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http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/14258-basics-spotting-mechanics/ -> don't stop reading at the top, it also covers smoke ;)

You played with poles I've played with Polish people No, but I was a 46% almost 45% deep orange WoT player and one of the reasons I'm now > 50% and near blue ( well I was when I last played which been ages I admit so idk now ) was because I could use XVM to see in game who I should pay attention to and support. The whole 'you're bad because XXXX' and 'I know better because YYYY' never works, human psychi disallows anything useful coming from being perceptually insulted. Either way, I've said this a couple of times in the skype channel: I want to be able to see an indication of proficientness, I don't need win rate or wnX or whatever as long as it's trustworthy. So if the karma system will work out that way, I'm happy because I both have my indication and the people who fear statistics will bring more toxicity will have that fear quelled. But that doesn't change the fact that I don't think hiding stats will have a positive outcome on the game. What I do admit is that that one incident seems to weigh heavily on me, maybe I should be somewhat less salty

But that is exactly what I said actually, I don't per se want XVM but I also don't want people to hide their stats.

It is a lot easier to report people using 'yo mama' instead of 'you 4x% wr naab' comments that I agree on. Also, the [edited] part is 100% right, XVM did introduce wnX and EFF to the masses, and especially the [edited] ( cap points ) was so abundant in WoT it was on the brake of being hilarious ( everyone trying to sneak in some more cap points before match would end ).

Can't do anything but agree to that edit: Going to clarify what I mean just in case ;) It's expensive not in the F2P model, excluding high tier in game economy which should be/get fixed, but it's expensive outside of the F2P model. The premium ship bundles have nothing to do with F2P, they are a problem not related to the F2P model.

That happened to me a couple of times already. And then I won the game. Or vice verse, I called someone a noob and then I died and he won the game. But do you really think hiding stats will make this in any way less? People will still be toxic, they will just not resort to using actual statistics. edit: Boy reading back I'm the only one 'defending' having an indication of ability of the people you play with ( no I don't need XVM per se, but hiding stats will not make things better ). If it does get better, I will be the first to say I was wrong!

Sure but again, F2P has nothing to do with how commodities/assets in game are being offered. F2P model run's about premium time/assets ( ships with extra port slots, as vogel pointed out ), enabling easier access to 'end game content'. The way assets are sold have nothing to do with this model so bringing it up has no relevance. The store sells commodities/assets, there are different regions and all those regions have differences in what they offer and for how much. This is the issue at hand, and it has nothing to do with 'it's free2play so people shouldn't complain about things they CAN buy'. Sorry, I can't think of another way to say it I thought i was clear on my point earlier but it seems not

There are always exceptions, it only re enforces the rule. And if the entire team is around your level, why the heck should you not be the one giving advice and trying 'new stuff'? You should! And that's how you learn, by trying things ( well some try and never learn but that's a different storey! ). The point is, team's usually have a wide range of players ranking from the top straight to the bottom. I just want everyone to be able to see the difference, before such 'bad advice' leads to people just starting to ignore everyone because too many people who don't know what they are talking about are still running their mouth and causing others to fail because of it.

Idk, I see it as a work in progress ;) WG has said they're looking at other ways to make it useful, I think this is a valid proposal.

And why is that? Because they don't know! Best argument for XVM, though I'm obviously well aware it won't convince anyone, it's really what I use XVM in WoT for. Who is worth my 100% support, I will die to protect someone who I think has the right skills and tank to win me a match ( if I 100% have to ofc, I don't like dying, not one bit I tell you! ). Not to attack bad players, not to talk about win chance or none of that crap. So like I say, let's hope the karma system will kind of work.... and that it makes distinctions between 'plays well' and 'is helpful in chat' .... the latter doesn't matter when playing to win a game, and should only be shown if you're looking for someone to ask questions to. Granted, 100% correct. So why not just display it from my own team so we can make strategic decisions based on the abilities of our allies? Not displaying statistics for enemy team would also prevent any kind of win chance calculations prior to a match ( you need fog of war ofc ) and it will lower chat abuse ( abuse, because it's not XVM intended use! ). This is exactly the issue! I see 40% win rate players giving advice to others on how to play, how does that work out when they're able to hide the fact they don't know what they are talking about? When we have official training rooms, I think we should make a STGA for WoWs and offer lessons to those interested. That is a way to teach people, in game especially without the ability to look up who is talking, nope not going to work. You're either won't be listened to, or some 40% wr idiot will give an opposite advice, say you need to l2p and continuous to get your team killed.

He could also be referring to XVM leveling services, 1000 bucks might turn your red tomato account into a supadupa purple unicorn account?

True, but looking at the demographic it's the sub 50% [edited] we should worry about the most. Either way, this will happen with or without XVM, and ability to hide stats will just make me shut of chat. No interest in communication with people I can't look up, how am I supposed to know I should be listening carefully ( like when Aerroon would be telling me about carriers... or Sharana for instance ) or when to roll of the floor laughing and crying at the same time because some 40% win rate cretin thinks he actually knows what he is talking about game related? If I can't make that distinction I would rather not see anyone talk. I see to many cretins giving advice to others when they should keep their big trap shut until they've shown they're not just ballast for the rest of the team. So in fact, I think this hiding stats thing is going to be really really really bad for everyone, not just for the noobs who now maybe will start listening to BIGGER noobs ( hey, no way to look someone up and point out it's a 40% win rate 'player' giving advice there ) but also for good players because again how the hell am I supposed to know who is worth risking my hp for ( no, 40% and below cretins are not worth risking hit points for, not in any way shape or form )? The ONLY saving grace we got, is that we got the karma system. This will be abused without a doubt, but I hope people will be using it correctly for the most part and in a way which differentiates the biggest idiots from the normal players so we can use the Karma of our allies to judge while creating a strategy for the match.

No no, the correct term is a Free-To-Pay game. You're free to pay if you want features you don't get when playing for free, often times unlocking some upper part of the economy which isn't viable to play without. In WoWs this is premium time, you need this to maintain credit profitability at the higher tiers. This model has nothing to do with the availability of in game assets/vehicles, which like premium time, offer a bonus in credit profitability allowing faster grinds and allow easier access to high tier content. They can have a F2P model for the economy and still offer these assets outside off bundles, they are in no way related. So mentioning F2P in relation with bundles makes no sense to me, whatsoever

hahahaha ye somehow I never hear this from people who are in the top bracket. XVM is highly motivational Wrong, XVM doesn't damage anything. Yes and this happens with or without XVM. More with XVM because more noobs will be using XVM, but still in essence it's not XVM which creates toxicity it's morons being morons. But frankly I find it much more problematic that there will be ffin 40% win rate IDIOTS which will be able to run their big mouths in chat without ANYONE being able to look them up and turn them into the laughing stock they should be running their big idiot mouths with their cretin like 40% win rate.

Same Yeah I'm actually with you here. I do NOT like the option to hide stats, to many cretins already feel comfortable with their 40% win rate and big mouth in game telling me 'it's only a game'. If WG does this I will likely disable chat, there is no teamwork or interaction needed if I can't filter out the [edited]. It would create a toxic environment because cretins will be allowed to spill their [edited] over an entire team and no one would be able to look the stats up and making a laughing stock out of some 40% cretin which seems to think he can tell others 'it's just a game'. We at least need team battles then, to compensate for the idiot protection added by WG to the cretins playing this game. At least in team battles we can choose players ourselves and you want to bet people will pick other people with comparable or better stats to play with and against, and why would they do that; because playing with cretins is killing the game that's why.

Karlsruhe seems to be doing really bad ( no surprise ). What should be done to make it better?

Don't 'fix' cruisers because MM is failing due to low CV numbers, fix CV's so MM get's balanced again. If there then still is a balancing issue ( and that is extremely likely, it's a constant tuning due to new content/powercreep ) then balance classes in a situation where MM is working as intended. Doing changes now when MM is not working as intended will only cause issues if we get more CV's in high tier games again.

I said I find his arguments and points spot on, not that I learned much or anything from them I didn't know yet. P.S. You really think those points about HE or AP will 'teach' me something?

I have no more arguments, I think Spithas is spot on with his observations. If he was a she I would ask her to have my babies

Just link to proof please, that way I promise I will shut up ok? If you don't, you're just trolling. edit: you were right, you were not the one I had in mind posting about the GE cruisers being broken constantly ( in a non constructive manner, there is nothing wrong with having arguments as to why a certain line is good or bad ). Now that I've actively gone through things and corrected my mistake, could you please substantiate your insinuations as well just out of courtesy?

Meh Ibuki can do stealth, NO I hear to, but frankly I only had a captain with high skill on my top tier ships and that will be Zao and Mogami I think ( both are close to 5th captain skill ). Maybe it's better to say you need a stealth setup CA with a very capable captain to be able to best carry against BB's, and even then if RNGezus says no you just die from a lucky detonation. That being said I still primarily play CA's and I like it, am I a masochist ?

Mhm yes I been so vocally saying there is nothing wrong right? Maybe stop insinuating things, everyone can view my post history so maybe stop making insinuations like a little troll unless you can give some evidence alright? That's a good boy, now back to your room ok? I fully understand what you 'tried to do' but I just told you it's not 'proper' in a friendly manner to tell people what to do, I will bet you your [edited] I'm not the only one thinking that way and maybe someone else isn't as friendly as me Maybe next time, let him make up his own damn mind and not be a crybaby like usual.

Bit over the top don't you think Let him make up his own mind at least , don't try to push your ideas down his throat

If you're that constantly in the top of your team with damage but you're losing because your team dies it seems you're dealing damage from the back to much? You can't constantly get that much worse teams ( ( it's statistically highly improbable at least ), the only real constant is you. Dealing damage is not always as important as where you deal the damage.

Have you played higher than IJN Aoba? I specifically mentioned stealth IJN ships and that's basically high tier only. And who cares if they are on the cap points? It takes time to cap a point, just reset them from distance. Does it always work, no it doesn't. Will it even work at all for everyone, no it won't. But that doesn't mean it's impossible to do so.