BlueMoon51

I love that transfer to another server...................... right lets all switch to EU2 no wait................... there isn't one!

I have nothing to add to my earlier statement ;-)

Love the game for all the issues and missteps of the last 12 months I think the game has come along well although saying that the game is the most unbalanced its been with WG having pretty much killed off Carriers and Cruisers and Destroyers becoming less common. My hope is that the German Battleships caused that because they where the first real line introduced in 10 months and once we have a couple more things will even out.

I think its fair to say some time off I have a feeling they will flip the release with the IJN DD's so with an update every 3 weeks we are looking at likely not before early mid Nov and more likely xmas time.

Without resorting to insults in turn, it's not unfair to say that overall across the game as a whole the view of the British tanks, is at very best mixed. Personally I quite like the two ships and while the Warspite range is a little odd(given its historical achievement) they aren't bad at all. However, anyone that would put money on WG not totally screwing up the RN cruiser line is a very brave some would say foolish man. As I have said before only part of it is down to WG and any agenda they might or might not have, one has to acknowledge that the mood of the game right now is such that adding an effective Light Cruiser line is not something a lot of the current player-base are thrilled about(being as it is Battleship heavy), so WG are left with a square peg and a round hole and a line that historically should be one thing but they are trying to fit somewhere else. As others have said what is most annoying is that because it was placed 5th of the cruiser lines and WG want all lines to have a unique feel and not all just be copies of each other (not in itself a bad aspiration). The RN cruisers get left with the crumbs at the table good AP is gone good HE is gone speed is gone good shell arcs gone....................... So they are trying to get an Atlanta like ship line to fill another role without HE! Which brings me back to my start like British tanks peoples view on the Atlanta is mixed so combine that with the fact that they aren't giving you HE and you tell me how the [edited]will that work? and if you can't grasp why people are worried then you must be a better player than 99% of the people here

Given WG track record with their products and the British that is actually quite a statement. Although I agree we should wait to see before we start burning things. ​

so they are now trying AP spammers from really small smoke screens????

The problem was always going to be with a full light cruiser line having them not HE spam(and while a agree that smoke and HE isn't likely to cause issues), means there isn't a lot left.

Well indeed if that is the case AND the line is released in due time and it isn't broken, that would be a good thing and one we should all welcome GJ WG! I guess the point is that thats a HUGE IF..... and given WG and its "form" with the British in their two other titles are you willing to bet your house that it will be even middle of the road in terms of tier strength?

lifeboats.......

Their introduction has been put back due to their gamplay and role being rebalanced

I guess that's a point for debate and I don't think its truly rewriting history, because its fair to say there wasn't a whole lot of development between the wars by anyone until the 1930s In terms of carriers(and this is coming from someone who served in the RAF and has been connected to it pretty much all my life)the complex nature that the FAA where forced to work under was a major factor and the RAF involvement was of no help whatsoever(it's interesting that the planned German Carriers suffered from the same kind of operational control issues).

The reason I cut the first part out is that I have no reason to not believe whatsoever what you are saying about feedback from both yourself and the other testers(I'm sure it is 100% accurate). In regards to the point I made I'm not suggesting that WG want the line to fail(but I'm not sure everyone there wants it to be successful either). ​

Totally agree the line has to be "user-friendly" and by that I'm not talking about OP. My feeling is we will end up with the 2nd which in a way would kill two birds..... not being overly popular(good for those that made the 5th nation call)and two they can make the claim the line isn't an abortion.

Well, I can give you one good reason that they (or at least some) might feel if the line flops it will justify their selection of adding 4 nations before the RN. While that might not be in the interests of WG and the game itself anyone that is in a workplace knows everyone doesn't always pull in the same direction.

Spot on I'm somewhere between you both I agree that we should wait and see but, I also think it is also too important for WG to simply do what they did to the tank line and make something that wasn't great. ​

In terms of the largest navy not really because if you read what WG have said in connection to the game "Immerse yourself in the world of epic naval warfare and command legendary warships from the early 20th century " when is the cut-off for "early 20th century" some have said that might mean 1950 (thus the RN was the world's largest for 82%) if it's 1945 then it's even higher, if its after 1950 surely its not really "early 20th century". I would agree with the basis of what you said indeed I made the point that the USN during WW2 would be considered by most people stronger.

While what you say is true, I guess the point is that WG have "form" when it comes to their products and the British

I think, it's telling how relatively small the UK playerbase is across all of the WG titles is testament, to what has already gone on with their games. Personally, I will give them the benefit of the doubt, up to the point the line is released, but if it's the abortion I fear I'm going to be none too happy. All that being said I was considering this scenario this morning perhaps, the line was delayed badly in production, having said they wanted to get it out in 2016 they rushed it out clearly unbalanced. That then gave them the time to pull it "balance it" and if it doesn't make it this year they can simply claim they were listening to the playerbase and trying to do a good job with the line, that way they get a free pass for it being delayed past the end of the year. ​

Not sure the USN would agree with this. However, what can be said is as WG make the following statement Immerse yourself in the world of epic naval warfare and command legendary warships from the early 20th century The RN was the largest navy up to 1941. As for WG and their treatment of the RN I agree it sure isn't looking good and one of the things I find ironic is that pretty much every major navy copied the British, thus this idea that the RN needs some kind of gimmick is idiotic as they were the standard the other nations copied.

They Nerfed it????

You clearly have less than me, as you can go 10 games without seeing carriers at higher levels and as US cruisers are pretty uncommon I'm much more worried about things that can spot within my torp range thus Russian DD's that can chase you down and keep you spotted are much more worrying. If you don't think some DD's counter other ones you clearly are missing something and I can't really comment further. You clearly are missing my point in terms of figures, if you remove one class it impacts other classes(while I agree . For example during Beta Carriers were much more popular(many would say very OP), In turn, that made US cruisers also more popular(whats the point of having the best AA in the game if there are no aircraft). Thus if you restrict the number of DD's you raise the numbers of something....... Carriers.. unlikely, Cruisers doubtful, Battleships.. most likely as they are the class that would gain most by your proposed change. As for capping everything, is that really workable??? and wouldn't that make games unbelievably dull with the same make up every game and the wait times crazy in length, As for your first sentence, if you don't want people to comment about your idea's don't post. For whatever you might think of me I have as much right to comment as you or indeed someone who just started playing this morning. You don't have to have a great grasp of the game to discuss the impact that your idea would have on the overall health(either thinking its good or bad). ​

When you consider all DD's aren't created equally(for example the Ru/So ones are DD hunters)surely restricting the number of DD's would actually cause another effect. Speaking for myself when I'm playing my IJN DD's I want as few other DD's in the game that way I can aggressively hunt heavy ships without counter. Another issue how balanced do you think the game would be if you sides are made up almost entirely of Battleships, as what you suggest would further impact how useful Cruisers are. Or perhaps you think double figures in Battleships per game is actually healthy. Your part about domination mode just doesn't make sense at all, what you suggest is to encourage passive play basically playing until one side dies. As for why people play the game, I think you are wrong, clearly if you are playing a DD or a cruiser you don't simply play "to shoot their huge naval cannons at enemy ships and sink them". Domination forces teams into action, if you don't want to lose in 4mins then you have to do something about it and there are times as a BB you have to contest cap zones against DDs and as a BB there are times I have had to do just that(particularly when you have lost all your DD's or they have run off to kill carriers leaving the capzones to sing!)

Forget too many DD's, HE spam, Battleship glut, AFK players the biggest issue WG seem to have right now is these insane specials they come up with that reward EVERYONE playing the same way, or with the same class of ship. Don't get me wrong events in themselves are welcome, but just a little thought into how they will impact gameplay(something like the Kill them all event where every class has a mission works well)

I'm in the same boat(excuse the pun)as you with my Fubuki, seeing as WG haven't been overwhelmingly forthcoming about this I would assume that they are planning something that won't be very popular, despite anything they might say to the contrary. Still, it could be worse you could have been saving XP since the game was released for the RN line that now looks like it will be an abortion