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See this: Just play games in the right ships - don't go to the mission screen unless it is too check progress...

I like these missions - something to properly sink my teeth into. The commander one is HEFTY - high requirements and a relatively high tier bar. I always get sad when I can't use my Gremy for it (commander one), and I just started grinding the USN DD line (nearly finished the Clemson) so they won't help. But it might be time to add the Ranger to my Hatsuhari/Myoko grinds as they all fit the bill. And if I really want some damage then the Yamato can defo help me out p.s. the news page says about selecting the dock but I got progress to the missions without using the dock so I'm not sure what that is about? I know you need to have the dock to see them but that isn't what the news said...

In before complaints at it being tier 7 plus only for the commander.

Yea the Clear Sky changes are a bit crap really. You can relatively reliably farm them at tier 4-5 but they are a rare sight at high tiers.

He only want Ectar back so he can complain more... oh wait, he only needs Ectar's name and he has succeeded.

Yes still working! My internet died at 7:30pm and so I didn't see this last night. Thanks!

Too many people die and then look around to see why thing have gone badly. And a ship pointing towards your own cap and away from the enemy is something that can and does get picked up on - it doesn't mean they have done nothing but it can easily look like it to someone who has been tunnelvisioned on their own game until they die. I know this because I have experienced it and tbh I've probably gotten it wrong and labelled someone unfairly in the past. About a week ago I was out on 2 brothers in my Yamato. I think I was the only tier 10 BB and I headed East from a north spawn. The 2 cruisers I was with died depressingly quickly and I had to slowly track backwards as I dished out the damage. As it happens it was a full team collapse so soon there was enemies in the NW pushing up from the west side which I engaged but I started getting grief off 1 guy for 'sitting at the back' - I guess my secondaries had been firing on multiple occasions at nothing. 176k dmg loss.

2 mil damage and it is yours? Wow, they really are making this one easy.

Or stick a smiley at the end of every sentence ;)

So having successfully trained my Gremy up without SA and wasted 250 dubloons re-respeccing him I figured I would ask the question before spending points on the Myoko. What skills should I go for and in what order?

Just now I played a game in my Hiryu. 2 brothers and I send my planes up towards the west. As it transpires they have only cruisers/dd in the east and in the west goes their NC, Amagi, NM and Fuso with a pensacola for support and a mahan sat way in front. I look to the east and not only will it take a minute or so to relocate... I'm likely just to face some defensive fire barrages. I look at the west an on top of getting around the Pensa the only thing I could get to there would be the NC/Fuso and even then the Pensa's AA bubble could cover them as well if the NCs awesome AA isn't enough. So, I attack the Mahan... the Mahan who is relatively constricted by a friendly torp wave. It wasn't my most successful attack but I hit him with 1 torp and 1 bomb for a quick start. Next thing I notice our Aoba is going mental at me in chat... I think mainly because he had just taken a lot of damage when he was west. But apparently CVs can't attack DDs and he isn't happy. I tried briefly to explain how it was the only real target I had but his caps locks and attitude eventually led me to tell him to 'go away'. At the time I had seen what was West I had pointed my CV East and then parked it out of the way. 2 sorties later I hear a torp warning... what?!? I thought I knew where the enemy DDs were. So I slam my CV into full speed (it is unusual for me to sit still in my CV) and look at the map... our Aoba. My small amount of torps meant I only ate 2 of the 4 and the 2nd set completely missed but wow. He was on the West flank when he started going mental and then came all of the way to the East to be pretty crap at torping me. Mental. Oh, and he was above average 51% player.

I think that will be the test. Well, perhaps Tirpitz will be but I expect in order to moderate the server population the Tirp will remain bundled forever but some of the smaller ships will come unbundled.

I don't believe the 'fan boys' want them to be OP. They just want them there. Playable. The RN was the dominant naval force up to and heading into WW2. That doesn't translate to having all of the best ships - it was the dominant force due to its size and composition. I understand the initial decisions regarding USN/IJN and also I am not naive enough to not understand them developing content based on their markets, but I still find it a little hard to understand how they have not made an appearance yet especially given the wealth of classes available. It is like creating a F1 game and not including Ferrari.

I was aware of IWD, but I still found this post a little creepy as it just sounds like a way of getting to talk to a girl... all for the price of £0.86. But, as a man, knowing what men are like and then using my naturally cynical nature I am always going to think that way.

I always found it nicely accurate. The problem can be that the groupings actually punish slightly bad aim whereas your shotgun NM (less accurate + 4 extra shells) means that even if your aim is a bit off stray shells can still get hits on target.

Hell, even in my Hiryu (a tier above the Cleveland) I will often pick other cruisers (or other ships if protected by the cleve) when they are around. It isn't that I can't and won't kill them, but it takes more time and will cost more planes so why bother. It can be funny though when they really think they are safe and you show them that they are not!

Well you can kill them more effectively if you have planes left. As a Bogue any of the tier 3,4 or 5 CAs are easy to attack but any above that you need to be REALLY careful with - they all might have AA barrage and the US ships in particular have great AA. Only go for them if any weaker cruisers are already dead. Oh, and you have only about 2-3 days left to try and get those 30 kills so if you are not close you might really struggle.

It is an AA heavy cruiser, has barrage consumable and is 1 tier higher. Why does it surprise you when it melts your planes? Target selection is an important part of CV play.

You forgot the last line. Yuri: But don't forget Ivan, stronk Russian science means that Russian ships get to see slightly further than capitalist pig boats. Is only right, da?

Meh. I guess nice enough to see some other options for flags but personally I'll stick with my JR... probably would even if I had the alpha flag.

Oh yea, I forgot that. Most likely will be the same kind of thing.

This. why put it in the 'events' section before there is actually anything happening?

As much as there will be some small instances of people holding shots to get the kill shot the reality is that in most cases this doesn't happen because it is a lot harder to judge when to fire to get the kill for the reasons below: DOT (fires/flooding) The number of ships that might be able to fire on any give enemy can be much higher than WoT with its corridors Dispersion (6 shells hitting vs 1 or none) ...coupled with massive variation in shot damage (over-pens vs citadel hits) Add to that, as I mention above, I'm going to take out any ship I can if it is shooting at me or my team mates then it is tough s*** if I get the final shells. I'm not sitting there waiting for someone else to reload or miss twice just because they did the first 80% of damage. Why would and why should I?

I guess you would never start shooting at a ship that your team mates have taken to low health. You would leave it sailing around, potentially killing you or your team mates because that kill belongs to them, right?