mtm78

I'm at Ognevoi my other VMF DD's are Leni and Gremy... I don't need RDF on those two due to good stealth, and when I get Kiev and Trashcan I will be supporting my team's DD's anyway ( they do the spotting, not me ). Also my Donskoi doesn't have it, IFHE much more useful in current meta. Don't need to hunt that many DD's I got to kill BBSteve's ;)

Flamu says yes edit: but why you ask specific build for prem? I don't have a dedicated captain for MK... my highest point captain is on Donskoi now ( also benefits a lot from IFHE ) and I'm starting to level another captain for Chappy which has even better synergy with Kutuzov.

Yeah I lol'd hard when he said citadels are the cause of the static meta... like...

People who hide their account and then want to talk about class X isn't the cause of Y are stupid BB's are the one's which are the easiest to play. But this patch, though yes FP buff and DE nerf = BB buff ( just as IJN torp nerf = BB buff ), BB's actually have to choose their captain builds more carefully, not much ' universal build for every situation ' possible. Maybe that means we can get some of the BBSteve's into other classes so BB's don't make up over half of the team roster, would be very good for the meta.

Can I admit something? I haven't made a single captain build where I would need it. Even my Donskoi has different priorities ( but hey I am playing with range mod so .,,, ). On the other hand, my Clemson built hasn't been finalized yet. RU Dd's don't need it imo, and my RN Cl's don't have enough point to get a viable build including RDF.

Nope, I had the exact same feeling, Akizuki should have even more daka daka ( to shoot down planes )

Seems like good riddance if you ask me, first complaining about ' toxic community ' and then going off on someone Btw who ever heard of this guy in the first place?

Take care Cynd3r edit: btw video is meant to illustrate that we / community thought we were getting a bigger CC team but we're back to 3 people right now

Ow... ok So I tried, and I got more damage and a higher win rate then with my ' main ' cruiser AND my so called ' broken ' DD class. Got any more? Edit: ow wait, wth am I doing, you play more CO-OP then PVP.....

Are you Thinder's alt account?

They can't get data on infuence on meta from PT server, PT server always has it's own meta due to playerbase mixing and people playing ships they don't play on live. Might sounds ' stupid ' but it is the way it is

I think I would go for this for Bis -> http://shipcomrade.com/captcalc/10000000000000100000000100001001 and I would try both Bigilance as you have now and Superintendend for the extra heal. The questions about ' balanced ' build is quite complicated as I think the whole widening of the skill tree is to prevent getting a viable ' jack of all trades ' and instead force a focus on a certain playstyle. I'm primarily a cruiser main, I find it hard to answer your detailed questions but I hope some BB main's will chip in with their knowledge hopefully exceeding mine edit: Winter King tournament tomorrow, let's see how it impacts that

I thought he was just stupid, but I think we're getting trolled. No one can be that stupid!

Show us your tier 9 no skill torp walls ships?

That would indeed be preferable but I don't think it's going to happen hence the next thing would be making IJN the best torpedo DD's again by lowering this ability on other lines.

Fletcher is anything but mediocre, that's just the thing. Gearing outperforms Shima by a big margin. And I don't want them to lose out in their gun performance, they are close range brawling DD's and they should excel at that. So what should they then not be? And I am not asking for big changes, but decreasing reaction time for their torpedoes would go a long way ( they are almost as fast as IJN and have a MUCH higher concealment ). Something like that, not 100% sure. I do admit that I am not sure how the GE DD's are fitting in the picture yet.

The new skill tree is much wider and it's natural there are much more variable builds. Also, I actually was to harsh, you previously had more usable 1 point skills especially for BB's. So getting an working build might have been easier with lower point captains then it might be now. Can you post your captain build ( for Bismarck )? You can use shipcomrade's captain skill calculator -> http://shipcomrade.com/captcalc Maybe we can help a bit

Because Konig is a seal clubber Ow and you played two games in Konig in the last 7 days, with an average damage of 44k. https://eu.warships.today/player/515980954/Browarszky

So why do you play more cruisers then BB's already ( and both quite bad btw )? You seem to do even worse in battleships then in cruisers, so nothing seems to change for you... just as you still not understanding the game and thinking this patch was a buff to DD's universally, or cruisers universally. While BB's got their big FP buff, helped with the DE nerf ( but HE spammers got IFHE now.... ).

I meant it as in IJN DD's are not ' fine but they require more skill and players are just bad because they can't adapt from the old long range torpedo spamming' ( which is what WG used to say ), but instead WG sees that some ships are problematic and would need changes to be competitive. You got me there, it scares me to. But at least they aren't insulting IJN DD drivers anymore and saying we are just lacking skill. What I would like most btw, isn't big buffs to IJN, but nerfs to USN torpedoes. Make them real DD hunters and not so much better torpedo boats ( arguably ) then IJN. Then remove RPF ofc, as Gearing / Fletcher don't need those indicators to help hunt down Shima's / Yugumo's. And perhaps increase concealment advantage... ow wait, I mean give Shima a concealment advantage over Gearing I mean

ftfy edit: ^^ doesn't only apply to the BB player but also to the guys who should support him

I actually got this from it: 1. RDF is a trail, PT doesn't give us figures how it affects live server, it's mainly a big ' bug test ' and it doesn't indicate changes to meta. But we don't want RDF to be that influential and more importantly we don't want it to be widespread. If we see that to many people are using it we will remove the skill rather than introduce a counter skill like ' silent running '. 2. IJN DD's are NOT fine, they are problematic and we already have ideas on how to fix them but we need even more statistical data from after the line split to ensure we apply those ideas on the right ships in the tree and in the right ' order of magnitude '. Both of those points were my biggest problems with how the developers were approaching the current meta. I might not uninstall...

So you're going to tell WG that NESI has their own private sekrit WoWs server on which they use hax to stetped? Let me know how they react....

Q&A was kinda revealing, changed my mind on things a bit. 1. RDF is a test, they will monitor usage and react if needed ( aka they said it should not influence meta / be widely used, or they would remove it ) 2. IJN DD's are not ' high skill requirement ' but there seems to be an issue, they got some ideas but need more data ( from after the split ) to determine which ideas to use and for which of the IJN DD's they would apply. Way to restore some faith WG, you really did it. I might not uninstall after all. I might even play a game tomorrow... maybe.

The quote is what I reacted on and I already covered you not finding RPF any issue when you play a Fletcher. Jezus man, how about you git gud mtm78 Mostly plays cruisers, especially high-tier and is excellent in them