ShinGetsu

USN CV changes were very welcome. There was no variety, there was only a "pick-your-poison" choice, except maybe for Essex and Midway. Unless you think stock setup which was inferior to IJN, strike setup barely viable, and AS setup only used by clueless noobs was good balance ?

I see you guys saying Kaga is hard-countered by big-AA ship... That's half true. Those TB with fast torps and long range allows for long-range sniping drops you wouldn't be able to do with Hiryuu. If anything I'd say Kaga is much better than Hiryuu at doing damage to AA monster such as Iowa or NC. However the DB sucks which doesn't help much in the DOT front of the CV damages. And the fighters requires being very precise with fighters micromanagement. Hiryuu is far easier to play against a Saipan than Kaga.

Nah, it doesn't work like that. The numbers aren't rounded. The calculation is simpler : if you have 25.33mm of penetration, that means "you penetrate more than 25mm" ==> 25mm armor are penetrated. 152mm HE actually penetrates 25mm. That's the reason why german cruisers got a 27mm bow buff : that protect them from not only overmatch from 380mm, but also from any 152mm that doesn't have IFHE. I remember it even was mentioned in the patchnote. I disagree. For me a properly played Atlanta or Harekaze is even better.

Tu y tiens vraiment à cette branche complètement irréalisable de CV français hein ? Spoiler : on ne l'aura pas. La quantité d'invention totale et d'extrapolation nécessaire est pire que celle d'un arbre russe.

Amazing upgrade on all USN BB. I have it on Alabama (previously NC before I got the premium in a X-mas container) and Montana, and it's amazing. This 28 seconds immunity is just that strong. I think it's only worth using on IJN BBs to get the immunity from a short 10 to a more reasonable 14, and on USN BB to get that incredibly long immunity time.

Spee isn't a bad ship, but IMO Harekaze is one of the most fun DD around. It has everything I want from a DD. Even if you're a beginner, it's a good future investment imo.

wat. Les cuirassés sont fait pour mener la charge. Les croiseurs sont des navires d'escorte. T'as de l'armure, des PV et de la puissance de feu en BB. Si t'es pas devant qui le sera ? Et même 4 BB par camps c'est beaucoup. 3 serait bien plus logique.

Colorado was already powercreeped by Nagato when they were the only two tier 7 BB in the game.

You don't get nuked if you don't show your broadside. Something any decent BB player knows and can do. Kii is especially great when kiting, but it can also push forward without issues.

Oh I'm sure Missouri is great to play. It has basically no counter as long as you know a bit how to play BB. And that's the exact reason why I don't want it. I love Kii on the other hand. Kii have strong AA and some situational torps but is more fragile than Amagi. I feels like it's normal that a BB get weaknesses to compensate its strenghts. Same for Nelson : zombie heal, but very vulnerable to citadel hits. Slow and without AA but agile, and incredible guns that hit harder than a same tier opponent hits her.. Missouri doesn't get any of that. Where are the weaknesses ? His worst weaknesses (turn time and agility) are just average compared to the other tier 9 BBs. It just deserves a nerf honestly.

The thing is, you can't compare any BB, premium or not, freepex or not, to Missouri. That abomination is in a league of its own. Immune to all his counter thanks to both AA and radar, and both are slapped on an Iowa hull which is already the best standard tier 9 BB. Musashi should be compared to Izumo which it completely outclass, and to FdG/Iowa/Lion. Certainly NOT to Missouri. The sooner Missouri get out of the tech tree the better it is. We don't need more of that thing.

C'est marrant j'en parlais pas mal avec le DernierPapillon tout à l'heure des DDs français éventuels. Le problème en fait c'est un peu le T10. Soit t'as Mogador qui a besoin de buff énormes sur son DPM parce qu'IRL son canon était foiré, soit tu as le choix entre des trucs qui sont des copié/collé des DDs US à la française, que sont Surcouf (classe T47) et T53. Ce qui casse complètement par rapport au reste de la branche. En tout cas, Fantasque en t8 ou t9 c'est sûr quoi.

Well in the original anime those serves as some kind of Coast Guards, so not very fancy camo indeed, it's rather serious in this regard. Or at least not too silly.

Yeah, I was asking myself the same thing. I guess Izumo MAY get less overpen on smaller targets. Apart from that... that ship needs some serious love from wargaming. xD

The exact same way Kii citadel is vulnerable or Iowa citadel was very vulnerable before the stupid beyond words buff. Doesn't change the fact you can [could] push with them. Yamato citadel may be exposed, she's still very heavily armored. You can angle the ship and the belt y'know. The biggest drawback of Yamato at close range is the turret rotation, not the citadel. And you clearly don't want to brawl a GK. But it's not a reason to play her bow-on and reversing. That's actually the quickest way to die to HE spam. Montana is a better ship in my opinion, but I still like playing my Yamato. She gives a sense of power Montana doesn't have, but I wouldn't call her an easy ship to really do well in. Sure she's a great sniper, but that's something you should only use in early game. And Montana with recon plane is a sniper you better watch out for too. I can't count the battles I started with a double or triple citadel hits at 24km with Monty.

I call that playing your Yamato wrong if you ask me. Yamato still goes 27 knots, and is able to both tank and play like a conventional BB. Bow-on tanking with Yamato is exactly the same mistakes as bow-on tanking with NC or Iowa. You can do much more than just that. It's a fantastic ship to push if you have a little support, and as long as you anticipates enough your turret rotation it can do some nice thing at close or even mid-range. Anyway, I plan to get Musashi myself. I don't want anything to do with Missouri. An Iowa with radar is simply disgusting. Musashi I want for historical reasons, and because she will be a nice permanent tier 10 in my port. Period.

*Read last post* Wait. What. Where did I walk to ? How did you guys went from Roma jug to discussing beers themselves ?

Nah that also hide camos. Click on the "eye" and it will show Kii with the standard grey no-camo if the player have the Kobayashi. No I'm not. I quite like ARP Kongo, and I will never understand how can one argue about "immersion" of all things in a Wargaming game.

What immersion ? In a game where 5 Tirpitz and Bismarck are in the same team against 5 other Bismarck and Tirpitz ? And you know, you can just hide the camo in the port (low right corner, just above the ship thumbnails). Nobody forces you to see them, and you don't even need a mod. Also I'm offended you compare this abomination with the ARPs.

Furutaka is better when using mostly AP. 203mm overmatch all tier 5 and less cruisers armor. But the HE are also very nice, and it's the only cruiser in the IJN apart from Atago and Zao to have torps you can launch forward. Aoba is a bit difficult to play as you only have 6 guns, but very fast reload. Myoukou is amazing. It's squishy so beware, but the 10 guns are very dangerous and the ship is both fast and agile. Mogami is very hard to play. Short range guns and very, very squishy ship. It's a powerful ship, but difficult. Ibuki is a bit meh. Zao is an oversized Myoukou with troll armor, incredible guns and 20 torpedoes.

I guess that means Pola will have a bottle of wine on top when they'll introduce her as a premium ship.

Roma is in the shop right now. Also HSF Harekaze and HSF Graf Spee are back !

IFHE allows to bully tier 7 and less battleships over islands, and all cruisers. And by "bully", I mean 5k salvoes.

Harekaze est de retour dans le shop également, à 35€ pour le moins cher.

I disagree on Atlanta. You want to uses as much cover as possible. Usually you can find them without being spotted in early game. Sure, CE helps. But AFT and IFHE are higher priority. I'd go for AFT then IFHE then CE. Well, on my end I just used a 18-points captain I had. Still, one of the most fun ship to play when mastered.