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With the exception of Leni those ships have quite bad concealment meaning even with RDF they will not immediately able to hunt for the enemy IJN's. That is why I specifically mention USN. So you tried it on PT and you seen how 'not worth taking' it is? Since I did that to, but came to a completely different conclusion. You don't need AFT, you got enough points for both RDF and CE.

Which is utter tosh as for every BB there were multiple cruisers and dozens of destroyers

^^ USN DD's will be a blast to play, very easy to be effective and influential each and every match.

So it's not "never ever" I will concede it was mostly about CV vs CV, since winning air superiority means winning the war since BB's were even during WWII already getting obsolete But no one wants these kinds of battles and it would make boring gameplay, all ships in formation around the CV's screening them and providing additional AAA. So yeah, BB's were the most iconic and it's understandable that they are 'wanted' by people. But this isn't World of Battleships ( well depends on if you google it and look at EU or NA search results ) and for this game to be fun for everyone you can't have overly prolific BB's in each match. Even WG has said this prior, but then they move on with making sure they will become even more problematic.

Yes, and see everyone suddenly sailing only USN DD's and IJN going extinct

Is it start of a game near a cap => DD, If not, the DD isn't doing it's job -> leads to more static play.

Omg wanting 'realism' but not wanting CV's in game... you know why BB's went extinct after WWII right? Because WWII proved they were no longer viable. No CV vs surface fleet engagements? Really? None? Battle of the Sibuyan Sea ring a bell? I already did, I was part of a lot of them ( well the one's trying to point out all this catering to the BBabies wasn't making the game any better, point in case is the current oversaturation of BB's ). And as indicated, the IJN DD's which now have 'a high skill cap' ( ) were shafted the most, so I kind of see where those complaints come from.

You're a liar. I won't even go to the trouble of digging up all the whines and cries about 'fires OP' 'HE spam op' 'carriers to stronk' 'smokescreen is total bullcrap' and the list goes on, you can do that perfectly fine yourself. And what if DD players are complaining? They don't have right to do so? IJN DD players that is, USN should rejoice about the new wonderful RPF addition, I know that IF I won't quit in disgust I will switch to just never playing IJN DD's but hunt them down with my USN DD hunters / torpedo boat hybrids.

The problem with ignoring the total nonsense he keeps blabbering is that WG might consider it valuable feedback and since 'no one' is actually countering his nonsense they might think it's actually true. I know I know, one could expect more from them but come on he's exactly the kind of person who they like to retain for the game, bad enough he won't be able to sustain his high ( or mid.. ) tier ships without paying them money, and 'interested in naval warfare' enough to keep him hooked.

Yes, using your brains and thinking about the concept of a skill which removes tactical usage of concealment

Yup, it's only because I am a total scrub and can't play high skill cap ships Ow wait.... This will make the game MORE passive as being aggressive and using concealment to move up to favorable map positions aka get map control is being stopped in it's track. The skill will result in more camping and more long range sniping. I do agree CV's should be put back into a position of power in relation to BB's ( lower BB AAA ) and compensate this with encouraging / rewarding cruisers escorting the BB's.

It would be boring as hell, subs are to slow submerged and the whole game would need to change. DD's are already the subs of WoWs, and look WG likes nerving them more and more to cater to the BBabies.

But should the whole team go there or just the Cleveland so he can spam over the islands there? Wouldn't really help the Cleveland to go there to find his entire team camping behind him

Maybe they should change it back so it also changes assured ship acquisition range, instead of RDF.

You also don't play IJN DD's, nor high tier IJN cruisers. Which makes it a lot easier to not think of it as game breaking edit: just to indicate that it's quite specific for which class/line this is exactly that -> game breaking.

More bad players doesn't make this game more profitable in the long run.

But we don't have ( and hopefully never will get ) player controlled subs

Radio Silence mechanic would kill teamplay and remove one of the KEY roles of DD's -> spotting. Sure, it would be 'best' that IF RDF is put into the game, Radio Silence is given as an option to, but BEST would still be to just throw the whole RDF idea out of a window together with the guy who thought it up. Tuccy dismissed my fears and after some more checking it appears he is correct and the yaw is provided server side. Aka, no client side modifications can change it to be more EXACT. Changing the image to an arrow, or drawing this arrow on the minimap, would ofc not be a big deal, but it won't be 100% accurate.

Awesome Always glad when better players then me are willing to show me some insight I seem to be lacking

A-150 and H44 would compete with what then? Are there VMF BB's in game more powerful? No? Then it's a mute point. SoDak will come, ST will get Alabama which is a SoDak class and when USN BB line will be split SoDak will be in the tech tree... at tier 8. So idk why you mention that in line with A-150 and H44? ^^

Tell me again why Yugumo has to be within 8km and Fletcher can torp from 10.5 which is a lot safer with all the radar cruisers around? Or Shima within 8km, when Gearing has 16.5km torpedoes? You mean going broadside to the point you expect the enemy DD to be at? Even while moving you won't always have time to react to a good torp salvo when going broadside. Also, have you actually played Yugumo? It's not showing up in your list. Kagero ( now tier 8 ) can't use the F8's anymore . You're obviously a better IJN DD captain then I am, but your words don't seem that applicable to me when I read them. Maybe you could try teaching it to me in game? edit: my good captain is currently in Shiratsuyu and Akizuki so I would have to retrain one of them for Yugumo or Shima, and probably respec to ( if I would take Akizuki for sure ).

CBT, with a playerbase which actually cared about not sucking and having the game catered around them but were able to adapt to the game given by the developers

Afaik in WoT chat bans extend to quick commands? That might be an indication of what WG might do about it someday... not that I agree with that at all, but hey

It's a bit deeper then that actually. BBabies represent a large part of the playerbase because BB's are forgiving, especially for 'snipers' which is what most BBabies tend to do. These are also terrible players ( sniping in a BB kind of indicates this on it's own doesn't it.. ) and because they are such baddies, the economy is pretty rough on them. This leads to the BBabies to having a higher need to spend money on WG for premium time and ships, and they can't sustain their gameplay as well as decent players. Since WG knows these people are their primary milk cows, they cater the game to fit their needs more and more, hoping to retain the baddies ./ BBabies at all cost as they think this will mean the highest possible profit margins. Shinome -> ship which is at limited availability and probably only played by specialized DD mains Fijin / Kamikaze R / Gremyashchy -> ships which are overpowered by nature and no longer sold/available. You can't really use those and claim DD's are the top performers. If you could, we should say CL's are the best ships in the game, just because of Flint ( or Belfast... Fiji... ).