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Lol you keep claiming it's such low skill and that's why you don't like it, but using a torpedo aim indicator and pressing left mouse button is high skill? Talking about running out of arguments fast.. So you notice you actually have no point and try to go back to ad hominem? I never said it's the only thing which possible could make the game static

I can't help it if WG's website doesn't know the difference between most played and 'best'. My 'best' ships are non premiums, there is just a lot less incentive to keep playing those as they don't train my captains or give me extra credits. If I wanted to pad stats I would be better off playing the ships in which I actually performed 'best'. Imperator I played to bits when I could bully Fuso's / New Mexico's with her. That was fun, I have no shame to admit that. I don't like her NOW though, as bullying Kongo's and New Yorck's just makes me feel dirty. Gremmy is fun, no doubt. And she is OP. And I play her because she has all the good sides of tech tree VMF DD's AND 8km torps. Atago I used to grind CREDITS, bought her right after release. And as said I publicly ON FORUM stated that I didn't think she needed a heal. Want to make more implying statements? Feel free, I can use the laugh.

I didn't put any words in your mouth, none. You're the one trying to make implications which aren't there. And mr STC 'WG can't ever do anything wrong it's always the players who are wrong' calling me laughable is filling me with joy, thanks for the laugh. Failing to understand the distinction between playing ships or thinking they are good for the game, now that is laughable. Or do you want to imply people should act in the game's best interest and not play ships they think are overpowered? Would fit perfectly with your assessment that WG is never wrong about anything. Not to mention I bought Atago because she was the first premium tier 8 CA, and stating publicly ON FORUM even that it didn't need buffs ( aka the heal they added ) since I thought it was ok as it was released. That are 'most played ships' and not...

Stop trying to imply things which aren't true it's rather pathetic. The first premium ship which shows up when I filter my played ships on w/r is Molotov... the 13 ships above that are all non-premium. Ow and did I say WG should release her in the way they did? Did I? So you're saying that not only the game IS pay4advantage, but also that it is a good thing? Ha wow... amazing.

So are you saying I am now allowed to actually say what I thought about those when I was testing them.... But yeah if WG adds them to the game who am I to not play them,,,, even though your character assassination fails when considering I stopped playing Imperator when WG changed it's MM so it only sees tier 5 removing the only fun part of gameplay with it; making tier VI BB's run away across the entire map with a tier IV BB Who said WORSE? Not me anyway, I said they should be equal but different, it's a hard concept to understand I get that.

False. A game with 2 CA's on both team facing 5 or more BB's is far from balanced. But I am getting to the point where I think you're denying this with an agenda because you play torpedo DD's exclusively so this broken static gameplay inducing environment actually suits you. They could, but you've yet to bring forth anything which supports the actual NEED of this. Just because YOU like something or dislike something doesn't mean much if anything. Smoke is far less problematic then BB overpopulation if even problematic at all, and advocating for a change in smoke mechanics besides being unneeded before fixing BB overpopulation would just make the actual problem even bigger. As to heal on DD's, let's ask WG to give us numbers on Kaba players who use heal instead of smoke and their win rate and damage numbers. Or would you let them keep a changed smoke in addition to heal? As to your idea of allowing shooting from behind smoke -> useless. Why you ask? Well because only USN smoke blooms long enough to make smoke screens which actually block los from enemy entirely. And one ship which has los negates the smoke for the whole team. It's just not useful to limit smokescreens in the way you propose.

I think people care more about the perception of balance, namely from comparing silver ships to premium counterparts, then overall in game balance derived from individual gameplay. So, people who look up Belfast and Fiji will conclude that Belfast has radar + concealment module slot + HE ammo, at the expanse of heal, torpedoes and the high normalization RN AP. It looks like a 'trade', and unless people realize what radar+concealment module mean for gameplay they might be mistaken and think it's 'balanced' ( it's not off course ). But, again, please enlighten me why Minsk is balanced with it's premium variant? How come Leningrad can stealth torp with 8km torps while having roughly the same soft stats as Minsk? Anyone looking at those ships would conclude that you can pay to get an advantage. And please let us stop using pay2win, it gives those in denial a way to dismiss the issue since p2w is the wrong term. Pay4advantage is better, even though it's weak as people could confuse it with something like premium time which also gives an advantage. Premiums should offer something unique ( and no WG, that doesn't mean unique like in RADAR on BB's or DD's ). But they don't need to be overall stronger then their tech tree variants.

You got me... NO is also terrible

We must be playing different games Unless you're a VMF Ongnevoi with 1.1km concealment on your 10km torpedoes

Please enlighten me and point out what the Hipper is actually good in?

You seem to meet more bad players then I do then, as most DD's don't sail broadside to my Akizuki.. Ofc, if they do stay broadside they don't last long

Ofc people want to own OP ships, to an extent. But they also want a balanced game where the tech tree ships they are grinding don't constantly face OP premiums ( not that they do, the amount of overperforming premiums vs tech tree variants isn't that bad ). I thought the thing about 'attractive' premiums was: just as strong as their tech tree variant, but with an alternative playstyle. Instead we get Minsk in the tech tree, with Leningrad as premium which is just better along with being a premium you can use to grind credits and train captain's on. Prins Potato is not just impopular because she isn't better then her tech tree cousin, it's also the worst tier 8 CA according to a lot of people.

Here's the thing, imo, smoke gives small ships which are GUN oriented ( you know, we have like uhm... gunboats in this game, how much you keep saying you feel they are actually torpedo boats ) and they have NO armor, NO heal ( well except now a couple of those GUNBOATS ) and if WG goes on with their stealth fire removal they have no way to damage enemy BBabies with gun's without getting seen from across the map... btw I really hope WG changes the mechanics so launching TORPEDOES gives the same concealment penalty, for fairness you know... ). These ships rely on not getting hit. Smoke aids them in not getting hit while damaging the enemy. And all the complaints about 'he spam from smoke' is just crying imo, since no DD can burn down a BB in such a short time UNLESS the BB captain is a> out of position b> has no support (see point A) c> can't manage consumables properly. You see, smoke's are not an issue since they got enough counters already to NOT make them static gameplay inducing. If they DO INDUCE static gameplay it's NOT BECAUSE OF THE MECHANIC but because you got a team of PLEBS which don't know how to counter smoke. Because countering smoke can be pretty dynamic, it also often involves teamplay which is good right... And .. .... lol this is just wrong... why do you think YOU know the role of DD's? It seems you want to force a particular playstyle on them which suits YOUR perception. How about accepting there are other views? edit: and let's not forget how we came here: smoke meta != static gameplay. Overpopulation of BB's = static gameplay.

Yeah, that makes for a lot of target to shoot at.

blah blah... So that is why WG themselves have said BB population is reaching 40% and they NEED to do something about it Give up man, you're talking nonsense.

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I WILL gladly take a friendly torp if some PLEB in a cruiser is torping from second line endangering me. Especially if I need to choose to either die from the enemy because some PLEB torps from second line and forces a turn / stop, or to die directly from the PLEB's torpedoes. There are no accidents. Just PLEBS torpedoing from second line being a PLEB endangering the ships which are in front of them. Want to use torpedoes? BE IN THE FRONT LINE, OR MAKE SURE NO ALLY COULD EVER GET IN THEIR WAY PERIOD. Friendly torpedoes aren't.

Suits the poster if you'd ask me. See above.

No it doesn't, you can't pen higher tier DD's at all with your HE

That's a pretty bold assessment. But very true nonetheless

I would rather the activate voice coms for whole team in domination, but keep the random MM. Getting divisions into ranked would not be a good thing imo.

Yeah but it's the same with Clevelol / Chappy in terms of raw dmg increase no, so I didn't mention it here to not dilute the topic with captain skill changes which affect premiums and tech tree ships alike.

Typical from you, supporting someone who rips off others for their hard work without even giving credit Shouldn't have expected anything else. And I know more then you it seems, like about the laughable request from Sebastian to have a ST 'translate' his stolen RU content while he was posting leaks from unreleased content

Yeah true but I would advice people to use PT for testing silver ships. Sneak preview would be nice for premium content though.

So nice to see the voice of reason to counteract all the crying and whining Sadly I'm running out of likes.