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This, pretty much. I only said to look at Marblehead since OP does so well in his Omaha and they are clone's ( B hull with less range though and crappier AA, longer range torps but still not usable due to slow and the bad arc for kiting ). He doesn't do well in his Murmansk though, idk might be he can't lead well enough to use the extra range well enough to offset the loss in dpm.

I own both Sims and Blyskawica, and I fear Atlanta's more then anything but at 10km range they have issues being accurate most of the times. Saipan's, I don't CV so you're probably right ( not like you're the only one saying it's 'pretty balanced' ). Anyway, about the IJN DD's, they lack firepower but they just shift that to their cruisers who will have to deal with the enemy DD's before their own can be most effective ( and yes, that is why I rather take a gunboat, I rather keep things in my own hands especially with the new system of not losing stars based on xp ). But I also played Yorck and I felt ok in it ( more then I would with Myoko.. don't like that one.. and I would probably feel good in Schors as well ). If I felt the incentive to, I would buy back Nagato as I think it's the best tier 7 BB. Still, since RB's are domination I feel quite compelled to play DD's. Gunboat DD's are my favourite class after cruisers, but with my cruisers I feel I can do less for the team.

Those are good points you raise, I've not gone that deep since I didn't play RB's before I knew I already lost out on the ship. Guess I'm playing more to have a better start in next season, that and to get some experience. I've seen two maybe three AFK people on my team, and two on the enemy teams, in all my RB's so far. I haven't played that many games though but considering I'm not that high ranked I was assuming I should be seeing the most of them ( considering they are not that likely to level up much and with the limited amount I seen I am not sure the problem is as big as some make it seem out to be. If someone is actually tracking data on it ( I hope WG is, for one ). it would be interesting to see them so it can be used to gather a more informed opinion don't you agree? I don't know the numbers, and going from my own experience it's not that bad ( or worse then randoms ),

I always check unless OP's post contains info about his experience and current ships and which he likes. Since he didn't I am trying to gather that info from his profile, sadly it's rather limited since statistical performance in ships doesn't always match the enjoyment people have when playing ( which should be the most important thing right ). Case in point: Atlanta syndrome He already had the Murmansk but he performed quite poorly in it, which surprised me since he did the best in his Omaha. So staying close to Omaha clone's I recommended looking at the Marblehead even while almost everyone would agree the Murmansk is the better of the two because of the range penalty.

Recommending tier 8's for someone with 200 battles and nothing > tier 5 in silver ships? Do you like your Murmansk? Doesn't look like it but if you do, Marblehead is basically another Omaha ( with less range ). Otherwise, as tier 5 is your highest tier, I would do everyone and yourself a favor and not buy a tier 8. Any of the low tier premiums might be better suited for you, depending on which class you like the most there are Tachibana's, Emden's, Mikasa's and Aurora's, or Ishizuchi if you like fast but not well armored battleships.

Personally, this is the first season I even tried it, because previously I didn't think it was worth it ( losing stars when having crap teams, and no reward ship being dangled as a carrot ). So obviously I am enjoying it more than the previous one's. If you think I'm 'putting out fires', I'm a volunteer which mostly does really basic 'testing' I am not paid by WG to put out fires nor would I be good at it ( I would likely have a 33% chance of using buckets filled with gasoline instead of water ). But everyone I talked to seems to agree it's better then previous seasons: 1. Not losing stars by playing DD and coming out with most XP even with bad teams -> check 2. Tier 5/6 and 6/7 feel a lot less 'pay2win' to many, tier 8 had mainly Atago/MK as cruisers, 3. In same sense, lower tiers allow more people to play both grind wise and even economy wise Now this doesn't mean there isn't always room for improvement, there is much disgruntlement even about the good changes ( not losing a star, people seem to notice DD's being favourite, some even seem to think this isn't fair and ruins everything ).

People always complain, it's in our nature to complain it seems. And ranked battles are a perfect example. Btw to the above post explaining the XP gain's across different classes, thanks for showing some numbers ( sadly I ran out of likes ). edit: With 'people always complain' I mean, you even got beta testers complaining about 'xp based on percentage of HP you remove' as if it's something new and it will make BB's reign free I also don't like the fact that I lost games I felt I should have either won or where I felt I didn't have a chance, that makes me salty to various degrees. That is where all the complaints come from if you'd ask me. Not directly at anything but a feeling that the MM or RNGezus sometimes seems to have a 'to big' influence.

Rewarding team work ( because when I say the game mode resolves around DD's that's only the 'executive arm' and the whole teams needs to support them doing their jobs. That is why it favors them, they are the leaders in that game mode ) will be very hard to do systematically so I'll be looking forward to that post.

Thanks, added my vote. Most of the things I could say I already said in this thread or others, if I were to summarize them into a concise listing of stances and arguments, I will add it to your thread. In short though: the only issue which imo clearly stands out is that most people feel DD's benefit the most ( because they are usually the top XP scoring players ). And I voted that as well, but I also can't find a fix because it to me seems to be a correct risk/reward ratio. DD's do take the most risks trying to contest cap zone's early game, they run the highest risk of dying first and they are the cause of victory in almost all games ( those which are won by cap points ). Domination games just favour DD's, and you can't change this.

My question is this: show me where you got your 'consensus' from as I would say most people agree this season is better than the previous one's.

1. stop trying to use TAP to quote WG, it doesn't work you'll just cause people to burst out in laughter every time you try. 2. warspite is not the only ship which is affected by seemingly to high draft. 3. so since I bought Warspite exactly in the state she is in now, being at a disadvantage, I will do even better when 'it's fixed'? Whatever 'it' is btw, I don't think it's the draft which causes the 'unexpected damage' taken frontally vs other battleships. Things like ROF and traverse times are firstly done with historical values and only altered based on actual gameplay statistics. Statistically, Warspite is doing fine. Even with all the 'weird' damage it can take, and being on fire so often, those statistics show the ship is not underperforming. So there are two possible causes: the stats are wrong, or people complain because of emotional not rational issues which are not visible in the statistics. Naturally, it's about the latter and not the former. Stats can't show enjoyment ( other then sale count vs number of games played maybe.. ). I quite enjoy Warspite, having gotten her recently I still think she performs good ( if it was so bad as some make it out, my results wouldn't be possible and I'm far from the best or even better Warspite players ). If people want to get something change because if feels wrong in it's current form, there is a need for better describing what feels wrong and why, and how to maybe fix it. And even then, if for instance the ratio between Warspite's sold vs Warspite's being played, show that the ship is both doing normally in regards to results, as well as showing that there is only a negligible portion of the playerbase which owns one who doesn't take her out, you're still going to be fighting a lost fight.

Will you keep streaming WG games Ectar Nah seriously, minecraft is but I like the WoWs games more, and when you switch job you might enjoy the streams a lot more as well as you will get less people asking all kind of inside info I'm counting on those streams to continue... don't let me down

Comments on the performance of others but hides his own profile

Since you can point out your own flaw here, why not try to better yourself?

Blys has been my choice for hits recently as well, taking place of my Sims I guess ( Sims is still good but only on closer ranges ). Blyskawica is just perfect for the mission ( just as Atlanta would be ). you'll get there eventually as long as you keep the positive attitude

So play other classes to, don't blame the rest if people refuse to spread their wings and play more then boringboats ps. I play BoringBoats sometimes as well

Yes she has the least fire resistance for all BB's in her tier, and yes she also has the shortest cool-down of invulnerability when using Emergency Repair consumable. It does, however, have the shortest cool down of that consumable afaik as well. And I would love for all actual gameplay influencing aspect to be visible in port, whish I could +1 the suggestion

As above, but also you can move ARP captains across all the other ARP ships

So, you blame the Warspite for being garbage and only your second best performing battleship after Amagi, and you expect to not get laughed at? Weird, looking at your BB history I would think you would be asking for Fuso buffs, or Kongo's ( if you didn't skip the lower tiers that is ).

Considering average server stats for each, that kind of makes some sense if true

Offering things is nice, but as I asked the first time Discord was mentioned ( not to you, before that ) -> why? Never got an answer. Forumites imo was a spot for EVERYONE, like the freely supplied teamspeak server provides as well. If the whole channel decides to hop over to a better application ( heard good things from Discord btw ). I won't object. But not portions here and portions there, I'm just afraid it will kill off the sense of community

I wouldn't mind it if you paid me, but I won't hold it against you if you don't ;) So, who do you accept as 'authority' on the issue?

I think you just shot yourself in the foot here

No it is true, Sims for instance has a very high XP modifier. Don't know the rest, haven't seen a list ( complete and accurate ) ever, but yes ships have xp and credits coefficients, My Sims vs a Mahan in the same matchup doing the exact same things will get more XP then the Mahan. But, afaik, it is not a rule focused on premiums, there are also 'regular' silver ships with higher then 'normal' coefficients, and perhaps even premiums with below 'normal' coefficients.

Again, splitting up community is not beneficial. How nice will it be when half the forumites are on the teamspeak server(s) and half is on discord? What would new people think of having a shared channel for forumites, when half of them avoids the other half? If there is some ulterior motive to split us up, please provide said motive so we can look at removing it instead of decimating forumites population?!