Nibenay78

Yes it does indicate something is wrong. Even I can tell you that...

So when do we get ballistic missile subs? They dont have to be fun for anyone as long as WG finds they should be introduced (read: make money). We can always "balance" them up and down for a while.

I like most ships more when carriers are not present. Småland and Halland are ok if the CV player is really incompetent and I am not near scary cruisers.

I'm surprised why people bother discussing why WG charges differently in the various regions. They charge the price that they think should give maximum profit based on buying power. (Edit: and then it is up to each of us to decide to buy or not for the adverticed price.) I dont care what RU prices are but I am surprised why anyone would pay over €100 in EU for a pixelship. I would be more tempted to buy a starship in Star Citizen, knowing full well that it will not be released in our lifetime :D

Living in one of the countries with the highest price levels (and wages) in EU, I would rather burn my money than buy Napoli for this price.

Because he didnt come asking what is happening. Just rant off about its a bug and dds, while being completely oblivious about the most basic parts. If he'd started in a bit more careful manner like "guys what is happening here.." the general response might not have the same tone. Seeing planes in the sky, on the minimap and sound of AA suddenly banging away could be clues that the torpedoes are not a bug. Edit: and it seems its not the occational mistake either..

Aaaaaadiccted!! But the whole topic explains many situations for me..

This happens frquently and is vastly annoying. My favorite happening was a non-moving, somewhat angled enemy on low hp (really close range and think some fast shooting cruiser). Due to the slight angle and its was no reason to actually go for a cit, i just aimed just below the deckline to simply hit with as many shells as possible. Almost all went into the water in front. And i am like "fuuuu... it happened!!". Target still alive and starts to eat my hp fast. Now aim just above the deckline, and fire again. Like 70% went into the water, luckily a few hit...

I'm sure it is, but CV play is reasonably boring so I probably won't play enough to get there. Still at that point I'm not sure that is a challenge I'd care for. Do I manage to sink 5 or 6 ships alone this game (on a regular basis), I'll hazard a guess I'd start to find it boring.

True, although personally I prefer a bit of a challenge in games. Each to their own.

Same as WoT, yet I wonder how much fun a newbie has when he skipped directly into tier 8 in his brand new amazing ship and meets some random CV player.. lets say someone called Yosha_nai, to be completely annihilated. Of course if he spent €10+ on the game before leaving it, I suppose it's a win for WG.

They can reduce the spread anyways and have them drop all on top of eachothers. It will be grand.

4 after rework? I just tried with 2... well lets have 8 pr drop then. I'm all good.

I'm good with that, pump them into above-OP-land and see how that works for player retention at low-mid levels. Give Hosho 4 torps pr drop and I'll become a CV main.

Sounds like the problem is fixing itself.

It doesn't happen often enough. We can only hope at some point the worst AA on any tier X ship will be equivalent Halland.

I can live with that, because the old AA was also the same, yet more satisfying. In one of the top AA ships and DefAA, you COULD at least hope that this AA actually deterred the CV from flying over you constantly for 2 minutes... since it' obviously can't stop strikes anyways.

That's the issue. Many people play bad but seems immune to learning. I can perfectly understand if it's a kid or a new/very casual player has crap scores and don't really get what they should do. Yet I've met adults (30-50) which have 10-20k games and seem oblivious to even vaguely improving to the most basic of gameplay like "dont sail broadside ALL the time" or "actually manage to land shells ONTO the non-moving battleship you are firing at"

Because it's frustrating to have teammates that sail 10km behind you and think they are doing amazing by "not dying fast", but effectively not contributing to ANYTHING! It's fine to be a casual player, yet it's also nice to have teammates that are vaguely reliable and just drive around the map... I'm honestly amazed how this is possible, coupled with a quick look at wows-numbers. I really don't get it. Seems it's not just the other person adding to the toxic chat. More love in ingame chat is good :D

What did I say? AA does nothing :-o

BBs at 20km also usually doesn't do anything :P

Lets even out the statistics with one more random battle.. notice I got 2 planes!

I highlighted the relevant part and you know I meant that. I'll risk guessing that most WoWs players dont want realism, yet many enjoy verisimilitude. Most of the gameplay in wows isnt realistic at all. Just like carriers are part of naval warfare so are various others. We are already getting homing torpedo subs, so I'm sure we can make balanced (oh wait, balance is not required. We will call it asymetrical. Yes that was scarcasm) nuclear missile weapons in the game. Just because it exists in rl doesn't mean it will be fun & engaging to have in the game. In fact CV weapons are 99% guided missiles already. Just not that damaging yet quite annoying. (Did we mention it also ruins stealth?) This is closer to counterstrike than RPG style games with vastly different. I think most here are perfectly aware asymmetrical classes exist. I think having played pen&paper DnD for about 30 years, I am also aware how that works. It doesn't mean it must be fun or balanced or even a positive addition to a game. Can I have my asymetrical class "missile submarine now?" While nuclear would be most fun, I can survive having antiship missiles on it. and just to point it out to you yet again: I would love CVs in the game but not in their current form. Clearly you don't enjoy sneaking up on other ships (oh wait you dont play DDs...oh well) and ambush them. Personally I enjoy doing this in all ships, including BBs. Especially the latter option is already tricky and totally goes out the window when the the flying skyrats can sneak a spot on you any moment, while you use 2 minutes to set up a kill.. And most of them tends to have drawbacks to balance them out. This goes for all games. To compare arty in WoT - they are (with marginal exceptions): slow acceleration, slow speed, poor aimtime, slow reload, poor spotting, bad accuracy. To do your comparison with RPG like classes, having played reasonably much DnD, the lasted 5ed is the favourite of myself and several others. The main reason is that all classes are somewhat balanced. Why does this matter in a coop game? Well noone is left feeling they can't contribute to the groups success. CVs are certainly WAY different then WoTs artillery... in RPG terms its like having several classes smacked together in one and claiming it's all good. I don't know if you follow RPG discussion, but MANY people enjoy the classes being balanced (or at least close enough). I personally dislike MANY ships in the game, but I don't complain about them much even though I think they are not enhancing the game really. CVs on the other hand are insanely annoying. So like someone above, I'm curious to why you don't like DDs. Feel free to answer in PM to not clutter the thread. (we can have a "DD discussion thread..")

What I try to do every game But usually it doesnt happen

Yet it seems this is rarely said by anyone that has a basic understanding of the game. STRANGE! Should we go down the rl path in regards to carriers.....? And when do i get my ballistic missile sub that can auto-kill you from the other side of the map?