WingedHussar_Adler

It is i would say - mandatory. Dd needs range and speed while out of smoke.

DM is great ship..but you need to be close..that arc is brutal and unforgiving.....no torps.....bad armor.....(ok buffed last patch but still cits thru nose)....mino is in smoke while BB will delte DM on open in this fight you describing ...also it has worst HE of all cruisers with HE.....for HE spam Moskva and ZAo are far superior.....well after all DM is last on dmg table of t10 cruisers.....

every cruiser requires but Mino is most equiped for every situation..best stealth, smoke, hydro, brutall Aaa, great DPM.....i suck in cruiser....but still it is line with least skill needed of other cruisers.....in my opinion

AP secondary on Nagato/amagi just melts Ca and DDs.....ussles on BS

You failed to see that he asks only about 3 nations. Km/usa/ijn? Yes minotaur is blantly op ship and easiest to play and do well. So not special skill reqired for Mino. Probably hardest to play good is Des Moines. Moskva also is extremly good ship that burns with 20 km with ease and can tank very well. But op asked only for 3 lines and from them Zao is steongest.

Don't get me wrong. Usa cv line ia not ussles. But same skill usa vs ijn ijn will be much more usefull for team. Especially from t 8 + on lower tier distinction is not that big. But from t7-8 till 10 ijn power just rises and dominates USA. 2 main differences: - bad decks for USA that means they can not project their team. - Bombers are just much worst than torpedo planes. TOrpedos just does much more dmg and cross drop is ussually instakill for dd. I grinded thrue all lines and have and love Midway (still on Taiho) but with ijn you are just more efficient and deadly.

Mogami. Strongest of all 3 at t 8. On t 10 Zao is again most flexibile and many would say strongest in most cases. Hindi and DM are strong but more situational.

Agree. But allways can usa last one to disengage and run away. Or disengage fighters to strife attack planes. But main thing. It is 1 point and not much better choice on first tier.

That 10% gives you one more strafe. Very usefull for 1 skill point. Also it is cummulative with module.

Lexington has no fighters in strike load = shokaku shuts jim down with rase. Essex has 1 fighter which lose from 10 ijn planes+ 3 Torpedo squada destroys anything5 in pati while 3 Bombers ussualy does 1.3 k dmg per bomb. Aldo tb loads so much flaster. Midway loses his strike potential in 2-1-2 while Haku has 2-3-3 and so much more dmg potential. Usn carrier from t 8 just sucks and can not compare to ijn. Midway has 130 planes. But Haku with 100 basicly never runs out of planes. Usa cv s now are for fans. For competitive play it is IJN. Anybody seen Lex in competitive league or tournament?

DE= + 10% ammo......it is MUST have just for that ......i would never ever recomand any CV to skip this skill

No question about...IJN is like 100% stronger line from t7-8 forward......it just DOMINATES USA line...USA is basicly ussles because good IJN player will outplay your air domination setup and willl just shoot you down and aout dmg you in strike setup...it is no coincidance that USA cv are LOWES WINRATE SHIPS from t 7 up til t10...LOWEST WINRATE!!!!!!! of all ships

If Kaga gets out in state in she is now - she will be useless.....and Saipan is much better choice.... Kaga has t6 planes + totally weird drop pattern of torpedos.....

For beginer - usa. No question about that.

Yep...ussles.....

RN ships and rolle in ww2 and USA can not stand in same sentence. I know brits thnks they are special but they are not. They nver faced (in ww2) real steong oposition on see. Km was not. Italian (lol)......NOTHING. GB lostt it's naval power betwean ww1 and ww2. In hypotetical clash of RN and USA navy in 45.....RN would have 5% chance.

Bbs can not brawl with ship that has torpedos or much better secondaries. So not all bbs are good at brawling because They have no defence. USA bb branch is worst brawler an Basicly will not win brawl fight against km or ijn From t 7 up. And brawling with ca or dd is called ambushed bb But bbs are perfect pushers. With scout infront

Stick with ijn. From t 7 you will destroy USA and you will have manual attacks. If you like playstile of cv s play it. They still are one of steongest solo ships in randoms.

Saipan is strong ship and ijn players play aromu against hum. Iz is not regular usa cv that you can slap around in dogfight. You are here challenger. News to hide. Use friendly aaa and strike when your strikeforce is safe. In strike compartmwnt ijn has advantage but you need to play more defensivly in dogfight. Kaga if does not get Premium mm it will be totaly ussles in t9 games with it's t6 planes. Also she will have to hide from Saipan in dogfights but strike is stronger

Don't forget his 3 bomber squad that he if competent will unload and scout 3 bases and you will not be able tu upset him. His 2 fighter will eat your 1 fighter. (same skill applied) his 3 TB will outdmg your strikeforce. And he has 3 groups of bomber to scout. And you just cant do crapto win dogfight and stop his bomber howering over dds. Aldo you can not stop his TB. Basicly your team depends if Haku player is much worst than you. If he is not much worst than you your team is fucked because Haku dominates field. If you play 2 -1 -2 most used setuup you gain some control over battlecield but lowers your strikeforce by solid %. I agree that jet plana s and 2x6 TB with narrow spread were totaly broken and OP but now USA cv from tier 8 - 10 are ships with WORST winrate of all ships. It is not coincidance. Ijn are just better in loadouts. P.s. Yes 105 is average dmg of Haku but when we compare same level players skill (rating) your 120k would be 170k with same skill player in Haku.

Really? Gremy? Atago? Those are ships eaqual to tech tree? how yes no They decided long time ago that in wows Premium ships will have somwthing special (different filozofy from wot and wowp). And it started from first one s. Atago for instance got6 heal at t8 and ridiculus consilment unmached today. And personaly i do not see the need of Premium ships be weaker than tree ones. They just must not be op and in most cases They are not. There is much more normal premiums then brokenly op. Atlanta, Sims, Anshan, mutsu, kamikaze, lo yang, Tirpitz, leningrad, prinz eugen, texas and so on all ships that are apsolutly competitive in tier but not OP. Tirpitz was monster when he got out. But was than totaly otclased by regular ships and basicly everybody learned to move from it's torpedo. The he become 8x380 gunship with bad disperzion and inability to pen other bs in tier of they are not braimdead. Powercreap eated some ships do they got some love like Atlanta with radar and now Tirp with secondaries.

While if on other side Haku destroys your team (it has greater dmg potential and for sure outdmg your 120 k average) and you can do nothing except sealclub poor solo yolo BS......you can not scout, you can not defend team from Haky.....just grind some dmg....thats the description of ussles ship for team and ship which has lowest average winrate of all T10 while on other heand Haku is SECOND ship off ll t10 in winrate and destroys Midway in all possible stats (dmg, kills, plane kills, exp, winrate...).....so no it is not fine ship

The cold reason?.....it was weakest BS in t 8 by far......bad guns (worst in tier); bad disprzion, only 8 guns, bad HE, worst caliber of guns.....bad AA. one of the worst....he only have turtleback armour.....this ship neded buff......and really no excuse ot to have secondaries of Bismarck.....torpedos are more gimmic than real threat.....how often you really torp somebody with it.....on weekend maybee but when there are no braindeadwotmonkeys in game....who do you torp?

Play ijn or usa. Anshan is good ship but not OP in tier. Of you wanna torpboat play ijn. Of you wanna dogfight play usa. Bouth wins over Anshan in their top role. Anshan is great allarounder. But not op

Uss Missouri not at all. Have iowa. Basicly same ship and 750000 grind is no no for me Black is prize ship so not counting it in. Premium ships in my book are ones everybody can buy with real money of exp grind like Missouri. My point was on higher tier there are no pay to win Premium ships like on lower tier. Thinking of belfast as the biggest pay to win crap (especially because it is in ranked zone t7 t8. From t8 plus balance is much better end beside kutuzov regular ships are on pair with Premium one s