ShinGetsu

Amagi got her citadel buffed, NC got her citadel lowered, I think Warspite got buffed too, and Izumo got a huge buff in armor with her latest remodel. Also Alabama isn't even released for standard players yet and they'll buff her citadel height too. Even Tirpitz (and by extension Bismarck since it's the same armor scheme) got her armor buffed once because she had gap in her armor, and citadel could happens through them.

Je sais pas, j'ai vraiment l'impression de rien faire. Je suis trop habitué aux DD bas tiers qui collent de belles claques en HE (Bly, Shino...) malgré un reload plus long. Et quand tu fais rien-rien-rien-rien-rien-incendie (aussitôt éteint) -rien-rien-rien-rien-rien-rien-incendie (éteint 20s après parce que le temps de spam l'autre il a eu le temps de reset son CD sur sa DCP)... Bah ça score pas quoi. J'aime vraiment pas me baser sur le RNG pour faire du score.

Bof. Autant tenter de faire la course au DPM et d'essayer de faire du 1:1 en K/D pour les chasseurs, c'est plus intelligent que de ne rien faire en dégâts pendant que l'autre se gave. L'AS est pas suffisant pour empêcher de strike, et contre un gros joueur ça fera la différence dix fois plus. Franchement entre faire 25k dmg de diff parce que t'as tenté de faire la course au strike et que t'as perdu, et faire 100k de diff parce que t'as rien fait à part balancer des chasseurs, tandis que l'autre a réussi à passer 4 strike, voilà voilà... Je parle des dgts mais c'est pareil sur le dégommage de DD hein. Et c'est pas le sujet. Pourquoi je répond sérieusement moi ?

T'oublies un avantage énorme des 12 torps : torpiller une smoke. J'ai fait le coup à un Fubuki hier : il a smoké et tirait depuis sa smoke. Je me suis approché tranquillou sans me faire spot et j'ai balancé les 12 poissons en vrac. Ça a fait boum.

I just spent a whole battle kiting one Iowa, a Zao and a Bismarck with Donskoi at long range. And while I was franctically dodging high-caliber salvoes one after another, the Iowa actually had the galls to tell me "coward donskoi sniping". I guess I should have just showed my broadside and die like a good practice target. Too bad, we won, I survived and did 90k damage.

Henri IV dispersion is exactly the same as Kutuzov it seems. Kutuzov have the same 165m dispersion for 19.1km range.

That would make all gunboat DD useless in tier 9 and 10 battle. In particular the russian that only can do score through fire on bigger target...

The 500k AA upgrade is because... well, there's nothing better to use in this slot, since the accuracy module is pretty much useless on cruisers. Gun range is indeed 17km, but you got railguns there, and the whole line is made of sniper cruisers. As I said, you can either use the reload module or the range module, depending on your preference. I find the range more interesting, that's all. I don't like being specced in AA, so I won't take the +25% AA DPS. The build above is good, but IFHE is a skill so strong on 152 and 180mm I highly suggest you get it. Your DPM will shot through the roof with it. I uses the concealment upgrade combined with CE btw, The spotting range is at 12.3km with the camo added, if I remember well. It's important to have both because your radar go as far as 11.7km, and the later you are spotted, the better it is. I can just screen you my upgrade if you wants to.

I go with AA def, since I got radar for deleting DDs, and I'm not trying to get closer than my spotting range. Also its AA DPS isn't bad, but you need defensive fire to be really dangerous if a CV wants you dead. For the upgrades, I go with AA range for the 500k upgrade, Gun range for the 3m upgrade (tho Main gun reload is a good option too), 20% ruddershift, and concealment mod1 for the most important ones. For the captain skill, I'm using my Kutuzov captain and I plan to have this at 19 points : http://shipcomrade.com/captcalc/1100001000100000000001100010000119 Be aware that this build isn't good for the Moskva. IFHE and isn't interesting at all for the 220mm guns. You should either have to respec your captain when you'll get Moskva, or train a new captain altogether. As for the gameplay... stay far. You have shitty handling, but your guns are accurate, with one of the best balistic ingame, and they hurts quite a lot no matter the range (esp with IFHE skill). You have to make yourself not worth to shot at. So you stay far, angled, and zigzaguing at max speed while you spam HE and AP. When the opportunity arise, get a little closer to a DD in his smoke while being still a) angled b) unspotted, and radar them to oblivion. The short duration of the radar means you have to make sure you have all your gun on where the DD is supposed to be, and you also better warn your team when you want to use your radar, so that your target is sure to die. Do not hesitates to switch to AP on broadside cruisers (no matter the range), and on broadside BBs (at less than 12km range), you will hurts them quite a lot. Two days ago, a cute Belfast smoked before me at 7.6km, while I had AP loaded. He got immediately spotted with radar and got a nice little salvo of 22.000 damage, before dying thanks to an allied BB. x)

Mon Iowa est pas build resist.^^ J'ai même pas encore BoS. Les seuls trucs qui m'aident à tank sont AR et SI. J'ai le ruddershift mod1 donc même pas l'amélioration anti-flood et incendie.

J'avoue que j'ai encore un peu de mal avec cette bestiole, même full. Il est clairement pas fait pour caper en early, mais si j'aide pas, les autres DD alliés se suicident et personne ne push. Faudrait que je le joue en division en fait, il est trop dépendant du facteur "équipe de [censuré]" pour que je m'amuse vraiment avec. Et il est tellement gros qu'il prend juste trop cher en AP. C'est insupportable. >< Je pense que je vais le vendre quand j'aurais débloqué le Khaba, le t10 m'a l'air vraiment meilleur quand même.^^ Les dégâts en HE minables qui obligent de baser tout son DPM sur les incendies, qui sont donc ultra dépendant du RNG, c'est pas mon truc non plus d'ailleurs... Quand je vois le spam de malade qu'il faut que je fasse, genre 60-70 coups pour un feu, nice quoi...

I'm using IFHE on Donskoi too tho (same captain as Zov), and it works wonder. With it the 180 are "just" above the armor value of the side armor of high tier US BBs, so you not only melt Yamatos, Izumo, 25mm bows and cruisers, but also high-tier US BBs, and it always help against germans too. Right now my Kutuzov captain got PT, EM, Superintendent (more smoke for Kutuzov, more Radar and Repair for Donskoi), DE, CE, IFHE, and I'll finish with IFA and PM. This captain went on Kirov, Budyonny, Shchors, and now Donskoi, and IFHE with CE and DE is a really strong combination for the whole line. IMO Moskva is clearly the only one that needs a specific captain since IFHE is useless for 220mm, and I want to add AR and BoS (or BFT) on it.

The other option for the Henri could be, as someone pointed above, to make it a pseudo-Scharnhorst : stya with the 25mm bow armor, but give it a good side armor and deck armor so that it can bounce shells when well angled. With the engine boost and the good forward angle for the torpedoes it would be great for aggressive playstyle, another thing the high-tier game badly need. Well, anyway that is still one cruiser out of 6. I think most of the arguments there are right on some points. I find myself agreeing with different idea there, even when they are contradictory. Yes, CA shouldn't counter BBs. But they shouldn't only be able to fight them properly only when there is a huge skill gap between the CA and the BB. Especially when a good BB player can fight quite well against a good DD player. As I said before, currently I'm playing Donskoi to get Moskva, and as much as I love this cruiser and its railgun, I find myself playing at 17-18km range to make myself an unappealing target, so that I'm not focused down and killed in 2 or 3 BB salvoes at most. And when a stray, badly aimed shell that randomly hit me at the rear does a miraculous citadel... I'm not exactly pleased.

Leur survivabilité broadside est ridicule et attire tous les noobs, c'est juste insupportable. Hier en Iowa je tankais un FdG, un Iowa et un Bismarck en me servant d'une île. Leur Iowa jouais pas mal, en jouant bow-on et en cherchant les meilleurs angles de tirs pour me flinguer. Les deux allemands ? Yolo-broadside, je leur mettais du 10-25k par salves mais ça avait pas l'air de les gêner. D'un autre côté si c'était un Iowa ou un NC qui jouais comme ça, je les sortais en 3 salves maximum selon mon RNG sur les obus et ma visée, et plus probablement 2... J'ai fini la partie avec Dreadnough et 4 de mes 5 heals bouffés, d'ailleurs... Avec 4 navires pour me spammer. Les BB survivent juste beaucoup trop facilement.

Bah si tu joues beaucoup à longue distance et que tu prends des coups (déjà c'est que tu te plantes quelque part si en Myoko tu n'arrive pas à caler tes torpilles derrière toi), mais ensuite c'est AR + IFA qui te seraient le plus profitable... Bieeeen plus que 2500 HP. C'est juste même pas comparable, c'est un gâchis de point total.

Kyu, le MM standard en partie tier 9/10, c'est 10BB, 10DD, et 1CA + 1CV ou 2CA. J'ai bien fait attention au MM hier et c'est vraiment la tendance. Ça s'équilibre seulement quand les tiers 8 sont majoritaires dans la partie. C'est juste pas normal. Et c'est révélateur du fait que les croiseurs sont vraiment galères à jouer dans ce genre de meta. Et en plus avec seulement 2 CA ils sont largement plus souvent focus. Au bout d'un moment faut faire quelque chose pour rendre les CA plus attractifs quoi. Perso je serais d'avis de virer tout ces consommables débiles sur les BB/DD. Out l'AA boost sur les DD, out l'hydro sur les BB allemands, et out le radar sur le Black et le Missouri. Rendez l'exclusivité des consommables AA et anti-DD aux croiseurs. C'est leur boulot. Le fait que les CA tier 10 sont performants n'est pas la question. La question c'est qu'ils ont perdu une grande partie de leur utilité en bataille, et que les BB sont beaucoup trop nombreux. Déjà de base, faudrait un hardcap à 3DD par camps, parce que 4 et 5 c'est même pas marrant pour eux.

Statistic wise, I'm best at tier 7-8. I like playing tier 9 and 10, and my favourite ship is tier 9 (Iowa), but I find the meta a little boring, and tier 8 is globally more interesting. I would looove mostly playing tier 5 and 6, but the current matchmaking is screwing them way too much. I almost stopped playing Dunkerque because of this. Tho grinding Budyonny wasn't hard, and I still like playing Shinonome sometimes. Tier 5 is the same. I found the Kirov highly enjoyable, but the constant tier 7 battle is just... no, just no. Lately the only tier 5 I'm playing is Okhotnik and that's because that ship is so blatantly overpowered it even behave fine in tier 7 matches. Bring back a normal matchmaking in tier 5 and 6, and that would be my favourite tier. Especially in cruisers, since I had fun in almost all of tier 6 CA/CLs : Budyonny, Aoba, Nürnberg, Leander...

Remove that absurdity of max +1 for tier 4 ships. Who cares if they suffer, we sell them within 15 battle anyway. Bring back the fun in tier 6.

Re-thinking about it, 18-19 seems logical for the sisters.^^

Wut. Et le reload des torpilles ? Et BFT ? Ou même Vigilance qui est bien plus utile que de choper 2500 PV en plus... Et t'as pas songé à mettre 2+1 aussi ? Genre AU HASARD Adrenaline Rush + Incoming Fire Alert ? Sérieux je peux même pas comprendre comment on peut songer prendre cette compétence sur autre chose qu'un DD tellement ça sacrifie de skill utiles... Surtout en cuirassé quoi. Si c'était possible j'aurais BFT, AFT, CE, Manual AA, Manual Secondaries, SI, FP, Vigilance et BoS... Là-dedans y a 5 skills 4 points...

If you think there is a girl behind each female avatar you see in this forum, you're in for a very, very big disappointment. Most of us are either using Kancolle characters (A strange online japanese game where WW2 ships are personified as teenage girls and young women), or simply characters from artwork we like. There is only a handful of girls in WoWS.^^

A broadside Bismarck at close or middle range against a North Carolina will eat around 15-25k damage with a well aimed salvo. Without citadel hits. And that's only with the two forward turrets. NC is favored in tournament because : - It got very, very strong 406mm rifles. You need to learn to use the weird balistic, but that's the only downside of them really. - It is more accurate than Bismarck/Tirpitz. - It is very good at bow-tanking and even angled it can tank quite easily. With a properly specced captain you really can last a while alive even with some spamming on you. - It is fast enough. (27knots) - It got very good concealment (it's more a gimmick for FFA tho) - It got very, very strong AA even without being particularly specced in it. - It's the only one at this tier that got 2 out of 3 turrets at the bow. Bismarck/Tirpitz got 50% of them, and Amagi got 2/5 turrets. Bismarck 380 are good guns, but they really lack accuracy and penetration when you have to deal with a properly angled BB. While the 406 with a bit of luck can drop some shells on the deck, and they have very good penetration power. IJN 410 are also very strong tho. Amagi is quite equal to NC in that regard. As Negativv said, it's underperforming in FFA because it's not a ship for potato players, unlike Bismarck which is very easy to play. Yet when you understood how to uses it, it's rather overwhelming...

Perso c'est mon capitaine de Tashkent qui va dessus. Donc AFT et DE, mais pas encore CE ni SI. Par contre Dieu que ce truc est OP. C'est juste hallucinant.^^

Lel. L'arty à barillet... bon, c'est une arty quoi. L'AMX30B c'est un char tier 10 standard, bon mais sans plus. Le Bat25t c'est un excellent char, monstrueux dans de bonnes mains. Le 50B c'est le meilleur char du tier 10, period. Le truc il a tout pour lui. Le F155 au contraire c'est pas loin d'être le pire TD du jeu. Il a juste du bol que le FV4005 lui vole la place de la nullité absolue. Et il y a de nouveaux lights tiers 10 aussi, récemment. J'ai pas suivi l'affaire tho, le fait qu'ils m'aient passé mon T49 en t10 sans aucune compensation est clair et net : je foutrais plus les pieds sur ce jeu. J'ai cru comprendre que le light FR était passable sans plus. Et en prime, encore en haut tier ça va, mais les français sur WoT sont réputés pour être des purges totales à bas tier, et ils sont passés par plusieurs cycles de buff/nerf en prime...

For the Kongou ? 16-17 at most. I'd give 20-21 to Yamato, Musashi, Mutsu and Nagato, but clearly less for the Kongou class. On the same topic, I'd give 19-20 to Bismarck, but 16-17 to Eugen. :x