Smegger213

Well, I didn't say you were a Seal Clubber mate.

Most players describe Seal Clubbing as a player that stays at low tiers, and plays an OP ship or tank at those low tiers. So they can prey on the new players and get stats that make them look good players. EG in WoT you get players that play the tier 3 Premium French TD FCM 36 Pak 40 exclusively, and prey on the noobies. That player you shared has very good stats indeed. But you do occasionally see Super Unimum players. That table you shared was just that guys latest 14 games played.

OK then wise guy. Apart from this screenshot, I have not said anything of the sort. I believe this is the first time I have described a screenshot post as meaningless. What I did say was "Its pointless posting screenshots of unbalanced teams by a skill such as win rate". Or words to that effect. IE It is pointless shouting for a skill based matchmaker, because Wargaming will NEVER EVER BRING A SKILL BASED MM INTO THE GAME.

All it says is Z-31 8 battles, 62.5% win rate etc, etc, etc. That's all it tells us, so what is it supposed to be saying? Even a poor player can play a ship for 8 battles, and get lucky and win 62% of those battles. So that table is meaningless without an explanation. Plus he says " Completely unplayable, awful MM. Never gonna get anywhere." But I want to know what that table has to do with " Completely unplayable, awful MM"?

Is that one players stats with those 2 ships or what? I don't see the point of that table without any context to refer to?

I have got to the stage that 75% of the time, I cannot even be bothered to play. I just log in for whatever free item is for that day, then I quit. Or if I do play, I will just play enough games to get the 3 free containers per day. This has been caused by partly as a result of the garbage matchmaker. But mainly, by my absolute hatred of subs being in random battles. Well, played Wargaming. You drive me further away from enjoying the game with every update.

Well, its that long ago, and my memory isn't that bothered. Besides, I am not the kind of sad player that keeps screenshots from that long ago, just to push a pro Wargaming agenda. But it matters jot nothing at what I say. We all know you just exist on this forum to shout down any player that calls out Wargaming on any game matter.

So you have posted info from 2015 or 2016. That is 7 years ago. Here we are with Wargaming celebrating 7 years of the game. Yet you produce info probably from the Closed Alpha. The best thing you can come up with is to say: "Well, 7 years ago you didn't have it so lucky". I am not impressed at all.

Well, I have been playing since the Closed Alpha, and as far as I am aware, the game has always had +2 _2 matchmaking. At least in Random Battles. So perhaps you could enlighten us as to how and when Tier 6 could meet Tier 9?

Woopy do. Am I supposed to be impressed? Nice pathetic screenshot from god knows when by the way.

I assume you are referring to the recent change where the number of destroyers you could have on your team was restricted in the matchmaker. Well, big deal. If that is the only thing they can think of to improve the matchmaker, then it just shows how out of touch the developers are.

I have been playing a few operations today. I have got a few different ones. I played some tier 7 cruisers and tier 8 BB's. I never got the same one twice in succession.

So, just because a majority go on the forums and say they hate subs, you say they are a**holes. Interesting analogy you have there. I was just stating the fact that more players have said in the forums that they hate subs. Compared to the number of players that have come onto the forum and said they like them.

I used to buy at least £100 of Xmas WoT boxes. Never bought WoWS Xmas boxes. I haven't played WoT in a couple of months, and I ain't playing that much of WoWS. I certainly won't be buying Xmas boxes from either game this year.

Yes mate. I predict that within 3 months of submarines being officially released, we will see premium subs in loot boxed and the premium shop. No doubt they will have gimmicks that the tech tree subs don't have, and they will be OP to please the minority.

One sub on a team means nothing. Its the total percentage of players actually bothering to play subs that I am interested in. If you like subs in the game, then that is fine by me. But I can assure you that you are in the minority here. Every forum topic I have seen that discusses submarines, has more players stating that they hate subs, than players that say they love them.

Every forum poll that has been posted has yielded similar results. I agree that the forums are not a fully true example of the full player base. But you could take the forum polls as a representative percentage example. That example would clearly show that more players want to see them either removed or in a separate game mode.

Nice poll example. Only 14% think subs are OK as they are. But 46% want them to be in a separate battle mode, and 39% want them removed from the game entirely. So, yes, this poll clearly shows that the majority of players do not want subs. Oh and I found the dev blog article with player numbers: https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/261. Its a bit old now for accurate current data, but its a good yardstick to judge on. The average number of sub players back then was hovering between 10% & 12%. But there were some significant drops in those graphs too. It depends on the tier, but in some tiers more players play subs than CV's lol.

Forum polls are meaningless. Its Wargamings official figures that count. I believe Wargaming showed some player sub percentages in a dev blog a few months ago. It showed that a small percentage of players were playing subs. I cannot find the article at the moment to quote the exact figures. But it sure wasn't as high as 14%. Plus you quote a forum poll without even linking it. How do I know the figure of 14% is correct?

They do fire doomsday blasts. I have been caught out many times when I have suddenly had to face a stream of sub torps that I cannot avoid. Plus how many ships are there in the game that cannot even counter a sub? Lots of cruisers spring to mind.

Well, even when the threw subs at the players for free, only a small percentage of the player base are actually playing them.

Well, we all know that Wargaming don't know the meaning of the word "balance". Plus Wargaming threw out any realism in this game as soon as they started adding stupid Anime ships, weird camos etc. There are many beefs that I have against subs. No1 being that they said back in the day that they would "NEVER" put subs in the game. Back then the developers knew that subs would be a nightmare to balance. But they now insist on putting them into the game, and its been proved right that they cannot balance them. My No2 beef is the stupid use of wasting a damage control to mitigate a sonar lock. This is without a doubt the dumbest mechanic that Wargaming have ever introduced. Why is it so hard to introduce a separate mechanic on a cool down to counter a sonar lock? I will never play subs myself, and I hate being forced to play against them. Wargaming are doing a great job of driving players out of the game. I came close to quitting, but it won't take much to tip me over the edge.

Well, if you like subs, you must therefore like coming in the bottom half of your team. Its my experience that every time I see a sub on our team. They end up either bottom on the team or in the bottom half. I still think subs are the worse thing that Wargaming could have put into the game. They will NEVER be able to balance them fairly for a surface ship player. I will never play subs, or CV's for that manor. This is just Wargaming pandering to the minority.

Wargaming still pushing stupid subs into the game. YOU JUST HAVE NO IDEA DO YOU WARGAMING. NOBODY WANTS SUBS EXCEPT YOU. WHY ARE YOU SO OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE PLAYER BASE?

Why are Carriers allowed to play in a 3 vs 3 Brawl? 1 side gets a CV, but the other side doesn't. This sort of matchmaking is a complete joke. When I played a Cruiser, I spent more time trying to dodge the CV's attacks. Than I did actually trying to shoot the other 2 ships. It was a complete and utter waste of time. Well done Wargaming. You managed to turn a fun 3 vs 3 battle, into a stupid pointless exercise.