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You could be killed in first few minds in old rts cvs and it happen to me enough times when the cv cross dropped you Flight times depend on plane level, captain skills and using boost so it is possible to get from one squad to the next squad quite quick but it still depends on plane numbers still on the cv and near end game your usually running damn low on them As I've said lots of times to cv haters "try them yourself" and learn the cv weakness so you can counter them

what I did when reworked cvs came out: first off play em to learn how to counter them as I have done with every class even when I didn't like that class find out actually they are not so boring anymore and I quite like em realise the rockets where overpowered against dds and the spotting was also crazy and I also was part of the forum that asked for that to be changed adapt my playstyle to use dive bombers on dds and then fall of my chair laughing my tits off at how much damage you can do if you get a perfect hit climb back on chair and take torp bombers for midway and get 6 torp hits on a bb for less than 12k mmm forget that crap then now its rockets and dbs and alternate to tb if I am low on planes and I know wg will nerf em again and again till nobody plays em we have a long way to go before I would agree cvs are perfectly balanced but then again we have bbs which blat all classes including dds and wg just keep buffing those fat boys

good dd players save their smoke to use against dbs good dd players leave aa off and turn towards the planes once they spot them good dd players stick within 5km of cruisers for aa support ^^^^^^^^^^^ those are the hard to hit dds that you struggle to damage all others meh your getting what you deserve if you wont alter your gameplay to the new meta

not money compensation but in game doubloons which when you have multiple premium ships and lots of tier 10 ships plus loads of 19 point captains the doubloons are a bit useless in my view

premiums should be no buffs and no nerfs because you get what you bought simple as that if after release its shown to be too powerful then remove from all sales, loot boxes ect ect and resign the ship to the few games it gets played in when a player who has it decides to take it out I haven't bought a thing since they announced the change and I used to spend between 30 to 40 quid each month on this game its money in my pocket at the moment but I have already purchased and played a few other games and wg either don't care about long term players who have spent a lot or they have a plan where they actually snub the ship purchase side of the player base either way good luck wg your gonna need it

nice idea but wg is making the game more simplified and arcade style gameplay and are about to release a patch that makes flooding more simple and easier to understand like fires so will probably never happen

Had a game other day where a dd wouldn't go to a open cap so I flew over it and proved to our dd it was clear and he still wouldn't cap and one of our cruisers did it Later in the game the useless dd got behind enemy to finally attack their cv and as usual he failed but he spammed hate to me because I didn't protect him when he ordered me to send my fighter squadron over him Damned idiot didn't even realise we can't control fighters anymore

Personally I feel its hit and miss at tier6 If enemy just pair up it don't mater what you do the aa bloom will wipe your planes If the cv is up teir then your screwed I really enjoy the new cv play but the damage you do is so low to other classes and the upteir problem is so painful even I am feeling its time to drop em

may as well stick em on and increase its aa seen as tier 5 struggles against tier 6 cvs as for the tier4 cvs meh wg don't care anyway and the aa on nearly all tier5 ships wipes tier4 planes anyway

I prefer the teir 8 Lexington of all the cvs ive played since the rework I got the midway and its torps are crap while its dive bombers are very good but are too easily wiped out the rockets are virtually useless unless you take the tiny tims to hit cruisers with overall the cvs are for me just another gimmick to play to change the gameplay style

We have had this type of whine forever Too many cvs a game Too many dds a game Too many bbs a game Mmmm seems nobody gives a crap how many cruisers cos they are food for most class's but let's remember if submarines get added we will have a new class to cry about

they don't face tier 4 pal as tier 4 is protected as such I find tier 6 more balanced than the tier 8 or 10

I enjoy the new cvs (I know I need a spanking for that) I believe the cvs in + - 2 mm are either too op when its the cv top tier or useless when its cv bottom tier and maybe some + - 1 mm should be added to them wg are either nerfing or buffing with a sledgehammer at the moment and as such its either killing cv play with certain ships and planes or not taking into account players will swap to another tactic and use those new skills they gain to do massive damage ie American dbs when they are hitting dds for crazy damage now don't get me wrong I think this new method is way way better than what we had before because a top down click and delete wasn't fun in my view to op you gotta start and spot for your team when you see a cluster of ships and best way is stay 8km away from the cluster and watch your team start and punish the enemy cruisers from range and the enemy will usually split and run in all directions trying to get to safety if your struggling with that tip or your team aint helping then its a case of waiting and don't take your best planes till slightly later in the game saving them for when you can make a difference in the game

if a single ship is on its own doing whatever it feels like then they deserve to be splatted by a cv same as when a dd catches a lone bb sailing alone also ships are supposed to be in groups as that way they use that thing whats it called now yea that's it sodding teamwork and if more people realised this is a team based game we wont have to worry over the crying player who gets wiped fast because they sail alone

thx for that I didn't know as I don't have a kaga got a saipan and is bloody hard to manage with plane losses at teir 10 that's for sure especially now where some enemy cruisers will delete them within a couple of seconds once you get spotted (looking at you mino ya plane hater)

spot on and a lot of people don't seem to realise this you start a game with a set amount on your ship approx. 1 and just over half a squadron worth of each type and then it takes approx. 1 min to 1 and a half mins to replace a lost plane which amounts to over a 20 min game getting between 15 and 20 planes back for each squadron a squad takes about 9 to 12 planes each time and if they get wiped fast after 5 mins you can be near plane less I am talking about tier 10 but tier 4 to 10 aint really any better and tier 4 is the worst ever for losing planes and taking full squads out

Won't happen especially now wg has vertually removed the ability to cv snipe and your limited now to the most useless fighter support to attack enemy planes with

What gets me is the view its low or risk free and because of this people want a way to directly damage the cv in some way because hey its not fair you sit at back of map and I can't hit you What about the bbs so far back cruisers ain't got a chance of hitting them The dds using stealth and never get spotted most of the game and stealth torp for fun Or the island spamming cruisers who sit there with little chance of being targeted Every class has plus and minus points and if you played em all you would see all need balancing fairly and all need the ability to do something unique ie bb tank, dds spot and cap, cruisers dd hunters and aa boats while cvs where Kent to spot and find the sucker who goes alone and punishes them Now we got the problem of nobody wants to be spotted by a cv as well as scream at their own to spot for them and if anyone gets caught alone they scream cvs are op cos they killed me Nice try op for thinking of something new but I don't think it would ever work

think wg mm is trolling you op because I mostly now only get cvs in games I play a cv also feels now like less cvs are in game than before the rework but that's just me personally but I very much doubt its a cv every game as op described

if we go on a rule of "if one class dominates another than it needs nerf" you would finally see the bbs nerfed because they are the most dominant class that can delete a cruiser with 1 salvo I also have said numerous times something needed doing to sort the cv v dd and yes wg did and did it in epic style but I said it needed nerfing because I had seen and played it from both sides and now its gone too far and made rockets the last squad you take unless your scouting also agreed with you and others about the stealth fire as it ruined some ships to keep a certain class and type of player happy and you got it spot on with the AA and this is one of the problems wg have ie add some skill to it through either a player through skill can dodge aa or other way where a skilled player can improve his AA and all you see is whine post on forum about how AA is broke if you think im on a high horse here then god help me cos im so low to the horse im buried in its crap I didn't like the old cv playstyle but still had the odd game but the new play style is better but its still not balanced properly and that goes for cvs getting mullered in higher tier games or ships getting mullered when the cv is 2 mm higher than them

I agree the feeling when your in a "normal" ship and getting attacked by a cv can be very frustrating the compare to wot is kinda screwed as in wot you cant shoot the arty shells before they hit you personally im kind of fed up that I get used to learning how to counter cvs and then wg go and change them in a patch and then you have to relearn how to avoid cv making a mess of your ship

the "I don't play class" is killing this game amount of times you see bb players crying over dds and cvs and yet if you look at their stats they have little to no games in dds and cvs and same goes for all classes all classes have been buffed nerfed and changed into things they never where when we played this game in closed beta and I understand that things have to change but listening to people argue and cry for change when they have hardly ever tried playing the classes they cry about is gonna kill this game if your unhappy about cvs and think they need a nerf go get yourself on the pts and test the cvs there and then see what its like being a cv player and same goes for all other classes ie if your a bb player sick to death of shimi spam torps then go play one pn pts and you will see it aint as easy as you think playing these ships that seem to be op when your facing them and before you ask then yes I play all classes and although I aint good in some I others I didn't like (old cv) I still played them at times to learn how to counter them a bit

Whatever happened to the "play a class" to learn to counter a class? I agree the dds had it worst after the rework and needed some help but the new hotfix has just about made rockets useless Maybe wg could remove rockets and give us more torp and dive bombers instead Also for all who play cvs and not tried it then take American dbs and attack dds with em and once you start and take half a dds health with 1 pass you realise how powerful they are and before anyone says Japanese dbs are crap don't bother as we all know nearly everything in Japanese cvs are now crap The over nerf and buff from wg is epic at the moment

anyone who plays all classes could see dds where in a bit of a bad place due to cvs rework and needed a bit of help but by god wg didn't just slightly nerf the cv play against dds they splatted it with the massive nerf bat

maybe put a time limit on the spotting at the start from a cv like the new radar but make it around 20 secs or so if a dd gets spotted and for 20 secs he has the ability to turn back towards aa support or to smoke up before rest of the enemy start unloading on him lots still need sorting and I now like how most games do not have a cv in them the removal of insta alpha strike to wipe any ship from the game whenever a cv felt like it is now gone and that has to be good for the game but cvs still need to be able to make a impact in the game same as any ship can and cvs main impact is spotting and being able to remove low health ships the ability to fly where you want and do what you want when your -2 is a massive problem just the same as when a cv gets +2 mm and he struggles to get even 1 salvo or torps or rockets off and dive bombers get deleted before they even drop when its +2 lots have promoted the + - 1mm and I agree it would help and it would also allow wg to bring back some premium/removed cvs into the odd tiers its also still early in the "live testing" of cvs and we need to give wg time to sort it out better than it is