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What is it with all the plebs calling him RNJezus We all know he's a Mexican called Gezus, so full name is RNGezus

Playerbase isn't large enough to facilitate this I believe, or divisions need to be excluded from the 5 min max queue time ( not a good 'solution' imo ).

Well that was the reasoning I know about concerning any upcoming changes the Bisq. In randoms they/WG found it was performing normally but it overperformed in ranked. Maybe you are already at your skill cap. and lots of other Bisq players performed way above their normal skill level in ranked? Not sure where WG based the statement on.

So you're saying Bismarck ( or all/most Hydro equiped ships ) are balanced? The only reason they start with Bis is next ranked season. I hope they will nerf the Hydro on all of them ( shorter range / duration ). I <3 German BB's because they tend to be played less campy, but I hate fighting them because that hydro counters my DD's so hard. In ranked meta, Bismarck was plainly the best BB available. If that doesn't indicate a balancing issue, idk what does. ps. Expect German DD's to be part of next ranked season, Hydro on DD's -> ranked player's dream ( ofc line is not out yet so can't be 100% sure but I'll be willing to make a little wager on it ). edit: The upgraded 62kps 10km torps are actually performing quite nice compared with the stock one's I done 180k dmg I think with Hatsaharu ( was my highest dmg game for a long time... ) yes that means the OLD Hatsaharu. The 'bad' 'turd' Hatsu. So, I will wait a month for stats to stabilize. Also, I never said they are unplayable. They just have worse torpedo's then they had before, and better guns. Which means they are not the specialized anti capital shipping DD's they were when introduced. Which is fine on it's own I guess, but it still sucks that the game is changing so much since the start. It's basically becoming WoWs 2.0 already ( if not a higher version ), and I actually liked WoWs 1.0 very much. Also, I am quite slow in adapting, so a lot of my complaints is just salt that I have to learn a completely new playstyle for a line I already unlocked a long time ago ;) Maybe I can adjust and perform equal or even better, and I would still be salty because it is "not what is used to be".

Rewatching his earlier video he actually never noticed the better dispersion so he thought from the start NM was the better ship. Server stats seem to indicate this assumption isn't correct ( or well, those who buy premiums are more invested in actually performing in them so that helps a lot as well ). I <3 Arizona, I have a higher average damage in it then in my Izumo It's way more versatile as Warspite, because of the range. AAA is a downside but luckily CV's are not that prevalent atm. Also, while the AAA might be meh, I think it has one of the best torpedo bulges of the tier?

The reason of their demise is the playerbase failing to display the teamwork needed in randoms to counter them. That and the crying of the BBabies.

Well I am getting decent performance, the gun performance makes DD life easier in contesting caps ( = winning games ) and offer a steady dmg per game base. The torps aren't terrible either, but I will not say IJN is the anti capital ship DD it used to be.

Lol... I guess people polish turds as well. Seems some people don't want IJN to be THE anti capital ship DD line. Rather be 'universal'. Which is fine, I am getting decent performance so far but it's NOT the BB's nightmare IJN is supposed to be.

Lmao as I thought, no actual argument. One swallow... Now use ARGUMENTS on how the new IJN DD's are better at killing BB's? No? Nothing? Didn't expect anything tbh. Except Fubuki maybe at lower tier since 3x3 is still more flexible. But torps were nerved across the board, that is factual and can not be argued against.

Arizona has gotten a nerf to sigma since then I believe, just wondering if he changed his opinion/playstyle.

Sounds like a typical game for me past weekend, the trick is using chat to agree on something and then to ignore it because minimap shows people going other way I lost quite a bit of karma yesterday because I got so frustrated at the teams that they couldn't stick to a plan and I had to keep plugging holes and adjust to the potato's, and frankly potato's don't like getting advice since dunning-kruger prevents them from realizing how incredibly bad they are.

You mean the 'let's risk getting radar spotted every time I want to launch my main armaments' playstyle? Hell, if you get your concealment down enough and use smoke you'll just get hydro'd by the German BB's, not to mention the new 'premium' BB which will also just radar you ( and remember F3 has less range then ANY radar in the game ). Exactly. The perspective change is: BBabies cried to much about torpedo soup and invisi firing, and WG likes BBabies more then other players since BBabies are a steady income group. They solo play, don't care about teamwork, so they don't get mad at MM giving them other people who don't give a rats behind about teamwork. Much easier to retain those kind of players, so yeah economically it sounds very viable... Unless there are enough players who actually DON'T like this direction and show WG through their wallets. I'm a 100% f2p player atm, no more money to WG.

German DD's replacing IJN as anti capital shipping? LOL, yeah that's why they have sonar, because they are torpedo oriented anti BBaby DD's Come on, you know better than that.

I know the pain But don't give up, the moments there is actual synergy and teamwork/support are the best matches in WoWs

So if I say the new IJN DD's ( in general ) are a downgrade in ability to fight capital ships, you will dismiss it .... how?

Bull. IJN was meant to fight capital ships ( BBabies ). That is why they had the best torps in the game. But the BBabies cried to much, and WG likes the BBaby demography so they cater to them. Yes, they are more universal and the guns are a bit better. Yugumo is a straight buff over Kagero, but the rest is rather meh. All the crap and fluff being said doesn't change the facts, torpedo's have been nerved. Fletcher is a better torpedo boat then Yugumo ( yes, I say that. Yes I know about F3 but it's 8km and therefore not always as useful ). So they buff guns a bit ( and nerf concealment ), yeah you 'feel' more universal but in a gun fight you still lose from equal skilled enemy USN or VMF DD in almost all situations. And you don't have the torpedo's to offset it. Yeah 8km range with the ffin amount of radar cruisers ( and now they adding BB's with radar ) and planes in the air = wonderfull gameplay. Praying to RNGezus they don't remove your skill by the press off a button, or RNGezus to bless your torps so they don't get spotted by planes ( ow wait, you're supposed to shotgun them right.. yeah if I wanted to play DD's like that I would play VMF DD's........ ). They are changing game meta to lower necessity of teamwork. Because they feel that if people can perform more 'on their own' it's more enjoyable and this means better player retention and more income for them. I just hope they realize that if they remove to many actual FUN AND TACTICALLY ENGAGING elements from the game, a LARGE part of the people who, like me, liked the OLD WoWs a lot and not so much the direction we're moving in right now, will eventually just move to other games.

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You mean you had a team where your own DD's and cruisers failed to do their jobs? 5 DD's = still acceptable unless you're a BBaby or when your team sucks. But if your team sucks it doesn't matter what ships the enemy has you will lose anyway. It's much more problematic for cruisers if there are 4+ BB's on the enemy team... 4 DD's would be ideal though. 3 BB + 4 DD + 4 CA/CL + 1 CV seems like a perfect distribution.

Well the new one's are more universal, I mean I seem to do the same damage almost every game very consistent in the things it can do. That was their intention I think, remove dependence of IJN on torpedo's ( lowering torp soup so the BBabies are happier ). Gun performance increase makes up for in the sense that utility of the new DD's is a bit higher. You can fight other DD's a bit better, and you can damage the BBabies a bit less ( well the 10km torps are nerved but not entirely useless ).

Flamu, do you have Arizona?

In this case he is 100% right though. WG did this split in the best way I would expect from WG ( actually nearly perfect imo ). Lots of freebies, lots of advance info so I could rebuy the line and make a nice amount of credits. The only thing they could have done 'better' was giving us the option to shuffle around captains on the new ships ( one time free retrain ) and a skill reset. That would have been the icing on the cake so to say, but even without icing we all still got free cake. Free cake is good.

While watching the stream, I couldn't help but think you must be very lucky to have been in those two matches Though I must say, when I had him in my team he wasn't nearly as salty as he is on stream so

Cynder do you want us to post replays/logs or is it not needed? edit: to late now, log probably cycled already. I do have the replay still ofc.. Just curious what this topic is: post stuff but we don't need additional info as we actually know there are issues and we just want to give community a way to vent ( in a way which shows WG is 'on the job' ), or to gather actual feedback. If it's the last, why is there no request for log files or anything which developers actually can use instead of general feedback which is in WG's own words mostly irrelevant as it doesn't contain the needed details to actually pinpoint and fix something.

Well the Battle of the Java sea is one of the most famous engagements, I would eventually like all the Dutch vessels involved to be in the game but starting with HMLMS De Ruyter would seem to make the most sense historically speaking. It's an unique ship, and it would appeal to lots of people around here ( even if she was insufficiently armed for the time ). However, if they went with the Java class, they could add two ships using the same model which makes more sense from a economic point of view. The Flores class gunboats also seem nice for a tier II/III premium?

@SinkTheOthersNotMe Leningrad with CE is an excellent capper. Also, I would never take tactical advice from anyone who tells other to ignore cap chat. One of the most heard suggestions in this thread is asking for support, that has a reason namely that you should USE chat to your advantage. Not put a sticker over it. Sure it might save you from some salt, but maybe once in a while those people you would rather ignore actually have a point to make. edit: freudian slip?