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Still getting ready to un-install this game on the day Wargaming put subs into Random Battles. Played a few games in ranked in a BB with subs. Sometimes I ended up with 2 subs on each team. This in a 7 vs 7 game mode. Subs are a complete joke to play against, esp with a BB. Wargaming, no matter how much you tinker with subs. YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO BALANCE THEM FAIRLY. So, you have been warned Wargaming. 1 less player on the horizon here.

Exactly, why we did not need nor want German fantasy CV's. Nor do we need or want Russian fantasy CV's either. We need less garbage CV's in this game, not more. I am with Jingles on this one (ex CC BTW). The CV rework was a complete and utter disaster, just the same as the garbage commander skills rework. But as usual, Wargaming, you do not listen. I cannot wait for you to put subs into random battles, then I can finally un-install this dumpster fire of a game.

I have said all along Wargaming. The day you put Subs into Random Battles, will be the day I un-install the game. My view on this has not changed. No matter how much you tinker with subs, you will never be able to balance them fairly. Playing with a DD will just be so intolerable, with having so much to do. Spotting, capping, sub depth charging, CV aircraft dodging. Its all just too much. Plus it will become intolerable to play a BB too. Judging by my reading on this forum, many other players agree with me. They also say they will stop playing. Your loss Wargaming, not mine.

I may have called my team a bunch of idiots. But 90% of the time, that is an accurate statement. Esp when you see all your team camping at the back, ignoring 3 cap points, who then wonder why they lost in quick time. Don't remember, don't care any more.

Logged in today to find that I am chat banned again, till 02/09/20. Well, I have had enough of this garbage game. Threatened to leave on the day you put subs into random battles. Uninstalled World of Tanks last week due to their garbage Equpment 2.0 update. Played WoT since 2012, with tons of money spent on that game. Thought I would play WoWS instead. But, NO, I am handed another crappy chat ban. Played Warships since the closed Alpha. Well you can shove it Wargaming, Warships has been uninstalled too now. Bye bye Wargaming, you will NOT be missed.

Can someone from Wargaming give me a date when you will be putting subs into random battles? I want to put a note on my calender to remind me when to un-install the game.

Well, I guess that 24th June could very well be the day I quit playing. No doubt Wargaming will think all is fine and dandy with subs, and they will think its OK to put them in random battles. The day they do that, will be the day I quit!!

I think perhaps he means 30% win chance games?

This exactly buddy. It wouldn't bother me to wait a little longer in order to get a fairer game. Your damn right that Wargaming are scared that players will leave if the wait times increase. Much easier to find ships of +2 -2 than +1 -1.

Very funny, I see what you did there. Pointless, but funny. Keep it going.

Whatever. Like I said, there's always one decent player on the forums that thinks all those that are not as good as them don't deserve to voice their opinions. Read my post properly. I DID NOT SAY IT DON'T WORK WHILE FINDING MATCHES. I SAID +2 MATCHMAKING DOESN'T WORK. That is my opinion, +2 mm will always be garbage. Its garbage in WoWS and its even worse in WoT, but Wargaming don't give a toss.

There's always one arrogant decent player on the forum. The matchmaker is garbage. As long as it is +2 it will always be garbage. That's my opinion, and I couldn't give a rats arse what you think.

So what. It means nothing. Just because you may have a few good games when bottom tier don't mean you can say its working. We are not all 59% win rate players like you pal.

There's only one thing you need to know regarding the matchmaker. IT IS TOTAL GARBAGE. +2 matchmaking DOES NOT WORK. It is garbage when you are bottom tier. But people say, "at least you can still do damage". How can I do damage when I am out ranged and out gunned? I find it is at its worse when I play a tier 5 ship. If I get into a tier 7 battle, 9 times out of 10, I have NO CHANCE. +2 matchmaking in both WoWS and WoT is totally unfair. But Wargaming refuse to try out +1 matchmaking in any of their games. I wouldn't mind waiting in the queue a little longer, to get a +1 -1 game.

Whatever

Stop being pedantic. OK, can someone from Wargaming confirm or deny that subs will or will not end up in random battles? I bet you won't. All you are saying is initially they will be in a separate game mode, then you will decide their fate after more testing. But mark my words. Myself and many others are convinced that you will put subs in random battles eventually. The day that happens will be the day I un-install.

Ok thats what they said. But its being a bit pedantic. In this original portal item https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/general-news/submarines-announcement/ Its made clear they want them to be put into pvp. In my mind, that means putting them into random battles.

The point is that Wargaming have said that subs will eventually be put into random battles. With them being in a separate game mode at first. It looks to me that Wargaming will NOT give the player a choice. Once subs are put into random battles, that will be it. You will have to put up with it. Players asked for an option to play battles without carriers. Have Wargaming ever indicated they would consider this, NO they haven't. It will be the same with subs. You will have no choice. Once subs enter random battles, I think BB and some cruisier play will just be totally intolerable.

You cannot quote Steam players as much of an example. OK, your source says the average over last 30 days is 10523 players. 25% of that figure is 2630. But what you are forgetting is the fact that far more players play the game outside of Steam. But its hard to get an exact figure. EG logged into game at 1115 this morning and over 15000 were online. Now 25% of 15000 is 3750, things are starting to look a lot higher than your 2500 figure. My 25% is just a guess, nothing more. Its just my gut feeling. Now lets look at your comment about the post count at top right of every thread. That is just a count of the answers in the thread. As tons of the answers are from posters that are directly responding to posts that other people have made. You cannot turn round and say we have 345 posts in this thread, the 25% figure of that is 86, there isn't 86 posts of negative comments. Because as I have just said, lots of the posts are posts where others are responding to what others have posted. So you wouldn't find 86 negative posts. But you cannot make figures out of people posting on forums either. Only a very small percentage of the player base actually bother to visit the forums, let alone post something. I am just basing my gut feeling on what I have seen on the forums. If you look at every thread that was put up since subs were announced, you will find plenty of players that are not happy like me. Oh and don't start insulting players intelligence, it just makes you look like an arrogant unicom player. But then again, I don't know how good a player you are, because you hide your stats. I wonder why?

All work together lol. Your avving a laugh.

Do you really think Wargaming will continue tweaking subs for another year. No they won't, I predict that subs will be in the main client in the next 2 or 3 patches. Then a couple of months after that, they will put them into randoms. I am not the only player that is going to quit. You read the forums and you will find plenty of others that feel the same way. But if Wargaming want to lose another 25% of their player base, then bring it on.

Well that's a crying shame, because I will continue to call out Wargaming on this garbage. Yours is the typical comment from the arrogant player that has tons of games under his belt. I am entitled to my opinion, just as much as any other. Remember, it wasn't all that long ago that Wargaming said "SUBS WILL NEVER BE IN THE GAME". I don't give a monkeys toss about historical accuracy. You put subs into this game and its bye bye BB and Cruiser play. So I will quit!

Its not an empty threat. The day they put subs into randoms, will be the day I quit. Played since closed Alpha, the garbage CV rework was bad enough. No matter what Wargaming do with subs, they will NOT be balanced. I will be quitting, their loss, not mine.

Well, I finally got round to playing the test server. Oh boy, I can tell you my attitude towards subs has not changed. This was my 1st full game in a sub. I did not have a proper clue what I was doing, and this is the result: Subs are totally OP, that's for certain. Why can they cap with just their periscopes showing? They should have to fully surface to cap. This is what I was able to do without any proper knowledge of playing subs. The day these monstrosities arrive into random battles on the live server, will be the day I QUIT FOR GOOD!

They have been tested 3 times already. 4 times, if you count the original Halloween event that involved subs. Although, I haven't played any of the tests myself. I did play the Halloween event and I have seen many Youtube videos from CC and others that have covered each sub test. The Youtube videos I have seen, have convinced me that subs will break the game and will not be properly balanced by Wargaming. Leave them in a special game mode and things will be fine. Put them into random battles, and I will be done with this game, end of.