WingedHussar_Adler

agree to degree....but still it is better indicator than dmg done because dmg done shows nothing for team/win effort

i know you cant....you will learn math and statistic in highscool

i know it is to you....now that 102% fucked your theory....well we know it all the way data set is more than 500.000 games....enought. you dont understand crap

Hakuryu has 53,3 winrate.....Midway 48,8....it is 102,1%...do you get now....i get Avenger could not get it because of his age (young) but others should

use statistic, not logic.....if that was the case all dd and cv would have 50% winrate +-11%...but it is not the case

It is not truth..it would be if mirror means it is ALLWAYS one nation vs other nation..but it is not the case....and especialy one is dominant and it should go to top of wr if it dominates odher clases...but it does not

Nothing special (it is not 50% as you think).....because USA vs USA is 50% chance same as IJn VS IJN.......if it were mandtory USA vs IJN than we can talk more, but it is not. If Taiho, Hakuryu are OP ships they would be top, no metter miror because 50% of game are not IJN vs IJN and strenght of individual ship (not class) would show p.s. dd have +-1 matchmaker, and most itme it is mirror and still winrated differes alot and we know which dd sucks per tier and which dominates it you should refresh your knowladge sftom statistic

i think we all can agree (ecxept potatoes) that winrate of a ship is much better indicator of strenght of ship than raw dmg....we all know dds are very importan for a team and they on t10 does not do more than 50 k average dmg....so lets see winrateos of those monsters ships called cv. t8 - shokaku is 5th and LEX is last (ordr is as folows....z23, akizuki, edinborough, bismarck, shokaku t9 - Taiho is sixt and ESSEX ili last again (oredr is as folows.....z46, missouri, neptun, udalou, lfletcher and taiho t10 - Hakuryju is second and Midway is last again (oreder is Khaba, Hakuryu) so what this shows is that noobs like Avengers and such have no clue abut cv game (not meaning that they are bad players overall)......winrate IS the ultimate indicator of ships strenght....as it clearly shows that top ships are the one we know are strong or near op. t3 - Albert (we know this ship is so strong) t4 - Nikolai (it is removed from premium shop..whot else is needed) t5 - fujin/kamikaze r t6 - shinonome t7 - flint/belfast (lol we all know about belfast ) t8 . z 23/aizuki t9 - z 46/missouri (small number of games for miss) t10 - Khaba/Hakuryu it shows domination of dds as THE CLASS for winrate and most importan ships so DMG is not so much importan for ships strenght (wow says rendom tomatoplayer and that 10 years old kidd).....it also shows that USA cv sucks extremly, they dont go over 49% winrate in any of those tiers.....so they are more or less usles no metter if they are againss IJN cv or USA cv because theirs winrate is below 50% and they play more than 50% battles meaning many times they fight usa vs usa. and it shows that CV do not dominate, that they are top middle of winrateclas.....why would you nerf something that clearly does not top winrate scale....i know that noob got recked and now is crying, but in fact DDs are stil ling of the hill. all other mombo yambo by clules potatos is mombo jumbo

Bismarck is stronger without question.....ships are the same with only difference torps and secondaryies. And it is much easier to use secondaries in match (10.6 km fire that can not be dodget vs 6 km torps that can be dodget).....torps are so situational and ussualy you will not have ships in your 6 km range

I argumented with this guy 3 month ago. But he is just troll. He is not playing cv he is just trolling. There no reason to have argument with him. He has no arguments or experience of play. Cup cakes like him have 2 arguments. High dmg of cv and mobility of planes=op. But he can not comprehend that high dmg can not directly translate to influence of a game or winrate. He just can not comprehand that. Same as low dmg of dds does not show their weaknes or uselness. As we know dd has very high influence in win of team without dooing half cv or bb dmg.

Yes i mostly talk about serious game. Not full of tomatos. Sure on solo yolo noobs ijn cv just prints dmg. Ijn cv has one specialyty. Hunt one ship that is ussualy out of aaa umbrela. Yes it is dd. Crosdrop is deadly to them. Usa have bad time there with rng bombs

Oportunities yes. But not to carryy game. Because cv can not conter organized play. Cv hunts solo players. Players that has littlest influence on game

Cv cant carry. You wold know if you played one. But no. Again this monkey with his statement about class he is not playing

Cv cant carry. You wold know if you played one. But no. Again this monkey with his statement about class he is not playing

Cv cant carry. You wold know if you played one. But no. Again this monkey with his statement about class he is not playing

In t 8+ cv is one of least infuencal ship on map. Because there is no skill that can uotplay 2 ships sailing together.

We all know that. But still every few days somebody will get rekt at t 5 from cv and we will this topic all over again. Crying nooby will allwasy be crying noobs. I am not talking about OP here because he had something other in mind. But he started again nerfwagon and attracted those recke peoples to come crying here. We all know that cv in organized play aka clanbattles will prpbably be totaly ussles or reduced to AS setup for pure spotting because 7 or 9 ships moving together creates 10-15 km no fla zone. And as cv can not cap he must spot or deal dmg. And dmg can not be dealt to organized gropu of ships.

1 cv per side on any tiers should work. I would also like that mm takes skill in considoration too but it wont happen. If game is 2-2 dds per side and you have tomatos and they good players it is sure lost game. But we will not see it happen soon. I think good dd is much more important ship than good cv. Ok on lower tiers cv have more impact bun on higher tiers good shima or gearing is more importan for wictory of a team tahn good cv. If you want cv out of a picture play higher tiers. On higher tiers cv become less powerfull. On other heand on higher tiers bb gets stronger. It is evolution of a game. Really no reason to qut the game because you do not like tier 4-5 meta. Because it changes on t78 and t910. We have 3 metagames. Chose one you like the most. It looks meta 7and8 are most pleasent for most players

That Spartan trol has 42 winrate. 600 efficiency. And 17k average dmg. 0.4 average kills. I saw bot having better stats. And he calls of a nerfs. Really? I think every class otplays him .

yuo can cry as much as you want but it wont change fact that you have no idea whatsoever about game or how to play it and are just dumb troll [edited]

in higher tiers you only have trains. Hughe 10-15 km aaa auras. Current hightier meta is lemmingtrains. And there is something how you can defend. Wasd. Usave of positions. And dont get me wrong. Some ships should have bruttal aaa. Usa ca does not have torps because they have brutall aaa. But not all ships should have strong aaa. I like when you need your ca for aaa protection. But right now 2 bs if one is usa is enought to protectdemself. Also t button and panic is retarded. I agree focused squad should panic. But eveything in range? You have 2 min cd skill that actualy makes imposible to ijn cv to hit a crap. And if you have 2 ca that works together t skill is up every minute. Idiotic. Problem is that they buffed aaa to EVERYTHING in bame. I do not agree that solo ships should be able to defend agains cv. It should be teamwork. It should be some skill. With 7 km brutal aura nad basicly 3 dedicated skilla for boos of aaa it is too much. Why aft gices range and aa range? Seperate those skills so we have aaa speced ships and other spaced ships. Now aaa is default specc for all ships because it does not have alternative. Aaa is just sideplus of main specc. And it is retarded that sideffect of main specc can counter another class. Make aaa strong but make it special spec.

really. Removing manua drop is not a nerf? Relly????

Cv needs beter ui. Cv needs beter economy and cv need something to counter "t" button. It is only class that does not have counter to enemies skill. Dd has smoke. Crruiser have radar to counter. Dds have torps ca and bb have hydro to conter. What is conter to t button and passive skills? NOTHING. FLY AWAY. FIND SOLO YOLO NOOB AND HIT HIM. Cv can not control space. Cv looks for space without ships and try to go there and hopes to find noob there. All ttx ca are aaa monsters. Soke eaven have over 8 km long range aaa. Some of bs have 100 aaa rating and strong aaa. Usa dds have t button. And all that is not a problem until theirs aaa aura and t buttons does not overlap. Than they create no fly zone

[edited]. Cv is only class where your skill can not save you from 2-3 ships sailong together. You can have godlike skill and would do none dmg to them. Passive skills outplays you. Thuth is that dmg ov cv does not depend on cv but on enemie. If they are noobs and go solo they die. If they play like a team cv can not touch them.

I told before. Only idiot can ask for nerf or buff of a class not knowing how they perform at max lvl.