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I did not mean the russian cruisers are the best HE spammers, but that HE spamming is what they do best. However, I think that the Kutuzov may be the best HE spammer, at least on its tier, but not played the Zao yet.

It is not british people as such that are pissed of, but the players that are actually interested in naval warfare and WW2. A large nation as UK should not have such a "special interest" cruiser tree that is totally useless for casual players. Especially since the british cruisers really were more of a kind of grey workhorses that could do much but was not brilliant at anything.

The people complaining about the RN and russian ships are not only british people, but people actually interested in naval warfare! Even if the russians seems to think so, people from other countries are not only interested in their own nations, but nations that had considerable surface navies during WW1 and especially WW2. That is because people get annoyed when countries like Poland and China are introduced into the game before France or Italy.

I rather think the problem is that CVs and BBs does not mix very good in the same battle. If you look at actual battles, the only one that may resemeble av WOWS match in that regard is the battle during the US invasion of the Phillipines. Other than that, you had no battles were you both had large surface engagements and the battle got dominated by carriers. In the actual battles with CVs on both sides, the fleets never saw each other. Also, in battles where CVs were present on both sides, the planes to a large degree simply ignored all enemy ships except the CV, and only went for BBs or CAs as a bonus after the enemy CVs had been sunk or seriously damaged. That was because CVs were so powerful compared to other ships, that when they were present, other ships were irrelevant.

Those thing are possible to handle by themselves, but when you get those damn planes in addition, it really becomes not fun at all.

On the other hand, making CVs more boring to play so fewer play them, makes the game much more fun for everyone else.

It is almost like they do not want people to play the RN cruisers, so they can use it as an excuse to introduce the slovakian BB tree before the RN BB tree....

I would actually like to see USS Washington as a tier 8 premium. It would be nice to use my best captain for a North Carolina while still using it on a higher tier BB, and historically it was one of the few battleships to actually deliver crippling damage to another BB in surface combant during WW2! Another ships I think many would like to see is the german cruiser Admiral Graf Spee. It is really the only major class of larger german surface ship WW2 that is still missing from the game, and it should resemble a lower tier Scharnhorst, which is a very fun ship to play. I would also like to see Hyūga pre conversion with flight deck, as there should at least be one more japaneses premium BB.

On the other hand, many good players are assholes that really deserve to be chatbanned.

My statistics with the Kutuzov is crapbecause in the first half of the games, I had no clue what I was doing(mostly used it to play together with other people). Another thing is that winrate is not really that relevant here. The reason being that a MK can stay back and firespam, and survive, and the team still lose. It could be argued that a ship staying so far back for the entire match can be a liability for the team, but that was not what we was discussing. We were discussing its ability to survive a battle against BBs at long range. And even though some very good BB players may be able to kill it from such a range, most of them are not skilled enough to.

It is mostly from experience. I have never been killed by a BB when engaging at maximum range with a CA. However, as I am a medicore player, I often overlook another BB that I get to close to or get surprised by an enemy CA appearing from nowhere Seems you are a cruiser player that complain to get BBs nerfed or something?

But that will propably not happen, as they also need to fight other threats. If two BBs just fire at a Kutuzov. they will take a lot of damage from other ships in the meantime.

I do not remember, but someone posted the link to it on this forum a couple of weeks ago.

However, they had actual plans to make many of the fantasy ships, and for a few of them they had already started constructing them or even buildt them, but changed plans during construction like the Amagi. Actually, one of the turres for the tier 9 german BB was actually made and is still in Norway as they used it as a forification.

I think World of Tanks have some serious problems: 1. The difference between the bottom tier and top tier tanks in each battle are to great. 2. Fantasy tanks are to important and dominate over the historical tanks. 3. Many fantasy tanks and even real tanks with longer than in real life guns simply look stupid and unrealistic. At least the fantasy ships here would be possible to construct in real life.

People may still know more about individual ships even though they are no expert on the game as a whole.

When engaging at long range it may be better to aim for BBs since you actually hit them, and they are much more propable to show you their sides. When at max range, a Kutuzov can simply dodge at the moment the BBs fire. It is possible if the CA can hold the right distance from the target and be able to not engage to many enemy ships at the same time.

A well angled Kutuzov enganging at maximum range is not easy to get a good hit at.

I would rather claim that CVs cause camping rather than prevent it. CVs make it more important for ships to hold together, so most BB and even CA stay at the back so not to lose benefit of other ships AA for defense if attacked by planes. What CVs do is exactly to force ships to stay more together, making games more boring I think.

Those BBs have torpedos because they had them historically.

I think you can say that it is a glorified Kønigsberg. It was simply an improvement over that design in real life, and easily end up like that in the game.

I have the impression that there are two kinds of complaints that constantly come up on this forum. One type of complaint are players that feel that their situation is hopeless with a certain class of ships because some other kind of ship is overpowered. This may be DDs spotted by CA rader, BBs sunk by torpedos, BBs being burned to death or CAs being sunk by a single BB salvo. The second kind of complaint are players that think that players playing other classes of ships play the game wrong. It may be players angry about BBs camping at the back and sniping, cruisers not hunting down DDs, DDs that does not bother to cap early in the game and so on. When I put these two together, I think there is a pattern. The people that complain in the first group are the players that actually play the game like the second group think they should! If BBs push they get torpedoed and burned and if CAs hunt DDs they get instantly killed by BB salvos. I therefore sit with the impression that if you try to do teamwork and/or do what is best for the team, you only get yourself a fast and meaningless death?

I do not agree with that. If one team have several members trying to play actively and get killed early while the other team is defensive, the other team may then attack and pull in a win based on the advantage they got.

Yes, off course a skilled player can succeed with doing things the way that is best for the time, but for a poor or even medicore player, it may be safer and more effective to play the game like a cowardly egoist.

Oh yes, that never happens... I have also seen quite a few poor players sailing in a straight line side towards the enemy with Konigsberg and Nurneberg and then crying "cheater" when they get sunk by a single BB salvo. On the other hand, it is good that so many people playing them are useless, because they can really be a serious annoyance with a skilled player controlling them!