Nibenay78

Seems we agree when it comes to surface ships then. A pity El2 wasn't crapping on you all game there to enhance the enjoyment.

The more of them in the game, the more they will be played on average. Like low tiers need more rapid-uncontrolled-cell-growth ships. Personally I don't play much below 9-10, but trying to level up a reasonably new RL friend.. it's a giant pain in the behind to watch neverending planes come and watch the damage go 1..2...1..2...2...2.. @Pikkozoikum - didn't you say weak AA ships are so boring and blahblah? We can only watch in horror.

And this is an argument for...or against.. what? So I add to the abormal-cell-growth type of ships? I'm good without. So it's both unfun playing against it and unfun to play a handicapped Kongo? Sounds like great design!

What does this have to do with the implementation of ships in WoWs?

So are nuclear missile submarines then... Lets implement them!

You forgot this option - shooting down CV planes so that we can play a warSHIPS game again!

I hear..CV apologist ignoring how planes ruin the fun They are...everywhere.

I'm sure WG enjoys to target you in particular. Totally worth it for them to waste money on an algorithm that disfavours you out of all the random players...

Given that I farked up and took at 70% strike just as we were losing.. i'm good with that :P

I agree with him :D

Eight minutes into the game it was 6 vs 2 dead. End of game a double kraken! Best comback I've had in 20k battles...

I strongly suggest not to try to squeeze past a wreck and a mountain. I assumed my poor Missouri would just stop and I could back out of the situation... but alas... Please note that in the last 2 screenshots I am actually firing.

It's always great when you're DD, trying to do something useful and the Enterprise is on you all the time. ...while your own Implacable flies into the blob, trying to bomb some tier X BB. it's going to be a boring battle!

I think you should post a replay or two. I suspect there may be something that may be improved from your side...

Every single one where the bad CV touches me, and I don't shoot down 70+ planes and kill him. The non-CV games are good!

The good one?

You're still way behind...

Exceptions still...

well naturally, but it's also sometimes enjoyable to replay certain ships. For myself I have replayed tier 9 ships with fresh 1-point captains etc. And the more fun ships one can always skip flags and save them for the boring ones.

Like when you reset a line or at any moment doesn't play tier X because your friends need to grind their low level crap ships at CV infested tiers..?

Personally I'd prefer to know which player is blood red, so that I don't try to be helpful and waste smoke on a player who doesn't even notice it. But I enjoy not knowing and finding out who needs priority spanking. I'll have no issues with being purple ever then, and thus also not be picked on first I agree with Beasty that it's potentially self defeating.. I will go wash myself in acid!

Mostly same here, it was like playing chess against the other CV, while trying to both kill the enemy while protecting your own team AND not get deplaned. Even though I didn't play much, it was sometimes quite engaging. Playing rework CV is more like "which enemy surface ship should i piss on today" and not so much more. This is the feeling I get...

I never understood this restarting..... I'm good with people (possibly) underestimating me.

indeed, to compare with WoT... the sole reason I started playing artillery was to do counter-artillery. It worked pretty well. Does it work pretty well in WoWs? not so much... edit: lets not forget that artillerys only advantage is indirect fire. In most other aspects they are near useless (armor, turn rate, speed, spot range and-so-on-and-so forth)

The facts are: the complain threads for the rework threads are massive. The complaints are different than for RTS. Anything else is assumtions, for example I agree more RTS carriers would probably give more complaints. Yet this is only assumptions. Since the complaints are different, it's hard to say if the amount of complaining would be equal. You seem to think so, I don't. But that's just assumptions from both of us. The facts are: the complain threads for the rework threads are massive. The complaints are different than for RTS. Anything else is assumtions, for example I agree more RTS carriers would probably give more complaints. Yet this is only assumptions. Since the complaints are different, it's hard to say if the amount of complaining would be equal. You seem to think so, I don't. But that's just assumptions from both of us. Thank you. So we DO agree the complaints are different. The two latter are simply balance issues that could be tweaked as much as we had a year of continous tweaking with RW CV As we discussed before, I tended to pick high AA ships spesifically to be a teamplayer. When ones saves the last remaining BB from a massive alfa strike, just because of positioning and timing, it feels like one is doing something useful for the team to win. Gearing with 7.2km AA and defAA had a purpose teamwise. Now it isn't enough for self defence. Same with for example Montana. Sure it's big and slow like all BBs, yet it could at times be a massive pain in the butt for attacking CVs. With 7.2 range, one would continously pick off strike craft at long range. Now it's not interesting because most long range AA is mostly to flush down the toilet. Really? Few instances of annoying/OP/unfair/etc ships = low complaint count Many instances of annoying/OP/unfair/etc ships = high complaint count I don't disagree, but then again I'm not sure adding snipers in every game might be a good choice. Personally I'd love to keep CVs in the game, but in their current form I'm way more tempted to quit playing at all. Just because it's unpopular doesn't mean everyone else would whine about it? It's clearly not balanced like the rest. If a game has a overweight of either BB, CA or DD, it's perfectly possible to have a fun game. Please tell me you think a tier X game with 5 CVs pr side would be incredible enjoyable as a surface ship!? Indeed. Wonder why. I really don't see why I even bother discussing with people who don't grasp this.