ShinGetsu

Not a single DD will ever makes it alive to the CV if the CV player have some sense. And only stupid DD wastes their time doing that anyway.

^ What he said. I really don't get that appeal for strong secondaries battleships. Why do you want strong automatic armament when you can have nice, powerful, accurate main guns ? You want the game to do the job in your place ?

In what way Hakuryuu is "dominant for spotting" ? It has only one more squadron if played 2-3-2 (2-3-3 may be nice but you lose TB and fighters stock) and less planes in the air anyway. Tier 8 TB but with the module of tier 9 are still fairly resistant. If it was one squadron only it may have been a problem. They are indeed slower, and they need more time to reload. But the strike potential is far greater than Hakuryuu now with still better air control and almost impossible to empty plane reserves.

Tier 8 TB are more than enough to crossdrop any DD and wreck any ship that don't have huge AA rating. Especially if you first drop the tier X DB on them (with HE). And Midway still have the best fighters squadron in the game. So same numbers of TB as Hakuryuu, but with better fighters and better DB. Oh, btw, my opinion is also based on what I heard from unicum CV players. What I hope WG will change however are those stupidly broken AP bomb that one-shots cruisers but do the same damage as HE on BBs.

There's basically no reasons to play Hakuryuu anymore. Midway stomps on it now.

J'ai vu ailleurs une comparaison en taille des BBs t10. En gros France est le deuxième plus grand derrière GK, mais Gk est vraiment massif de chez massif. France est un peu plus long que Montana et Iowa en fait.

Je sais pas ce qui a pris à WG de sortir un t7 pareil. Ce truc est juste OP dans tous les sens du terme. Les mecs ils prennent un Gearing et le collent t7, comme ça, sans réfléchir, avec juste un nerf de la portée des torpilles et un peu moins d'HP. What. The. Heck.

Well... I'm frustrated. I'm starting to think I won't be able to clear E-4 and that disappoint me a lot. Especially since I'm sure Suzutsuki won't come back any time soon. This event is disgusting. The Yamashiro boss in E-4 is just almost unkillable if you don't have any seaplane fighters, this is soooo penalizing for a player like me. -_- I managed to bring it down to THREE HP. Seriously. -_- The worse of all is that it's actually the only hard part of that f*cking event. If I manage to kill her, Suzutsuki is mine 100%. But I'm now at 100 buckets, 15k fuel and ammo, and no end in sight. Just stopped for the day and will leave Akashi repair.

Here's an example of a "perfect" CV battle I had with Taiho against a more skilled player in his Taiho : Both our fighter were covering our teams a little before our DD so that we could spot incoming torpedoes. Each time we tried to get through the defense one way or another, the other CV had his fighter blocking the path inside allied AA. We fought a battle of spotting and trying to get a strike on either DDs or BBs. The main point of the battle between us was to prevent spotting of our DDs. I used empty DBs to do the spot instead of the fighters. Basically the game was a stalemate between us too and I lost because my team screwed up. AS setup basically ignores DD or rely on allies to sink them if they spot it. The DB are only good for doing almost useless dot damage on targets (hence you don't use them either for spotting) and the fighters are too busy trying to kill bombers while avoiding being locked or straffed by enemy fighters. Basically they always lost in one or sometimes two front : spotting, damage or destroying attack planes. Good riddance.

NC is OP. Monster of a ship. Very tanky, accurate, underwater citadel, stealthy, monster AA, it's not even slow. GIT GUD issue man if you can't make the best tier 8 BB to work. It deserves more a nerf than anything else currently.

Ouais mais j'y perd énormément sur les dégâts "normaux" de la LBAS et mon seul CAV est Mogami qui tape vraiment fort aux canons avec le bonus de l'event. (J'ai Suzuya lv72 mais je préfère garder Haguro Kai Ni en flag) Surtout qu'elle porte aussi les starshells. J'ai revu les branching rules : apparemment en easy rien ne m'empêche de prendre trois BB tant que j'ai assez de Nishimura et deux DDs. Je vais test de rajouter Yamato à la place de Myoukou et mettre Mogami en triple Zuiun + Starshells. EDIT : ou pas. Y a un détour par R. Mais je peux toujours tester hein. Si la branching change tant pis. J'essayerais Suzuya en flag.

J'ai fait que deux try sur la Last Dance du boss. A chaque fois avec la Strike FCF qui m'a retiré un ship avant. Le deuxième l'a laissé à 30 HP. Si j'arrive à passer ce foutu chemin en fait, je la fait sans problème. J'aurais jamais l'artillerie spotting de toute façon, mais je pense qu'avec 4 navires de la Nishimura je passerais dans tous les cas. Au pire j'envisage de sortir Myoukou de ma flotte et y coller Yamato à la place... (J'ai Haguro flagship, Shigure, Yuudachi, Yamashiro, Fusou, Myoukou, Mogami dans cet ordre, avec Shigure en AACI)

Ces valeurs peuvent être placeholder. Dans tous les cas, c'est une droite affine entre la dispersion minimale à 0km et la dispersion maximale. Et il me semble avoir lu que pour le France et comme souvent pour les navires tout juste en ST, la dispersion minimale est un placeholder.

En terme de précision horizontale on est mieux que le Conqueror quand même. Le France en gros, en comptant le module, est un peu mieux placé qu'un Amagi avec 11.5m/km de dispersion. Plus un sigma de 2.0. C'est largement mieux que Gk qui se trimballe dans les 12.5 avec module. On est quand même vachement en-dessous du Montana et du Yamato, certes. D'autant que de ce que je sais du GK, il est pas si shotgun que ça, l'engin. Comparé aux précédents les canons sont plutôt bons parait-il. Après, j'attend les retours des testers parce que c'est eux qui nous donneront leur avis. WG n'a jusque là laissé aucun tier 10 être réellement mauvais. Même le Z-52 qui est le t10 d'une des branches les moins populaires du jeu est réputé comme franchement monstrueux. Et Henri IV est vraiment fun. Si il est vraiment trop imprécis aux test, WG changera cette valeur. Si il a vraiment pas assez de DPM, WG changera le reload. Si il est vraiment trop fragile, WG changera l'armure du pont. Je pense qu'il faudra pas trop s'en faire, dans tous les cas. Il a l'air "moyen-correct" pour l'instant. Ma pire crainte personnelle c'était l'angle de tourelle parce que ça ça pouvais pas être tweaké (c'est le modèle qui est comme ça), et WG a pondu un truc très jouable. Par contre le blindage à 32, la précision, le DPM, c'est totalement changeable.

Gotta love how WG fight BB overpopulation : by making AP shells designed to hurts BB that only works on cruisers. You have no idea how much I want to insult them right now. Especially since Midway is basically better than Hakuryuu in everything now. You better stops the IJN grind at Taiho... I saw a screenshot from thisheep having fun in his Midway yesterday. He baited the DAA on a Henri IV with his TB, then went over him with the DB afterwards. One-shot. So, you want to play your Hindenburg with its exceptional hydro now ? Too bad, if you do, the Midway kill you either with 12 torps or with one AP-bomb drop. Lololol.

It's amusing how KGV fly under everyone radar while this ship is just the strongest tier 7 battleship by far. It can tank very well, it is okay in every aspects, but the gun combines very powerful HE to burn everything that dares angles against him, and very okay AP to punch through any broadside it can find. And it's tier 7 so most of the time in tier 5-7 battle whereno BB can hope to match it...

T'as regardé les stats de ces canons et les angles de tirs ? La seule chose que WG pourrait changer dessus raisonnablement c'est le reload et la précision horizontale voire le sigma si besoin est. On verra ça aux tests. Mais arrêtez de crier au loup si vous n'êtes pas capable d'analyser les statistiques raisonnablement. On s'en fiche qu'il ait que 8 canons.

Stop prendre iChase pour une référence. Il raconte n'importe quoi.

Honestly Aigle seems more suited to shred every tier 6 and even tier 7 DD at close range. That DPM is insane and it has the HP to kill two or three DD in separate duels. The only real downside is the concealment, but it can still be very dangerous provided it appears in caps with the right timing.

Apparemment Alsace est aussi bon en spé secondaire qu'avec un build standard et opti de la batterie principale CE/FP. C'est un peu le seul de la branche comme ça par contre. Pour France je ne sais toujours pas quoi penser de l'engin, faudra vraiment attendre des retours. Pour le moment les testers ont commencés vaguement à sortir Richelieu, par contre j'ai vu des vidéos du Roma et celui-ci est vraiment, vraiment, très prometteur. J'espère que Richelieu sera un bon concurrent.

Against Yamato, sure. Against other BBs ? Nope, not really... as long as it's angled. I didn't fought many Conqueror with my Montana (saw them mostly when playing cruisers or Yamato), but with sufficient angling I don't see why it would take more damage than other with AP.

That 2-2-2 Midway can totally go against an Hakuryuu you know... fighting 4 IJN squadrons with 2 USN is totally possible. And with those double TB setup the Midway is even more brutal in strike now...

Saw the video. It really seems confortable to play. The guns are really nice, and the ship seems very responsive and agile for its size. Quite the ship, but doesn't seems to powercreep either. And the guns hurts battleships like hell which is a good thing. Enough cruisers killers.

While we're at it, nerf the KGV too. This ship is insane. Just look at my stats, it's stomping all over my tier 7 and 8, and even some tier 9.

... I really didn't want another BB line that relies on secondaries. What's the point of a ship that does the job by itself ? Secondaries are no fun. Give me a strong ship with good main armament instead of nerfing it in favor of a secondary build.