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I ofcourse understand that there is an element of skill in this but like you yourself pointed out that until you reach say tier 7 BB your ship is to no small degree a sitting duck against torp bombers. The difference between this an onesalvoing an enemy in a BB and this is that the odds are pretty even when it comes to a situation like that, if im broadsiding you and your salvoning a perfect magazine hit on me most likely i have myself to blame as i have made to few course/speed adjustments (not counting luck ) When it comes to Citadel hits i think the amount of times you get them is ok just maybe a bit to effective when it comes to small guns vs very heavy citadel armor.

I think you guys are missing the point, Seinta: Att the moment it has only to do with the player being able to drop the torps from 50 meters in the air att about 100 meters out which simply put makes it absolutely impossible to dodge. If something is impossible it has nothing to do with my "skill" being able to dodge as turning away from or in any way changing my direction has no bearing whatsoever when someone drops torps 100 meters away from you. This was in now way a problem a week or so ago but has become one now. If nothing else it is stupid out of a realism perspective to see torp bombers 50 meters in the air drop torps straight down that magically come at you at a perfect spread. The only (and we have tried this like 50 times) time i have managed to dodge an attack like this is when my clannie completely messed up hence having absolutely nothing to do with me. So turning when you see them does nothing as they are being manually controlled, what you are saying is only appliable to autoattack not manual. Like i said in my OP i have no problems with torps themselves as they are surviable but not when they are not dodgable att all. Foche: We have in the last days seen this happening all the time, 120meters activation time does not help you even in the slightest when you are doing say 30 knots in a bb and they can drop a full spread straight out of the sky and hit every single one no matter if you are in a straight line or turning. Turning etc. has no impact whatsoever when the torpedos hit you due to the fact that you have ( and yes we have clocked this) about 2,5 seconds at the most to turn in a different direction. Please show me the BB that can turn away from anyting in 2.5 seconds First of as i said in my post we have tried this out several times so please in your wisdom tell me how to dodge a full spread coming att you from 100 meters in a BB with you having a response time of about 2.5 seconds. I once again repeat that this is only connected to people using MANUAL TARGETING not autoattack in which case i completely agree with all of you. "EDIT" Oh and by WE i am not reffering to myself in the third person Gryphonne but my clannies as you so brilliantly pointed out as i am not a carrier player.

"EDIT" One of my clanmates has pointed out that this might be a problem that has come after the last patch ( though it might have to do with the number of people using manual mode) Hi Guys im writing on behalf of me and my Clan. First of i would like to point out that this thread has no bearing whatsoever on DDs as i think they work fine with their torps atm, i have no problems dodging or staying alive against DDs unless i have myself to blame or meet an excellent DD player that simply outskills me. My problem has directly to do with the manual aiming of torpedo bombers. Using a BB and meeting a seasoned player that has learned to manually aim his torp planes is really becoming a Game breaker for me as they can launch a full spread of torpedos right in my side att about 20-30 meters which makes it physically impossible to dodge no matter what kind of battleship you are using. Yes i understand lets say a Fuso can withstand one to maybe even two full spreads before it sinks and in a perfect world cruisers would be att my side to rain hell upon enemy planes (and we all know how often that happens) as it is now i simply stand no chance whatsoever. Its not a case of torps themselves being OP because i think they are quite balanced damagewise but rather that it is 100% procent impossible to dodge a manual attack. I have nothing against the autoattack (i mean when it works like it should) as being hit with the autoattack is to no small extent my own fault for not paying attention but please fix so that torpedo bombers running in manual mode have restrictions that atleast follow some thread of realism. Apart from that grievance all i can say is thumbs up from me and my clanmates as the game itself rocks