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Adam był wielkim człowiekiem i niezwykłym poetą. Aczkolwiek, w wieku szkolnym wątpię w Twoje zdolności pojmowania tego rodzaju literatury. Adaś nasz kochany za to, miał niezwykły talent. Potrafił dla przykładu, w środku grubej impry wstać i zasunąć doskonałym technicznie i merytorycznie wierszem improwizowanym. W ówczesnym świecie panny moczyły sobie krynoliny w obliczu takiego talentu, więc chociażby to powinno być zrozumiałe dla nabuzowanego hormonami licealisty

Zdajesz sobie sprawę, że rozmawiasz z filologiem polskim?

Roon is a beast. Of course, it's tier IX CA, so a subpar vessel, but it's very good CA apart from that. However, didn't encounter a skilled player in this ship yet. Would like to see how it goes in my Des Moines against a skilled Roon (and Hindenburg in fact) players.

Mickiewicz retard? Gdzie się zgłasza chęć wszczęcia referendum o wyrzuceniu członka klanu z klanu?

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Akurat Dianka to ma Ekspert w wyburzaniu wbity Ty baart lepiej wklejaj screeny, Atago chyba nie masz, a to teraz taki mini pancernik

Wiadomka. Innej opcji nie przewiduję

Chamsko podbijam, jeszcze tydzień. Przypominam o nagrodzie - wygrany dostanie Atago lub jego ekwiwalent w dublonach jeżeli ktoś już takowego posiada.

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incoming vonPletz posts in 3...2...1... Funny how I see a lot of Konigsbergs and Nurnbergs. And at tier VIII, apart from there are more Hippers then there are Mogami's. BTW. If there will be some nice rewards for rankeds, I plan on getting Hipper and gimping it for DD hunter - hydro+spotting module+vigilance - around 10 km perma spotting range with hydro active.

Podbijam, bo coś się nie staracie

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Oh? Then why there was almost none CA on rankeds? Cause their role was perfectly fulfilled by DD's, RU and US ones. Why no one takes more then 1 CA for german tier VIII league? How do you want to spot a DD with a CA? Enlighten me, please. I'm terrible? Just because I'm not statwhoring and playing for the highest average dmg possible, it means I'm terrible and doing bad in them? I guess that overall 62% win rate is just god damn awfull. What a load of crap dude. BTW, BB's are my personal experiment class - I test how much they can take and survive and how easy for them is to win a game just by sheer tanking. Which, in fact, my stats reflect perfectly. I'm a terribad player in your opinion, and yet I achieve win rates above 60%. BB = balanced, again, your logic is just flawless. The absolut best part is: you have 63% win rate in your BB's having twice as much games in them. AYYYY LMAO! Just... lulz. But, as far as I'm concerned? Feel free to uninstall. Well balanced? For who? Who thinks this game is anything near balanced without CV's? And rock - paper -scissor balance? Are we still in alpha phase? Let's even assume for the sake of having me giggle, that they didn't back from that mechanic like 1,5 year ago. Let's assume you're right, and they are still trying to perfect it. Who counter BB? - DD's don't counter them, they are just slowing them down. Cause it's easier to just park your Yamato at point X, having your front covered by invisible DD, who spot torps for you and protect you from flanking. This leads to games that are gravitating towards blobs of 3 - 4 static BB, who just sail at 1/4 speed forward and backward, shooting other BB who are also turned towards them for sick 4k hits on each other. - CA's don't counter BB, that's obvious, and @ironhammer500 - just stop posting bro, leave it be man. CA's hunting BB's with torps. - BB's don't counter other BB's cause of the way the game is played. There is very low movement of the map, no playing the flanks etc. Cause without CV's, you don't know if there is a Shimakaze lurking behind that corner. So it's safer to work your advantage shooting HE at other BB and eating 1 torpedo every 3 minutes. Just waiting for that one BB to get bored and show it's side, or that lucky citadel. - CV's don't counter BB's cause apart from tier IX and X US CV, they have been nerfed and bugged to oblivion, making playing them just nor fun. No sane CV skipper wishes for return of the class from CBT and OBT "best" days. No one wants 20 torpedo drop from Haku anymore. With equall MM and fighter decks, catapult fighters, US DD AA skill, changes and nerfs for CV it is hard to hit with a good torpedo drop. And, of course, there is the dmg reduction that BB players have - anything between 17% for most US ones, to 59% for Yamato. Recently torped Tirpitz from ranger, and each torp did 5000 - to 5900 dmg. So, overall, after hitting 3 of them, it equalled one citadel from a 406 mm BB, or 4 well placed HE salvoes from a CA into fresh BB with undestroyed superstructures. And such "devastating" attack takes 4 minutes to perform. So, just on a BB example, this rock - paper - scissors scheme is failing at just one class, not to mention other 2, with their own set of problems. Of course, Zao was too good for BB players, so they had to nerf it down. Not that it was the only CA that actually performed on "similar" lvl that BB's (only small 20k average dmg difference, oh, hell, that's almost the same as BB and CV have! on high tiers) - it got nerfed, and it actually hurts it very much. Now, CV players (and me also) agree, that Midway and Essex are a bit overperforming. Planes are too fast/have too much HP whatever argument you use, and that they should be toned down. Recent addition to IJN torpedo spread is also a nice change, and one that was looked for a long time. It already made few of the CV captain's back, which is great. Is that a novelty issue, don't know, but it's great. You are concerned about OMG CV FINGER OF DEATH comeback. And I'm afraid that this game is just getting worse and worse. It was much more well balanced back in CBT, then it is now. And that saddens me, cause I love warships and naval battle and would love to make this game more fun. Shame you don't see it that way, and think that removing this one counter (and up to tier IX it's hardly worth calling a counter at all) to BB's all together from this game is more healthy for this production. Which 5.1 patch notes? Hitting the citadel bug? As for the rest, yes, of course each class has it own "mafia". Hell, I'm self proclaimed Don of the CA mafia. But I at least try to be objective, to base my comments and opinions on in-game situations, and observations from wider perspective. I also try to play each class, despite maining CA's. Changes are good, shifting the meta and all. Currently, from the few patches back that destroyed CV gameplay (quick after OBT launch), meta has stagnated with BB dominance and recent DD increase in numbers. Ranked games just proves my point - which is bad actually, cause it shows the poor state of WoWs all together.

If it insults you it's ok. Maybe you start thinking before you post stuff such like this: Again, I'm asking, are we having a discussion here? Because I don't play CV's (100 games is not enough for me to state a opinion), but I main CA's. And without CV's, CA's are just redundant. Without CV's being a constant danger for BB's, games are slow, stagnant, boring. They become a 20 km range slugfest between BB's and 20 minute of stealth torping by DD's. Oh boy, I would love that, but my knowledge of people provides me with enough insight, to know it's futile. BB lobby is the strongest in WoW, and the outrage at ANY attempt to balance this class (aka nerfing) - it's futile.

Nephi jest taka fajna meme maskotka forum ostatnio. Oh well.

Bro, you claim that BB has a death wish when entering 10km range with CA equipped with cruisers. I'm pretty confident that engaging in any kind of argument with you is just waste of time. I'm all for buffing/redesigning CV to hit BB's with counterhammer. rofl stomping CA's by BB is ok, cause "they are their hard counter", but when BB player is countered by a CV (you know, the king of BB counter historically btw) - that's OP and should get nerfed. Logic ftw.

But cmon man, are we having a real discussion here? How are you gonna argue with a BB player, that says "my 85 AA BB is being sunk by a tier X CV, tier VIII CV would lose all planes in such attack". I'm all game for inteligent discussion, but this topic is just ridiculous to the point of comedy.

Boy o boy, so basically you want, as full AA gimped BB to be immune to CV attack from the same tier... Can BB players get more obnoxious?

same to you. jak tam organizowanie drużyn idzie?

A będzie jakiś grubszy giveaway że całe EU community z Ciebie trycha?

WR is skewed in so many ways it's pointless to use it as anything more then random number. All that matters when you look at statistics is win rate and average dmg. WR doesn't matter. You cap one base and you get better WR then BB that did 200k dmg, which is of course BS. You sunk one DD and you get more WR then sinking full HP BB. Thats WR for you, great measurement. And actually his statistics are around 60% in rate, 130k average for Yamato, 100k average for Iowa. Yeah. He's a baddy. But, I think I made my point. You either don't know what you're talking about, or afraid you won't be able to be a king of the game anymore when CV will be buffed. Shame shame shame.

Oooooh, cool mate. Hey, can I use this argument too? Most of my games I division with my mate who mains BB's - he can't use teamspeak cause he got mouth full of keyboard buttons from facerolling. Alas, he got 120k averages on Yamato. So I have the perspective from a BB player... Greeeat. That's the most ridiculous argument you used up to now.

Aight m8 Keep on rocking and make me giggle For the stuff you wrote, your experience in CA's and CV's and BB's is too limited to discuss properly. Have a nice day bro.

I'll actually disagree with everything you said, and let me break it down for you: He's not. Good BB player will often one- or two- shot a CA. Especially when BB hit their power spikes on tier VIII games. However, even if they don't blow up a CA in one volley, they usually leave him with half or a third of it's HP, forcing him to become very defensive, carefull and usually disengage from fight. Which in turn, leaves place for DD to launch their torps from closer ranges, and with lesser risk of said torps being detected by a screening CA or it's fighter plane. BS. If you are fully aware, and Midway/Essex aren't present in the game, you will eat two in the worst case scenario, or none if you play it right. Again, even if you do eat, say, three of them, thats sums up to one big citadel hit. Sick dmg for 4 minute cooldown attack. Of course, seeing how BB skippers are playing now, just "lol I point my bow towards you and you can't citadel me" style, this big, 13k hit must be a heavy blow to your psyche. As for the second sentence, that's also BS. With the way dispersion and immense penetration from guns 406mm caliber works, all you need is one stray shell landing on the stern of CA and you get a citadel. It doesn't matter if the CA skipper will dodge, slow down, angle whatever, dispersion will do it's work for you. No sane CA skipper will try to shorten the distance of the engagement from tier VII upwards. They will try to pling you from 15 km, getting 1,5 - 3k dmg hits, every 15 seconds, while you will miss one salvoe, then hit for 5k second, then miss, then hit for 20k forth salvoe. And in those 2 minutes, CA skipper will shoot 8 salvoes, for total 20k (which is 1/3 of BB HP pool) which will "force" you to plop your damage party, and regain almost all of that HP back. I agree that he's exaggerating here. Well, since you can't control them (which would be awesome and very usefull in fact), they are kinda RNG stuff. Again, fighter planes are a very small nuisance, so I also agree he's exaggerating again. That's another BS. If BB is "aware" that somewhere around him is a DD, he will dodge 90% of the torpedoe attacks. Again, since BB's are now playing their games "hit me on front baby", DD can't really flank it to launch torps to it's side, cause he would have to flank whole battle line, which is not possible long after half of the battle. Since then they are usually spotted, BB's are aware that DD's are being near, and it usually means "no dice" for DD's. Not true, unless you have to make a full turn or smth similiar. Most of the time you just adjust your course by few degrees, and that's no problem for turrets to compensate. Also, most of this stuff happens when you're on reload time, so thats even less of an issue. Although, it must be very hard to wait those 5 seconds with your guns reloaded. Also, spotting DD is usually done by CV's, but I'm sure that the prospect of actually sailing your BB and not siegeing for whole game must be outrageous. Because they: a) are the least manouverable ships in the game with high profile - easy to hit. b) are very prone to citadels, penetrations and full HE dmg hits - pump your average dmg even more. c) have dmg potential and spotting abilities - sunk CV and protect yours? You have your equivalent of radar in WoWs. Well, you are in such postion as a BB. You just mash your mouse every 30 second with your forehead and get citadels and 10k dmg penetrations right? Oh, I get it, you 64k Fuso average was a result of immense skillz and knowledge of the game, while your 45k average with Cleveland or 50k with Myoko is just teams dragging you back? Since it's just impossible to get hit when driving a CA, why are you having 20k less average on such DPS monster as Cleveland? Or 15k less in such a beast of a CA as Myoko?

I have a bottle of Carlsberg too! This topic is the shizzle.