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Both Roma and Richelieu are going to be good contender, and I think they will actually be nicely balanced. They will have a citadel higher than water, but you will need some penetration power to punch through the armor (very high belt armor on Roma and turtleback though with bad angles on Richelieu), and that's totally fine. Roma will be stealthy with railguns, but not devoid of weaknesses, in particular in the AA department. Richelieu will be insanely fast, with overall great guns and all the firepower in front, but everything else is kind of average. The AA is powerful but short ranged and fragile (lot of single mount 20mm), and if the current stat stays, the ruddershift will be meh and the torpedo protection won't protect her. So only a mobile playstyle will work. Those two will add something interesting I think. Like Kii their mistakes will be punishable, but proper gameplay will allows to do great.

Yamato isn't a joke at all. That ship is still going strong. Tankiness, very good accuracy, lolpens and workable concealment are valuable no matter the changes of the game.

Les mécaniques de smoke ont changé ma cocotte. Si tu te tenais au courant, tu te rendrais compte que dorénavant tu as aussi un malus de discrétion au tir dans la fumée. Et si tu regardais ta minimap, tu t'en serais rendu compte. Hors smoke, la détection augmente au niveau de la portée des canons, dedans c'est inférieur. Ça se voit nan ? C'est sur ta minimap. Le trait bleu pointillé.

N'empêche que 134 horizontale ne tient pas debout parce qu'on sait la dispersion horizontale maximale d'Amagi meilleure à distance égale. Richelieu : Accuracy   Sigma 1.80σ   Horizontal Dispersion 134   Vertical Spread 348 Amagi : Accuracy   Sigma 1.80σ   Horizontal Dispersion 165   Vertical Spread 605 Y a une typo quelque part pour moi. Je vois plutôt 170 pour Richelieu et dans les 500 verticale au minimum.

La dispersion horizontale elle-même est fausse, Amagi en a une meilleure de base. Et la verticale dépend de l'horizontale, c'est proportionnel.

I'm pretty sure it's Hibike! Euphonium. Anime about a wind concert band in highschool. Well, that's Kyoto Animation anyway, always deliver with the chara design. Their next show seems to be dope too. (Violet Evergarden) __________ I bought Nelson, but right now I'm also waiting for a freepex cruiser...

Martel est un standard en compétition t8 maintenant. Il remplace avantageusement Atago sur une grande partie des maps.

That would be so unbelievably stupid. I can understand buying Nelson because it's pretty unique, and overall fun and well balanced.

La longueur agit sur le rayon de giration, pas le gouvernail. Tous les autres BB t8 ont une longueur comparable à Richelieu, et tous ont 15 secondes de gouvernail environ.

Champagne is better. It's believable considering we have Normandie and Bretagne, and we're gonna love the reference to the alcohol. x)

Le gouvernail je suis sûr qu'il est dans les 15 secondes de base comme sur Sea-group. En kiting il peut tirer en offrant 36 degrés d'angle. Mais à mon avis il sera surtout excellent en tant que flanker capable de se transformer en bow-tank. Attention, flood coeff c'est diminution des chances de flooding, pas des dégâts des torpilles. C'est lié mais pas la même chose.

Je pensais à AFT+CE, avec PT, AR, EM, Surintendant, et en dernier soit BoS soit Vigilance. Faut voir aussi que le boost moteur donne un énorme coup de fouet à l'accélération et, dans le cas du +20% français, au freinage. Henri IV s'arrête net avec le boost. Richelieu aura forcément plus d'inertie mais il devrait rester assez impressionnant sur ce point. Par contre module gouvernail devant tout le reste pour moi. En fin de partie tu as AR pour le gain en DPM, Sofia.

J'aurais vu un conso plus standard à +8% ou +10% et en échange une protection de torpilles à 40% personnellement... On pourrait mettre 49% comme l'Alabama mais au vu des caractéristiques de la coque ça me paraîtrait un peu trop fort. Déjà qu'il devrait être en mesure d'éviter la plus grande partie des torpilles...

I am pretty sure Duke of York will be a special ship for the next tier 7 operation. A BB without any heal wouldn't make sense in a standard battle. For Richelieu turtleback, indeed the angle isn't very good, but it's very similar to Dunkerque in that regard, while being much, much thicker. The citadel is over the water, but not that much. And with that belt, as long as you don't go full broadside I'm pretty sure it doesn't fear much. However Richelieu should - if WG does it right - be punishable for showing too much broadside. That will limit her flanking ability but makes her more skill dependant. (And yeah, Lyon is kind of horrible. However as long as Richelieu is good I actually kind of don't care about anything else. Gimme Richie.)

Alors du coup j'ai cherché, pour NC y a : 5km - 689mm 10km - 577mm 15km - 484mm 20km - 396mm Et Richelieu : 5km - 641 10km - 552 15km - 480 20km - 414 C'est très comparable à NC ce qui est excellent. Du coup je sais pas où ça se situe par rapport à Bismarck vu que les courbes sont pas très précises.

Here are Sea-groups stats of Richelieu with full hull... : Sooo : - The top hull is exactly what I was expectedit to be (ruddershift and HP in particular). EXCEPTED THOSE GODDAMN 19% TDS. - The armor belt is the strongest of tier 8 with 320mm, Bismarck got 315 and is the second best. Also Richelieu will get a turtleback if the historical armor scheme is respected, though like Dunkerque it doesn't make it immune at all and is pretty much citadel-able at close range. Still the protection should be not bad at all. - 25km gun range is kind of stupid, we don't need another ship for braindead campers, but well, I kind of don't care apart from that. As long as I get more than 18.5km... - The accuracy is pretty ok with 12.5 m/km horizontal dispersion and 1.8 sigma. Especially considering it can mount the -7% horizontal dispersion module unlike NC. I think it will be inferior to NC but better than Alabama basically. - The AA is strong but AFT is mandatory given the horrible range and since all the DPS is in the short range. However those 48x1 20mm will melt quickly to any HE spamming. I guess that's a form of balancing. - The ship is stupidly fast with that engine boost of 20%. 38.4 knots without flag, 40.32 with. - Concealment is pretty ok. In between the japanese and the germans. (12.57km with full mod, camo and captain skill) - Secondaries are kind of garbage, but I never expected any better personnally. Overall, I'd say : quite a good contender. Nerf the engine boost to more reasonable level (like +10%) and buff the TDS instead and it will be probably ok.

Les stats de la coque, hors protection anti-torps, sont exactement ce que j'en attendais : 15.6 de gouvernail, 65k HP... (J'ai ri aux 25km de portée, vous la voyez venir la campe ?) 12.43 m/km c'est bien. C'est autant que les US en gros, meilleur que les allemands. Il y a que 1.8 de sigma, mais contrairement à NC et Alabama le Richelieu pourra porter le module -7% de dispersion donc il doit y gagner au final. En comptant les 7% il tombe à 292.02m de dispersion horizontale maximum, soit 11.56 m/km. Je pense qu'au final on aura un truc proche du NC et meilleur qu'Alabama. On a pas les 2.0 de sigma du NC mais le module compense. La pénétration me parait impressionnante. Quelqu'un aurait les valeurs de NC, Amagi et de Yamato pour comparer ?

Hindenburgh is the answer honestly. A bit on the slow side but very tanky (underwater citadel, high HP and 27mm bow), impressive gun punch, very decent AA. DM can be tanky too. Moskva is less tanky than most player think. At lower tier there are Hipper and Cleveland.

Yeah but I actually doubt WG will be smart enough for this.

Well. Forget everything. I think that's actually a complete fake. That was posted on our Discord and I didn't check my sources before posting. Nothong on WG devblog. SORRY. I go hide myself in a hole.

ST, French battleship Voltaire, tier X Hit points - 92700, plating - 32 mm, belt - 350 mm. Main battery - 4x4 380 mm. Firing range - 24 km. HE damage - 5400, AP damage - 11900. Reload time 30 s., 180 degree turn time - 36 s., maximum dispersion - 300 m. HE initial velocity - 830 m/s. AP initial velocity - 830 m/s. Sigma count - 2.0. Maximum speed - 34kt. Turning circle radius - 950 m., rudder shift time - 19.5 s. Surface detectability - 17.7 km, air detectability - 14.5 km. Detectability after firing main guns in smoke - 17.8 km. Anti-torpedo defense damage reduction -29%. Available consumables: Slot 1 - Damage Control Party Slot 2 - Repair Party Slot 3 - Spotting Aircraft, Catapult Fighter Slot 4 - Engine Boost All stats are listed without crew and upgrade modifiers. EDIT : Forget it. I think that is actually a massive fake. I found it believable but no sources confirm it. Would be nice if that was true though.

Non mais stop flipper c'est ridicule là. Primo on a des stats stock. Comparez au Roma vous verrez à quoi Richie full doit ressembler en terme de coque. D'ailleurs Roma a aussi 30s de reload sur les 380. Secundo la dispersion annoncée du Richelieu est pas du tout tromblon. C'est à mi-chemin entre jap et US et j'ai jamais eu l'impression que Kii comme NC sont franchement imprécis. Surtout que Richie profite d'une meilleure balistique évidente par rapport à NC. Et encore selon Affeks forum uk il est possible que Richie change de vélocité d'obus parce que ceux de la coque stock sont ceux d'avant refit. Il y a eu du changement par la suite. Tertio trente secondes de reload c'est certes moins bien que Bismarck mais Richelieu n'est pas obligé d'ouvrir l'angle à mort pour s'en servir, lui. Quatro on verra pour le blindage. Vu la tendance de WG à planquer les citadelles... Cinq, les secondaires on s'en tape totalement. J'sais pas ce que vous avez à espérer des secondaires OP mais perso avoir l'armement automatique qui fait le job à ma place ça m'emballe vraiment pas. L'intérêt des 380 en chasse c'est justement de pouvoir suivre une cible facilement sans se taper le grand tour. Quand à la dissimulation, elle est dans la moyenne. On verra aux tests de toute façon. Mais là en supposant qu'il est stock il est largement au niveau du tier 8. Sûr et certains.

Clearly... No. Mino radar is only good if you have someone to smoke for you. Way too situational, even after smoke nerf.

Assuming stock hull of Richie is the one we have the stats right now, I'd say it looks quite promising and probably won't requires much adjustement. It's very far from the initial Henri IV stats with no AA, 17 seconds reload, a bug in the AP Krupp, garbage HE and useless speed boost (instead of the current 44 knots monster for 4 minutes we have now) I'm more pessimist for Lyon actually. But I'm also biased because that design is ugly.

Well, ST stats of Richelieu, and the image they gave us the other day, they listed the speed as 32 knots. ST, French battleship Richelieu, tier VIII. Hit points - 54500, plating - 32 mm, belt - 330 mm. Main battery - 2x4 380 mm. Firing range - 23 km. HE damage - 5400, AP damage - 11900. Reload time 30 s., 180 degree turn time - 36 s., maximum dispersion - 291 m. HE initial velocity - 830 m/s. AP initial velocity - 830 m/s. Sigma count - 1.8. Maximum speed - 30.4 kt. Turning circle radius - 850 m., rudder shift time - 21.5 s. Surface detectability - 16.7 km, air detectability - 13.8 km. Detectability after firing main guns in smoke - 15.4 km. Anti-torpedo defense damage reduction -19%. Available consumables: Slot 1 - Damage Control Party Slot 2 - Repair Party Slot 3 - Spotting Aircraft, Catapult Fighter Slot 4 - Engine Boost Also some speculation on my part from Roma ST stats.