WingedHussar_Adler

after shut down of WG API and sites like mapeleef and wowsStats we will never know with certenty how many ar they played....but if they will not be played i am sure they will not waste more time to them...but we know 2 new lines are in pipleine and they wil be developed. in my perosnal experience i see more subs than CVs so somebody is playing them for sure.

why i do like subs? - they really egzisted - gameplay is fun - it is not that hard to play agains them - spraying them with dd is just fun hybrids? - did not play them so no idea what they will do to the game, but i like new things and new gameplay (that is why i also hope new "support" CVs will be good)...but for me it is good that we have someting new.....not just basicaly same ships with same gameplay but with other flag (like new lightcruisers) - as i understood they can not shoot and spot at the same time (not played so maybe i am wrong) - could agree that they should not spot for others but just for BBs and in the end it is just personal opinion....but they will be in game....so why waist time for negativ energy when we KNOW our opinion is not worth a dime to devs?

you have 10k+ battles so probably are longtime here....maybe played wot also....you know with 100% certaincy that NOTHING we write here is important to devs and that hrey have their vision of the game. so many whines just makes peoples bitter, and gives excuses for new players beeing bad and do not want to learn stuff...... the worst part of this game for me is the state of playerbase...so many bad, laizy players who do not want to learn signle thing is just.....uffff and never ever it is them...look forum is stating it is just OP classes, ships, mechanism etc etc

yeah, i do not like CV rework also i like that they removed stealthfire i like subs i like captain skills rework like ide of hybrids i do not like nerf of IJN torpedos (original long ranged and stealthed) dont like radars on BBs and dds but really you adapt and play or leave.....bitching year by year is just borring......really this forum is one big whinefest

some thinks it is bad, some it is good, some dont have strong opinion....most just play and adapt, some leave game....and special ones cry on forume every day, day by day, year by year (dont have in mind anybody specific now)

95% of "proposition" on this forum, especialy in whining threads (every 10-th thread is not some kind of whine) are idiotic atempt to dumb down game or shut down something you can not master. It is good that they do not listen

This game is "dieing" from first time cryers saw 20 km original shima torpedos....from back then it is dieing :) and form that time it is dieing becasue of: - shima torps - fire - stealthfire (was in the days it was possbile) - smoke/smoke fire - radar - hydro - CV - more torpedos - new cvs - RPF - subs - hybrids basicaly anything new that potatoheads can not master

defend? good?.....it is as it is. same as in ranked you get 2 radar cruisers and 1 hydro dd on one side and on other nothing......it is not fair we all know it, but it happens bouth way....you play and move on. offcourse there are alot os specifuuul peoples who find any reason for crying i just wait for shitstorms when there will be cv and 5 hybrid bbs per side ...oh the joy

BBs needs food :)

Exactly. And if I was outplayed by good player - kudos to them 👏

Exactly.

Experienced players do not vaste points on useless skils like that. They are most of time in good position towards enemies and not giving broadside.

The best way, to me, to dodging them is to kite them. So they will follow you and always try to hit your steran. Before hit you wiggle your stearn and they will miss cause they are not as manevaruble. For that it very nice to know from what side they are coming and in from what angle. Maneuvering before seeing torps is needed to put you in kiting position. Same can be done if you do not kite but put your bow to torpedos and go straight to them and do hard Maneuver before impact. It is riskier because you are going into torps and shortens response time due to faster speed of impact

offcourse you do not engage sub if she is near other ships and you are spoted.

i mean for dd primary weapon against subs :)...and you do not need to get directly on top....you will hurt her/ leak oil form solid radious...as she is so slow underwater you got her in next 20 seconds

Sub has couple 100 meters zone of undetected spot if she is on periscop depth so basicaly you know she is around 2,3 km from you and she is in more danger than you. If there are other ships around than offcourse you do not engage, as you would not normaly go 1 vs many. it is not dds problem. Most peoples cry about how sub "shotguned" them.....to do that sub must be close, on persicop depth and far from cover...so easy meal for dd

why would you be spoted?

yep..puite LTP issue if you think you think sub can win over dds

only if you are bot

look hom many subs pinate in game.....as DD they are food

nop they did not...they can not please all the cryers if you read forum you would see that vryers want limited numbers of: - dd -sub -cv -hybrids -bbs you know..EVERYTHING :)

as do you know that you can start dodging them even when you do not see them becasue you know 2 thing without spoting torpedos: - part of the ship they will try to hit - direction they are coming from

it looks great...where is the problem?

you would not see them there probably cause there are playing competent players and subs (i think) do not fit in greatly in that format. but hey.....most of forum cryers can watch that only on YT so if there would be subs our forum bots maybe could learn how to kill them?

cause captain who avoided is not crying noob? an the one that can not is...well...you know.....full red whoes only effor to learn new thing is to cry of forum to remove someting :)