Oh_Crap_iTs_A_Cv

Having joined recently this is a great clan with great like minded individuals

As a longer-term player who posts very little, I think that overall Midway will continue to crap on teams if played right, Haku players will ignore their rockets and focus on bb and cruiser drops (they pretty much did anyway) Immelman and FDR will give very little care to the change as one doesn't have rockets the other used them on harder targets anyway if at all. Audi can just carpet bomb a DD if played right, no in all of this even with a 1.5 second delay I feel sorry for the MVR, with the AP bomb dispersion change now followed by the rocket changes its another nail to a german line ship. Sure the premium lower tier ships will feel it more but life goes on.... I think the change is not well implemented but that seems to be par for the course these days, if anything the visual queue would of been enough to give some DD players warning... however the ones getting hit were pretty much brain dead most of the time anyway. All CV players and most decent players know (other than FDR) its not so much the damage output on average, it's the spotting that wrecks the game. Meanwhile, a lot of the CV community were DD players anyway so will reap the rewards either way ;) Part of the post where removed for violating the forum rules. - Forum Moderation Team

@padds01 Thanks for your post, I primarily play DD's and I have many CV as well, I can see both sides of the argument, I do think the invisible flak of doom needs to be fixed (as much as some of the desync issues that have plagued the game of late), I also feel the new DD's offer great prospects for countering CV drops though decent CV players still blow my Ostergotland away rather easily, where I sit in truth is I still feel that rocket planes are bad by design, while they serve a function (though its easier to dive-bomb DD's with some of the CV's - looking at you Kaga) most DD players complaint is your still dealing with a pretty naff RNG system (Flak) and a pretty crap RNG system (Rocket Accuracy) DDs have enough to deal with already being hated by most but imo DD is still a high skill ceiling class lets be honest and that explains some of the hate, often you just cant do anything about CVs and this had made a large proportion of Destroyers less than favourable (looking at you Z52) so to the point both classes need work, and the issue is wargaming currently is not as focused as it should be on addressing these issues , they are unlikely to remove rocket planes for example, why would you after all, as for AA well its been reinvented so many times again, why would they? What I can say is AA solo monsters don't exist these days so CVs ca easily pick on solo ships, then again as a CV player try explaining to any non CV player what it feels like to fly directly into 2 ships with AA bubbles, it can be super painful, that's why as you well know most of us either scoop drop to avoid flak or drop one flight and then hightail to altitude. All this combined leads to hate on both sides. Two final thoughts, do not despair though because soon both DD and CV players can unite in equal hatred as submarines come into the game, which you cant counter and us poor DD players will get shouted at by some douche in a BB to go depth charge in the middle of open water, thats when we're not getting shouted at to Cap while there are seven radar cruisers going mine, mine, mine, mine, mine.

Not the best or worst DD player but my thoughts would be thus Gearing - either slight boost to relead or more health, giving it a heal like Daring would feel a bit too far... Khaba - I swapped to Tashkent for obvious reasons, Range and Torp Range, it really should not be worse and adding the range to both would just put it back where it belongs... Z-52 - Its guns are the issue.... it cant knife fight so it becomes redundant even with its great hydro setup. it feels like its not sure where it wants to be or what it wants to be. if you want to be super radical though you could just grant all DD's healing from tier 9 like Cruisers and BBs and then balance accordingly