piritskenyer

The amount of stupid in this thread is astonishing... Mauled left and right? Oh right. The only opponent which truly mauled them were the Japanese. The Germans? Not so much. The U-boats kicked off the war pretty effectively, but I'd hardly call a submarine campaign with a 75% loss ratio successful. Why are you even complaining about the decisions the RN made? They were perfectly logical. They sent what they had available against Bismarck (FYI Prince of Wales finished fitting out almost a year after Bismarck - who's the old ship now?). Did they sink Bismarck? They did. Did they lose a ship (that was at risk of being sunk anyway - because that's the nature of a naval engagement, dummy! - and was scheduled for a complete overhaul)? They did. They sent older ships along for the too, why may that be? Oh right. Because they had older ships. Because they had already beaten the Germans once on sea. Something you don't seem to grasp here: Ships aren't selected for engagements based on their age. They are selected based on capabilities.

Today after much suckage in the Karlsruhe, I got reunited with this dame of a ship. That 15km stock range is still almost OP

Disagree. I just raped a Nürnberg, after engaging him at half HP. He was full HP, I was half, I ended up taking around 2k damage, and I took nearly all his HP, but he was killed by a torp before I could finish him off. That said, I just can't catch a break in this ship today: I could not get a win today yet, but I managed this, and I suspect I could have taken it if the timer hadn't ran down... EDIT: And I just now realised that I forgot to set the replay recordings. FML.

She is just lovely. A real joy to play. I haven't had a pronouncedly bad game with her yet, the worst game with her still qualifies as good-ish by anybody's standards. And then she goes and does this for me: Remember, she's still completely stock!

I got her today, since I didn't have the gold to retrain my Furutaka cpt (will have, just not now), I put in a 10k-1skill cpt and ran my first match, and man, what a ship. No upgrades, no mods, a one-skill, bear-arse captain and I already love the ship. the rate of fire is just so comfortable, you can omnomnom enemy cruisers. I'm so looking forward to this ship being top, kitted and with a decent cpt. Fun times ahead!

You get 1mil when you reach SR7 and 2mil when you reach SR9, and I checked, it hasn't been all just pushed up to SR11. SR11 gets an additional 3mil credit bonus. Idiot...... Now that that's out of the way, may I inquire as to why we don't have our 3mil added to our account? I was counting on that money for some purchases. EDIT: also, suggest you don't listen to the responses of WG support, half the time they are clueless. They only get their head up when there is actual money involved. Not that I blame them or anything.

*in best Cartman voice* I'm sorry, I'm sorry, what I meant was: I never noticed it had any armour, because every shot I took smashed me. There. Indeed the firing arc was nice in that I could fire pretty far forward, but every time I saw a BB staring back at me, I'd just turn the ship towards them and pray the small target profile would make them miss. I don't remember bouncing one BB shot (not like I remember bouncing any other shots, but that's a different matter) throughout her service with me. I don'T really remember getting citadel'd either though, so I guess that counts? Somehow despite all her flaws I prefer the Pepsi over the Cleve, hands down. Maybe it's because I'm much more concious of the ship's shortcomings and can use her much better, but the point is that I feel much more in control with the Pepsi than with a Cleveland. Now only if her detection range wasn't crap...

What armour is that? I can't remember ever taking a non-damaging hit in the Cleveland. That's why her size and lack of agility always bothered me. She felt like a big sluggish whale, but I eventually managed to make her work despite that (in no small part thanks to the rudder mod ). I have great expectations for the Aoba. I never played her (didn'T have the patience to grind through the Furutaka in CBT*), and I never really appreciated the 8" armament until I got to the Pensacola, at which point it was practically too late to get the IJN CA's underway. So. Expectations. I expect her to be just as fragile as her predecessor. But I also expect her to have decent armour in the frontal arc, since that is practiacally all I ever want to show the enemy if I can . 2/3 of the firepower is mounted to the front, and I want to make the most of that and show as less of my bradside as possible. Of course I will still do it, but only when I have a high chance of sinking the enemy in one salvo or if I know I can get a full salvo or two out safely before they are able to shoot back at me. I don't expect mush from the torps however. Not because they are bad, simply because I'm not someone to line up torp runs in CA's (well, not usually). Sure, dropping them when the opportunity presents itself is a must, but I consider them more as an extra rather than something to use as a primary damage dealing asset. Well, these are the expectations, let's see how they are met or not met (in which case I hope I will be pleasantly surprised rather than disappointed) *: no, I don't have CBT stats because I played CBT in an alt account - that actually got a CBT invite...

I was trying to be funny and mimic the keyboard warriors Well, at least senpai noticed me Aaaand gj again Most I ever managed in the Kuma was 6 kills, 2 of which while on less than 100 HP.

What you guys seem to not take into consideration when it comes to the KGV, is that she could be balanced with higher-ish DPM for a lower damage/round setup. Supposing she indeed is T8, it'd look like this: The NC now has 2 rpm/barrel for a combined rpm of 2 x 9 = 18 total rpm which in turn means a combined potential damage/minute of 18 x 13100 = 235800 The Amagi now has: 2 rpm/barrel for a combined rpm of 2 x 10 = 20 total rpm which in turn means a combined potential damage/minute of 20 x 12600 = 252000 Compared to this, let's say the KGV has guns that do 10-10.5k dmg/shot (like most 14" guns). If we have to reach a dpm of 250000, that means that 250000 / (10 x 10500) = 2,38 rpm. Now if we bump that to 2.4 or 2.5, we get 252000 (exacty that of the Amagi) or 262500 dpm respectively. Now if I understand things correctly the 14" guns of the KGV were designed to have better armour penetration than previous designs, meaning that you should be able to land damaging hits more effectively.

That's a crapargument regarding how good the ships were, you know. If the number of people was to determine wether something is good or bad, then idiocy would be considered good and intelligence bad... oh wait... I don't even... The Hood was a Battlecruiser (to be refitted as a fast BB) and not a boat "Sent to its death" - u wut m8? In war everyone is potentially sent to their death, and noone would have imagined Hood would take the first hit to the bloody magazine... "boat killed by planes" - again: u wut m8? The Bismark was sent to the bottom by the combined firepower of HMS King George V (BL 14" x10), HMS Rodney (BL 16" x9, 24,5" trop x2), HMS Norfolk and Dorsetshire (BL 8" x8 each). Bismark was shot up to the point where none of her guns were left functioning and she was basically a floating, burning wreck with engines. She was scuttled by her own crew when they suspected the brits may try to salvage the hull (which at that point was in pretty good shape considering). Oh and that other thing? HMS Barham HMS Ark Royal HMS Prince of Wales HMS Repulse and the list goes on and on and on. We're talking about a war here, where casualties must occur and ships (being the most complex and expensive machines of war) are rarely thrown into the fire for no good reason (notable exception: HMS Campbeltown). I would like you to shut your trap about things you don't know anything.

You could easily put the Hermelin at tier 3 or 4 with stats boosted with the ships coming after her being put down before. I recently ragesold the [edited]Karlsruhe because she was just so inadequate. HE spam doesn't work, AP spam doesn'T work. If it had been only losses where I came out with a fair amount of damage, I would have been fine with her, but losses and no damage (St Louis just eats these for breakfast and then some). I sold the Karlsruhe and bought a St Louis. Slinging AP all around myself and oh my god I can totally just be OP as all hell. I'm clubbing seals, reducing my frustration and I'm grinding credits. Win-win.

HMS Nelson's 24.5" fixed-forward submerged torpedo tubes would be quite fun though.

As the title says. I have found that spamming nothing but HE works much much better than AP even against ships like the Phoenix. Thoughts?

I got pretty good results firing AP, tbh. Not many games played (4 all in all ) but at mid-short ranges I'll stand by what I said about the AP. The Furutaka is never a really hard target to cithit (at least from overall experience playing the relevant tiers).

HARDER! HARDER! Carry harder! MUST CARRY HARDER Both matches were lost because I basically didn't have the range to hit the enemy ships as soon as possible (I'm grinding towards the FCS) You will note that if not for the xp modifier of the winning team, I would have exceeded the enemy top xp earner's xp in the second match, and I would have bloody well neared the guy in the first one. I swear 10 rounds of AP to a broadside is when the magic happens. Oneshotting an Omaha from nearly full-health is just pure sealclubbing. Oneshotting a half-health Myoko after chasing down an Atlanta on the other hand is just exhilarating.

Strange. Yesterday I sent a full salvo of 5.5" AP into the flat broadside of a Phoenix at 5-6km range and all I got was 700 damage... I switched back to HE and I reliably managed to plug people for 3-4k dmg per salvo. I know this sounds noobish and all, but 6" AP has worked waaaaay better on the USN ships and I only fire AP from 8" guns. Since I got no satisfying results with the 5.5", I thought I may as well ask.

I have to agree with Panocek here (hi Pano btw), when completely upgraded, she's one hell of a ship. If one knows what one's doing that is. The upgraded guns have pretty good penetration and accuracy and if you can shoot just about any cruiser in the broadside, you just made a shitton of money in one doubleclick

I just bought the guns and remember why I loved her in CBT. I still don't have the range, but I came up as top xp in my two matches since I have the guns unlocked. Both matches were losses, but both were matches where I didn'T feel useless. I can finally effectively screen and shoot stuff. Being detected right off the bat in any match is still fu...ng annoying, but I'm finally able to react to situations effectively. I can take evasive action when I'm fired at and still expect my guns to be pointing where I want it to WHEN I want it to. Huge improvement. Oh yeah, and I got called an aimbotter by an enemy atlanta after I triple-citadeled and thus single-salvoed him, while I was chasing him down.

Simple suggestion really: Maybe we could have the ship section taken apart inmto different nation subsections? IJN, USN, RN, VMF, KM, etc. and under those we'd have BB, CA, DD, CV. Or it could be the other way around, having the ship classes as the main subsections (like we have it now), and have the different nations under those. It would make it much easier to get theoretical discussions started for nations that are not or not fully implemented yet. Just a thought

The problem is that from all the cruisers around you are the one who gets noticed first. In fact, your detection range is only lower than that of BB's. And since smart players know that you need to take the DPM out of the game in order to augment your chance to win, they'll focus the CA's.

Okay, so first things first: right now (0407 on 20151006) I'm still slightly tipsy. This is a semi rant, semi laugh-off thread (or so it is intended to be) In 6 games I played, I got 6 defeats. And oh boy did I see the flavour of stupid players all around. I am not in form myself, running face-first into a couple of enemy BB's backed up by 4 CA's, but the sheer amount of retardedness outdoes me by far. As a Pepsi-grinder I can still blame the ship for doing badly, but after seeing top tier DD's (Hatsuharu, Kagero) run off and get slaughtered by enemy CA's for no more than one torp drop, then the friendly CA's dying within 3 minutes of the game's beggining and top tier BB's not wanting to let go of the A, J, 1 and 10 lines, I think I've seen it all. In these 5 games in the semi-stock Pepsi (only the hull unlocked, go figure...) I've managed top place on the team 4 (!?!) times. Four. In these four matches, I was top tier twice once. A single time. And then after sinking two CA's and being the last guy standing on my team the friendly Hatsuharu (who ran off and died miserably in the first 3 minutes) starts telling me that I need to be using the LMB. Well thank-fking-you, do you need instructions on how not to die 3 minutes into the game? Oh well. I guess it's like ye ole' Led Zep sings: "Good times, bad times, you know I had my share"

I don't mind the Cleve where it's at, I don't mind the Pepsi much (used to love her in CB), all I want is for her detection range be at about 13.5-ish km's instead of the max gunrange she has now.

It should be put down to T IX and USS Alaska put in as the TX cruiser. If you catch my drift ;)