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I'm not a dedicated carrier player, heck I never made it past AS Bogue ( sorry strangers... ) and I still think you're wrong

A lot of those 34 actually voted both options if you check the names Legally, since WG themselves never advertised it as such they are fully in their right. Even if they did, a game wide mechanic change might not always give you a right of a refund. Anyway, if they offered a refund I wouldn't take it anyway, Blys is one of my 'fun' ships and I hardly stealth fire in her.

I am thrilled, it makes it so much easier if we can ask questions directly right Gives way more value to these forums as well ( not saying community team is worthless, but their work is often not transparent so it's hard to always fully appreciate them ). I hope this wasn't a one off, and we will see him more frequently

jammin has player statistics and match analysis, it's much much much better. But hey, maybe WG thinks we should have a quick way to see player stats for replays

On official WG outlets ( aka premium store or wiki .. well it was on the wiki before but it got changed at some point.. wonder why ). Anyway what I wanted to say is that Community Contributors all were quite lyrical about the stealth fire capabilities, and most people buy things not based on Premium Shop description but on reviews from other people. I know, it doesn't imply in any legal way that WG actually advertised it that way, but hey it was in the game and it was a feature of a ship which was seen by reviewers as one of the selling points if you were considering to buy Blys.

That is exactly why I use them, at that point any reasonable discussion is no longer possible. They are aimed at indicating exactly what that display. The point has been argued before that, if possible, and a consensus could not be reached. Opinions differ. Just like with people complaining about anime pictures I guess They aren't more disruptive than the stances of the people they are shown to. In Fact, they only FOLLOW up on disruptive behavior, they don't initiate it. I feel like I should post a laughing picture. Both because you think everyone here wants to have civil discussions. Those who do are never shown those images you dread so much. They are mostly used in regards to players who make statements not worth of further discussions, with hidden profiles to boot... Or at people with 4x% wr who want tell us how the game should be played. There can be a few attempts in getting those people to become reasonable, but there is a point where all hope is lost. And at that point, the pictures are just a reaction to the memes already in play. ps: I was replied to on this forum by Sub_Octavian! Today! About the PTS! Who would have guessed!

Which is indeed my biggest fear and what I seen and noticed on PTS, it's not worth it pushing in first. Normally you killed the enemy DD spotting you and you immediately went back into stealth, now it takes 20s longer. It's a long time, since while you're fighting the enemy DD you will be priority target already so it's not like people have to turn their guns still. It's a really really big change, and I am not sure 5% extra dispersion helps me. Especially when you're evasion tanking on already low hp, the dispersion could even be harmful in many cases. I am very afraid this will lead to more passive playstyle from DD's ( and even now on live you already have many DD's which refuse to contest cap zone's ). ps. thanks for posting on EU forum, we would like more of that please

People who think Blys and/or Gremlin are going to be bad... well I guess Earl had a point when he used the term hilarious Blys benefitted from it but doesn't rely on it. Gremlin benefited from it, but also benefits from 130mm stalinum, excellent speed and turn radius AND having 8km torps on a VMF tier 5 DD. It's also hilarious to punish the BB's on your team, you should stick with punishing the BB's on the enemy team And WG if you don't like the development roadmap so far, just don't spend money on the game.

Out of likes but this is a very good point. Additional RNG isn't something we should want as bandaid on being spotted always.

Yeah range buffs aren't really buffs at all with this 'reworked concealment system'.

I concur! Add the Dutch cruiser now, we had our hazemeijer stabilized bofors on ships which could easilly be tier 4 and 5

I can respect that Like I said, let's hope you're right. I don't think you are though.

Well you aren't crying wolf about it, 'fine' is ofc far fetched but you seem to have accepted it non the less You might be right. I hope you are. I am not certain you are though, esp with claiming PTS attracts the best of the servers... generally there are also a LOT of people who see PTS as their chance to play high tier content they themselves haven't unlocked.

It's actually pretty nice.....

Hasn't been fun to do in Akizuki. Ofc, doesn't apply to VMF DD's at all VMF and GE DD's don't care indeed... but you don't have AFT doesn't mean others do not. Heck taking AFT and AAA consumable seems like a good thing right? But IJN ... has other issues so it's fine. If you look back I actually said the EXACT same things about GE and VMF DD's actually being buffed since effectively they won't be the only DD's spotted at all times so they should get less focus. That is what I seen on PTS so far. You saying it won't transfer over to live? I hope you're right. You mean I should say that BB's aren't being buffed because their concealment penalty is now equal to their gun range? Yeah... about that... signature says enough I think.

I thought it was time for clans.

The truth might be inconvenient, it's never toxic. Look at the chart and now imagine it was made a LOOOONGGG time ago. Seems like it describes the development roadmap pretty accurately. DD = DDady -> cuz they show the BBabies who their real daddy is Idk about the others, don't think there are funny options there ( actually there was a thread about this, and there were some funny things in it but I forgot... ).

But that is not me, or I wouldn't win the amount of games I win.. But hey keep laughing alright See how much FUN it will be when you contest caps and even after winning keep having to dodge shells for 20 seconds. Which will lead to more use of smoke, which will lead to more crying off people that smoke is broken, which will lead to WG nerving smoke, which will finally make this game into a point and shoot leisure game without any tactical depth. Forget about stealth firing nitwits which ONLY stealth fire, the issue IS NOT THERE. The issue is when you kill the DD which was contesting the cap with you, you're still spotted right up till your max gun range. Fun and Engaging gameplay ensured. Also, yeah ofc saying you will leave is not worth anything. That might be pretty hilarious. The effect of this change on gameplay however isn't. or won't be unless I'm mistaken. Let's hope I am.

Yeah, everyone who doesn't enjoy tier X gameplay is a noob man, learn to play come on only reason ur a super unicum is because you just sealclub Welcome to WoWs forum

We got developer feedback guys. They like our always optimistic ST.

I don't really care about removal of stealth fire, it wasn't needed but I can live with it. But it has implications which a lot of people seemingly aren't seeing, and I will laugh my behind off if after a weak of the patch I see people complain about the side effects which are now seemingly so happy about it

This attempt to make it more worthwhile to push into points is still not enough. Normally if you won the local engagement you would fade back into concealment. Now you stay detected with your DD's for 20s after you killed an enemy DD since you will have enemies in your max gun range almost always. I thought WG never wanted ships to be 'better' in stock configurations, yet everyone I know who is a good player is talking about sticking with stock FCS and forgoing on AFT on all their DD's. Is this really a desired effect of this sledgehammer change to concealment system? And is it really needed to BUFF battleship concealment penalty?

Long range HE spamming platform. Can't tank dmg at all, so don't even try.

So you finally removed the 30 player limit?

So I don't constantly meet those game breaking top players in CV's? Wew who would have thought