway torp damage is better +10%. Midway has AP bombs (over 10k), also He bombs are much better. Midway HE is 8000, Haku He is 4800. Midway can delete ships. This is balancing. I dont need to play both, if I can do basic math.

I have noticed that being rude has a lot to do with ship class one is playing. I almost never got verbally abused by BB players, but mostly by DDs. Personally I think it has a lot to do with gameplay. Battleships are slow and calm, while DDs are fast paced. They almost always have a lot to say about others and its never nice.

Balance. Not nerf. Read the statement, midway was too good in long games. You think it was too good against ships, or hakuryu? Because I can clearly read Hakuryu. Also if you think that having one ship OP will fix problem then You clearly dont know how good gameplay works.

Thats one sexy camo... Guessing its for those who decided to hang around and see where ship goes

Sprawdzone info? Zastanawiam się nad zakupem bo mam juz odblokowanego i w sumie dużo więcej niż wystarczająco kredytów.

This was already tested in WOT. Didnt work. For those not aware i am talking about historical and national battles. Historical, because t34s (tier V) grouped against Tigers (tier VII) proved to be a slaughterhouse. National, because T29 dominated everything when in hulldown position. And now You want assymetric battles? Let me guess BBs vs DDs? 10 Yamatos against 10 Shimas? This is taking a blunder to a compleately new level of stupidity.

Does anyone knows if recent armor penetration change fixed republique problem of getting citadelled by cruisers at extreme ranges?

Did a test on alzace: No speed bost max speed 32 knots 1:09, half speed 16 knots 0:22 Speed boost speed 32 knots 0:38, half speed 16 knots 0:16 Didnt change valuses for the sake of comparision. You basically get 6 seconds advantage on half speed and juicy half minute on max speed. Max speed is not important here because you are gaining 8%, but the acceleration is cruiser-like. Big fat slow-turnig cruiser, but but a cruiser, not a battleship.

Since i happen to have all relevant (NO to Republique untill it grows two additional turrets) french bbs i will do a test today evening. Full stop - half speed - full speed. Will see what is the result.

Basically i have noticed that speed boost transforms your French BB into a cruiser (acceleration) for short period of time. One really feels the differnce when compares it to Yamato or Conqueror.

Acceleration is most important. I think it only worls till 50% speed. But ship reaches it much faster. Great after running aground or starting

Tu nie o to chodzi że dodatkowa ma nagle wymiatać. Tak jak kolega powiedział, że jak wypłynęła na niego deska zza krzaka to się nie zdązyła schować. I teraz kolega widzi że jak zobaczy deskę na 6km to ją zje. Mała rzecz a cieszy. Perki nie mają nagle zwiększyć ci dmg x5, albo zmniejszyć obrażenia /2. To by rozwaliło balans okrętów. Tu chodzi o drobne modyfikacje. I dodatkowe 20k obrażeń takie właśnie jest. A 20 k na niszczyciel to sporo.

A to nie jest tak ze musi byc tylko powyzej? Np 25.1 penetruje 25?

Mylisz się. Kąt ma znaczenie tylko w przypadku AP. Dla HE jest bez znaczenia. Liczy się tylko grubość na zasadzie kaliber/6 a w kilku przypadkach /4. Dla francuzów jest /6. Kąt padania dla HE nie ma znaczenia.

Ja oczywiście zakładam trafienia.Kąt trafienia jest nieistotny, byle trafić. Jak weźmie manualne pomocnicze to będzie nawała ogniowa. Jeżeli chce IFHE to ja bym zrezygnował z wydłużonego zasięgu a zostawił concealment. Tym sposobem zmniejszy odległość walki, ale więcej trafi. Kiedyś flamu robił porównanie dla ifhe kurfursta. Z ifhe zjadł yamato 2,5 raza szybciej niż bez. Różnica była własnie taka że tam wszystko przebijało dziób, a bez to wszystko z pożarów.

Z IFHE kaibrem 100mm 21mm przebijesz. Czyli nadbudówki pancerników, bo te mają po 19 mm, nadbudówki krążków (16mm), i wszystko u niszczarek. A nawała ognia jest spora. Bez tego tylko 16, czyli w sumie nic konkretnego na tym tierze. Nadbudówki części krążków, nadbudówki niszczarek. Nawet burty niszczarki nie ruszysz (19mm). Czyli tak, buff konkretny. Masz jeszcz 9 155mm czyli z IFHE to 33mm. Burty pancerników i dzioby, mają po 32mm. Czyli przebijesz ich dzioby, nadbudówki i wszystkiego co lżejsze też. Bez tego 25mm. Czyli wszystkie nadbudówki, część krążków, , wszystkie niszczarki. Osobiście tego nie testowałem ale matematyka mówi na "tak".

Ok but what to do now? Af far as I can see the opinion here is pretty clear. Most DD players left because DDs are to demanding and easily killable. I personally agree, and thats why I didnt pursue DDs myself. I chose this game for ocasionall rollercoaster, not all time pressure. GulvkluderGuld provided some decent insight but its like asking for a glass of water and getting hit by a bucket in return. What do you guys needs to change to bring people back to DDs, and encourage good play as scouts and ninja assasins, that doesnt require another class overhaul. The CV one didnt work (since it didnt happen in last 2 years), and DD one wont work [edited]well in reasonable time.

But if they saw that they are not following they should react. Winning team didnt commit any dds to middle because without cover this would be suicide

Wow, this screen illustrates my point perfectly. Look at Your DDs. Keeping with the main force, providing spot, or caping in Your case well defended spot with BB in the back providing backup and modest force in the middle. Other DD capped other point with rest of team supporting him. Proffesional. And now other team. Two idiots rushed cap with no support, while rest of enemy team was all going left. Let me guess, they managed to push through, while Your right flank lost one or two ships while retreating, but in the end got outflanked. What were DDs thinking? That team will follow them, because they decided so? And decided to take a cap in the open without cover? Idiots. And tis isnt weekend problem.

Yeah, and I have noticed it and stopped playing CVs at tier 8. Kinda got tired of getting my [edited]handled to me on a platter. But there were no recent changes to DDs. Stelth firing was taken out, and I believe it was a smart thing, and long ago but thats pretty much it. Smoke change didnt effect DDs. Nothing did. Why middle ground left?

If this was this weekends problem I would have mentioned it in the last 2,5 years, I have playing this game. This is something new, recent, something I havent observed before