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Here - Minekaze ( well ok Kamikaze R ) Casual sitting in ONE cap 90% of the game using my smoke and allied spotting and just torping whatever wanted to come and take that cap from my team. Really no skill required, nothing 'special' ( which is why it's not a monster score ) was done I even was afk for a minute due to phone So yeah, Minekaze was imba as hell, maybe not for average joe grinding up the tree with low point captain, but any seal clubber with a decent captain could get good results even without skill.

Well the problem is that WG is a commercial entity, they want to maximize profit that's what companies do. So if their research shows this to be the most beneficial in economic terms ( there are more people who want to play 'casual' than those who want to invest in mechanics and team oriented play ) then this is what will happen and nothing can change that. No offense meant

No. The problem with the long range torps and the invisi firing ( which worked in CBT with proper players ) is that their counters are dependent on teamwork. WG can't force enough teamwork from the new players, hence they NEED to change the mechanics or say no to new players who aren't really interested in the 'old wows' but want 'wot on water' ( WoT also has a history of making concealment less and less of a factor in the game though reasoning for both are off course entirely different and I don't want those to get mixed up here ). In essence: Annoyment is being caused because your cv/allied dd isn't spotting that DD/CA which keeps stealth firing you, WG can't force that CV or DD to not be selfish and/or baddies, so they have to remove the ability in order for the BBabies to stay happy.

Sorry I was wrong ( don't know how I mixed them up though but.. ), I got them on the usual suspects ( Fubuki, Akatsuki and Kagero )

I thought Arizona had the best sigma of the tier 6 BB's but I might be mistaken. I got both the Old Lady and the Arizona, and even at max range that Arizona has excellent grouping ( 12 shells vs 8 though ).

I got free premium cammo on Fubuki, Akatsuki and Kagero ( but not Yugumo ). Don't expect we're going to keep those.. but we can hope right edit: just to clarify, I never ever bought any premium cammo, for any ship, in my life. So freebies all around edit2: wrong ship list, Akatsuki was the one ofc

That hit ratio can be explained by sending torps from second line to the enemy 12km away.... in a German cruiser

Zathreas, Minekaze and Isokaze ( and Umikaze btw ) were OP in the hands of any decent player. I think the nerfs WG done are totally bonkers off course, no surprise there, I mean wtf those torps are not that much better then Sims long range torps And that without giving them guns to compete with other DD's, and yet ofc WG thinks IJN had to good concealment to say safe from those other DD's. Really man, WG seems to hate the concept IJN DD's had when they made the game initially. To bad, it's one of the reasons I liked the game and thought it had potential.

Minekaze and Izokaze were overpowered with their torpedo speed, I can understand a nerf there. My issues is the needless nerf of 10km torps on the high-mid tiers, though yeah ofc WG totally overdid the nerf even on Minekaze. But you got to understand, if you're not a BBaby WG doesn't care about you enough to listen. Rather remove stealth firing in the next update and totally kill the game.

How about you look around before firing torpedo's instead Enjoy the pink you deserved it. edit: btw can't have been closer than 300m, I'll let you educate yourself why as I consider you a lost cause unless you show a big change in attitude.

Ofc it does. giving people missions inside random battles outside of ffin winning the battle with their team is just utterly stupid. Way to actively SABOTAGE TEAMPLAY wargaming, well done well done indeed.

Not about range, just felt the shells 'hung' much longer then I was used to. Yugumo is without a doubt the biggest upgrade over the previous line though, as you say.

News from RU thread iirc.

RU region seemed to like the RU CA's a lot less than the other regions, I wouldn't bet on them liking just any line released with national ships, they have to fulfill certain expectations

Ofc, BBabies are WG's main (only) marketing focus.

You had hope, since if you don't you wouldn't still be around.. Or are you into S&M

They are lying through their teeth. Guess there aren't enough BBabies around yet.

Well I did say 'sane captains' didn't I

I don't drink coolaid sorry. 2x4 is 'just different' to 3x3 right, no biggie at all? All the 10km torps were nerved A LOT. And IJN DD's still got crappy guns in comparison. Not saying it's unplayable, but so far I don't see them being competitive. edit: I'm not even going to mention Mine/Iso because it's perfectly clear these needed a change for the worse. But, did Shima need an ROF nerf? Firechance nerf? Really?

How about you use the forum search instead of asking for the same things as ..... let's say 10k have asked/said before?

How about people stop pretending this split was anything but a straight up nerf for IJN DD's, and I won't complain about the way the split was done. Deal? Only new Kagero is an upgrade the rest .....

Nope, my free xp is NOT going to that money grab, F that. More money for more catering to BBabies, how about nope.

Trying to not lose hope? That's what I'm trying to do

YUp. almost feel bad I left ST, maybe my feedback would have changed their minds... Ow wait, this isn't fairy land right

No, there are no 20km torps in the game. Not one's which any sane captain would use that is. On topic: Why do I feel the arcs on my Yugumo at ranges > 10km are FAR FAR lazier then the old arcs? WG stealth nerfing arcs to cater to BBabies even more ( outside of all the torpedo nerfs )? Might be cognitive bias though, with all this WG drumroll about new GUN BOATS I might have expected a bit to much We can't have IJN compete with RU DD's right, RU dd's really needed that 'BEST FFIN FIRE CHANCE' because their AP is already so weak right