ShinGetsu

I did a couple of battle with my current grind this evening (Tashkent and Donskoi, yeah, I'm on the russians lately) and all the battle I were in were the same : - 5 BB per team - 4 or 5 DD per team - sometimes 1 CV - Never more than 2 cruisers. Seriously, how is that supposed to work ? I know my idea isn't perfect and you showed me why, but clearly something HAVE to change. And I think one of the thing that should happen is a rollback on all those BB that got their citadel lowered. Broadsiding isn't as punished as it was. Well, playing Donskoi, I stay at 16-18km range until I find the opportunity to come closer and radar DDs, and it seems to work quite well. But I'd rather not have to do the same with my other cruisers as well...

And so, how to do this ? Do you have anything to propose ? I'm genuinely interested, it's not sarcasm. More BB, yeaaaah. Well, the French BB line should come too at some point this year. But I don't think adding BBs lines after BB lines in an already heavy BB-meta would be a great idea... Especially since Richelieu will have 4x2 guns in the bow in tier 8.

*shrug* What does the game need, then ? Yes, cruisers are not supposed to counter BBs. I agree on this. But currently we need something, anything, that would help reduces the overflow of BB/DD in high tier battle, and Make Cruisers Great Again™. And I thought the French cruisers would be a good opportunity in that regard.

En vrai il y a pas besoin de grand chose en plus : suffit de passer l'armure frontale à 30mm, lui filer un meilleur temps de basculement au gouvernail et enlever 1s de reload. Avec 30mm de frontal il craindra les HE mais encaissera les AP de tous les BB sauf Yamato.

Le tier X a des stats littéralement minables.J'espérais voir un CA avec des canons pour taper les BB et une armure capable de les encaisser, histoire qu'on puisse combattre un peu l'hégémonie des BB haut tier. Mais non. En l'état il est juste inférieur en tout au Moskva et ses canons sont des tromblons. Tout ça pour 6 torpilles et un boot moteur. WG a VRAIMENT intérêt à le buffer. Puis le "rapide"... si ils faisaient tous 35 noeuds, ok. Mais là la moitié plafonne à 31. Bon, les tiers 6-7-8 ont l'air cool. J'espère juste fortement que WG réalise que cequ'il faut actuellement ce sont des croiseurs anti-BB etles français sont la branche idéale pour ça. Peut-être qu'on peut tenter de faire remonter l'idée ?

Moskva need a specific captain anyway. MK is a trainer for the rest of the cruiser line. If you plan to keep a RU cruiser like Budyonni or Donskoi, It can shares the captain with Kutuzov no problem.

Of course Kutuzov have downsides. But you are talking as if it is a terrible ship, which is totally wrong. I got Kutuzov a bit too early and I'm working on improving my stats on it now. It doesn't change the factit is very very strong in the right hands.

It's even better for Izumo/Yamato when you add the reload module. At 20% health you got a 16% bonus DPM, which means from 30 seconds you get 25.2s reload. Add it the module (12%) and you get 22s reload. NC, Iowa and Montana either can't use the reload module or use the 11% accuracy which is arguably even better, but that doesn't change the fact you win a great deal of DPM with AR on ships that have very good survivability. And AR also works for the secondary battery, which is interesting on german and IJN BBs too.

Welp, I never posted here. I'm not a KC player, but some of my clan are, and I enjoy the character design and the voice acting of several. If I had to talk about some of my shipfu, I'd say : Isokaze : nicknamed Saberkaze thanks to her voice acting, I really like her overall design, she's kinda the "big sister of the destroyers" Kako, but only the kai ni design. Kiso. Badass cape, badass sword, badass lines, and a Megumin-like eyepatch, what's there not to like ? Also I have a bit of a weakness for those two !

20-50k damage ? Lately it's more like 90-120k each time I go into battle with my MK. I just love how you put yourself in your unicum pedestal, "look, I KNOW". I may have 56%WR; but I can say for sure I absolutely love my MK, and that ship is basically a monster in the right hands. IFHE skills allows to do tremendous damage to anything you may fight, balistic and smoke allows MK to pop smoke at 12-15km (which means way out of most torpedoes range), and anyway any player that knows what he's doing is smoking near a cover. Facts are : MK is a great damage dealer, much easier to use in tier 10 battle than Atago thanks to the smoke and the gun range, it has good torpedoes, and in the worst case you can just zigzag at 15-17km while still spamming. And let's not forget the awesome 152mm AP that punch holes at anything getting closer than 12km. Btw you may be "unicum" but you're not that great in high tier battle. I don't think you should talk too much about MK when you reach 53%WR with NC and 49% with Iowa, with damage stats comparable or lower to mine. Thanks your Königsberg (and MK, lol, your stats are high for a "bad ship") for your winrate.

Lol

AP can be capricious. Especially on papercruisers. Doing moee than 2-3 citadel hit per salvo isn't that easy. Also I'm not engaging cruisers at close range given how this DD doesn't turn. But yeah, maybe I should work on my aim. Actually I already know that, but it's easier said than done. Still doesn't change the fact this ship is as broken as it is fun.

This ship is hilarious. Hilariously broken. Even in tier 7 all I have to do is sail at max speed at 10-11km and spam. With the poor protection against fire of low tier BBs, almost every salvo is a fire starter. I just did a 45k damage battle in tier 7 like that, without even trying hard. And when top tier, this floating piece of crap just rolls over everything in its path. I'm not even talking about DD duel. Even a tier 6 doesn't stand a chance as long as the Okhotnik uses its range. With AFT it reach 11km. With the same freaking HE as Tashkent and one gun more ! Torps are fun, but you can quite easily manage an already good game without them. The torps are mostly there for trolling newbies in BBs that never learned how to react against a rushing DD. Honestly, give it 1k HP more, 2 knots more, 0.5-1km more range, and get it to tier 6. It's waaaaay too strong for the tier 5 atm. Even in tier 6 it would be broken in facts. I don't even have CE yet, since I'm using my 12 points Tashkent captain with AFT & DE, but when I'll have it...

Hmm. Pire rayon de giration du jeu. Précision très aléatoire. Armure troll, mais blindage des tourelles en carton (elles se KO avec des 203 de croiseur), et broadside il prend super cher. (Et de face le Yamato le pwn) Incendie ambulant.

EDIT : Oups, bug.

T'es tellement ignorant des mécaniques du jeu que je me demande d'où tu la sort ta crédibilité. En fait t'es MOINS crédible qu'un tomato qui essayerait d'apprendre à jouer avec tes whine. Avec ton truc sur la dispersion je te mets au niveau de ThinderChief là. On dirait vraiment un gamin qui pleure au lieu de chercher à comprendre. Relis tes post mec. C'est du pur caprice puéril que tu nous fait dans tes posts. En attendant un GK broadside c'est du 30k que je leur fait en Yamato, moi.

Problème d'interface chaise clavier. Oui il y a beaucoup de DD par partie, mais il y a aussi beaucoup trop de BB. C'est franchement de la très, très mauvaise foi de prétendre qu'en BB en tier 10 on ne peut rien faire. C'est jouer croiseur qui est difficile actuellement.

J'en ai rien à carrer de tes stats. Sérieux t'as tellement AUCUN recul sur le jeu que c'est à se demander comment tu les as obtenues. Tu parles comme un tomato 45% WR. C'est ton grand frère qui joue, ça se passe comment ? Non GK n'est pas OP pour n'importe quel joueur qui sait viser. Oui Montana et Yamato sont plus précis que GK. Maintenant tu te tais un peu au lieu de chialer et t'apprends à les affronter. Insupportable de lire un gamin pareil. A la niche.

T'es nul alors. J'ai mis des devast à max range en Iowa. Des trucs genre 35-40k à 23km. Ferme la un peu, franchement. T'es juste mauvais.

Sauf qu'il y a un upgrade de dispersion à 11% sur le Montana. Et il y a un meilleur sigma sur la dispersion verticale, ce qui veut dire moins de risque d'encadrer. L'Iowa et le Montana sont parmi les BB les plus précis du jeu. C'est comme ça.

Hahaha, le niveau de troll est magnifique. Très bien fait lol. Ça aurait presque pu être sérieux, mais le radar c'est le truc de trop qui donne le ton du post.^^

This ship is hilariously broken. Someone in my clan gifted me one, and I'm having shameless fun sealclubbing noobs with it. Be it stupid yolo-rush on newbie battleships that doesn't know how to react, deletion of tier 4 and 5 cruisers with AP (killed a Svetlana with THREE freaking salvoes. 7k each time !), and HE basically as powerful as Tashkent, in tier 5, where all BB have horrible fire protection... And let's not forget that with AFT you reach 11km range. And shells travels there in 7 seconds. Other DDs simply doesn't stand a chance. I just got torped twice stupidly (and that was after 20-25k damage done anyway), but as long as I don't make the same mistake, that ship is OP. Also it seems to have quite the friendly matchmaking. Pair it with a Nikolai or a Kongo that knows what he's doing, and you sink the whole enemy team by yourself. Ah, dealing with good CV can be kinda annoying too. But with the upcoming "no-manual drop" on tier 4 and 5 CV, it will be even worse for the poor enemies. xD My only issue is that I don't have the ideal captain on it right now. Either I use my Kutuzov captain with CE, but also with IFHE and no AFT nor Last Stand (a bit meh), or I uses my Tashkent captain without Superintendent nor CE yet. I'm using the Tashkent captain atm. I thought not having EM would be a handicap, but with those 360° turrets it's not even the case. xD

NC is my favourite, tho I like my Tirpitz quite a bit too.^^ (Amagi was fine, but I don't find it as fun as the other two/three) NC's balistic need to get the hang of it, cause the shells have very high arcs and takes forever to hit at longer range, but it is quite accurate, deadly at middle range and close range, is fast, and with the proper captain skill you got a real tank. I specced mine with Fire Prevention, AFT, Basic of Survivability, Adrenaline Rush, Superintendent for the main skills, mostly because it's my ship for competition, and in competitive gameplay CV spots you no matter your concealment. I still have a concealment of around 13km and that's already very, very good. With all the bonus added, you can drop it as low as 11.8km and that's quite brutal in random matches. You just have to drop Fire Prevention for CE. Also your captain can stay with this setup for Iowa. Iowa is even more accurate thanks to the -11% upgrade, is faster, have even stronger AA, and can drop as low as 12.3km of spotting range. Catching a cruiser offguard at this distance basically mean a Devastating Strike. I never did so many citadel hits with any other BB I think only the Terminator Nikolai can compete.^^ And get Adrenaline Rush ASAP. This skill is incredibly strong for bow-tanker like NC, Iowa or Yamato.

Ishizuchi aussi...

Honestly I'm not even surprised. When I see the depressing amount of BB captains using Survivability Expert (the skill for more health) on tier 9 and 10 Battleships... I don't know, it's not like it is already hard to give up on some skills when I do a build for battleship, and there are idiots that pick the most useless tier 3 skill for a BB...