mtm78

Pathetic troll Seems to be working right, 41%+ is 'healthy' right

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/77925-why-another-cruiser-line/page__pid__1758861#entry1758861 BB's reached critical mass. They are not to strong at all. If they go nerf them, I would eat BB's for breakfast in nearly all my cruisers and that's not how the balance should be.

I gave you that 'out' and you ignored it. Sorry, you've just been trolling in this thread. Infact, your sentence perhaps doesn't directly claim you want more BB lines, it heavilly implies it by stating the number of lines isn't the issue, and your 'worthwhile additions' to the thread otherwise have just been failed attempts to shift the discussion from gameplay to 'playing the man instead of the ball' which makes you incredibly pathetic.

Please, your whole presence in this thread has been fixated into arguing with those who tell you more BB lines at the moment wouldn't really help the gameplay even if you didn't directly say: "I want more BB lines", it was what all your posts imply ow wait... Sad troll who argues against BB which are overpopulated don't need bigger presence in the game.

Yeah you should really advice those 'other things which can get him some of his investment back' on the official forums

Another one with no substance? Wew, must be contagious, the guy liking his post is the same who cried for more BB's and then avoided to answer how it's working out for him 'telling people to play all classes'. And because I write a lot, you shouldn't read what I write? How terribly pathetic. You sounds like you just don't like the message and therefore are trying to discredit the messenger

And how is that working out for you?

I explicitly held off on grinding BOTH German BB's AND USN BB's because I don't want to add to the overpopulation, even while I have captains ready for them and knowing how well I would do in them. In short no... How about you tell us again how you think even higher BB population would be good for the game?

Stop dodging the question. Pot, meet kettle. You're the one who can't see how this would demolish the last chance this game has in returning to a healthy class balance on this server.

I been playing the tier IX on PTS, it's quite good at burning BBabies. RN BB's would cause 60% BBaby population due to their iconic status, and long time anticipation, and you want people to be ok with that? Unless WG limits BB's per team like they done with CV's I'd be happy if no more BB lines will be added at all.... and I actually like Rodnol and Nelsol to be in the game.. but I know it would kill of any chance this game has in getting back to a workable class balance ( unless, again, WG limits BB's per team like they done with CV's ). You're also contradicting yourself... So it only works when the new line is BB's? You might be right.. but that doesn't solve the problem.

What is this BS I read about killing smoke solving camping? Ok, let's remove smoke from the game, no problem. But also remove BB armor and hitpoints, make them cruisers with bigger guns. Seems fair no? Ow wait... Some ships depend on smoke, and smoke is not the issue as smoke has ENOUGH counters. Hydro, radar, torpedoes. It just requires teamwork and not yolo rambo BBabies thinking they should be able to solo down a flank on their own.

Yeah imagine the HORROR if they release a new cruiser line and people actually play less BB's

Been playing Shima on PTS with the Type93's and I'm actually enjoying her quite a bit. MM / meta on PTS is different though, but the torps seem much more reliable. The ~1 second buff seems to let me score at least a few hits much more reliable. Though sample size is low, and my victims might just be potato's

Those are indeed more the cruisers which I would like getting survivability increased on. Moskva is already troll, Zao is quite troll, but Ibuki is ... well it's just crap. And well there aren't any other cruisers in the game where angling actually seems to really work. Problem for Admiral_H_Nelson is that he plays low and mid tiers, and most cruisers there are CL's ( and have corresponding armor layout and thickness ). Though for instance Aoba would be a good example. Furutaka on the other hand seems to be quite 'tanky' when properly angled... been a while since I played her though so not 100% sure.

You can't angle CL's.. They are glass, and well it's ok as long as they have high dpm and good concealment. It's mostly CA's I think which should have higher survivability when not caught broadside. A CL should mainly evasion tank and not be able to mitigate BB damage through deflection due to angling. Also, in your example, nothing could be done really. You shouldn't be able to mitigate multiple BB's from multiple angles

English section is also used by most other language speaking players though, so I wouldn't correlate English subforum usage to RN BB exclusive's It's not about 'too popular' but about 'to disruptive for gameplay'. Been playing only PTS for the past 2 weeks, and darn you know what it's actually fun. Want to know why? Well most BB's in a match I seen is 4... FOUR... MAX... It's mostly cruisers, few DD's and few BB's, as the game was intended to be ( well, it's not to bad to have some heavy BB games, but they should be the exception not the rule ).

It does. Most likely next BB line will be UK... guess what will happen on EU server when all those Brits can get their RN BB's to play with?

Some it was, but people actually tried to work together in that 'crap' mechanics environment. Compared with now, gameplay was a bliss. People were friendly most of the time, and chat was actually mainly used to communicate with each other and not to insult people ( mostly I guess because people didn't have a 'need' to because everyone was 'new' to the game ). Cruisers couldn't really yolorush everything, withstanding one patch which basically made all BB shells ricochet making killing a BB a case of rushing between them and torping on both sides to get a dual strike ), since straight bow on you would get penned. Angling though.. well angled cruisers were almost as tough as angled BB's. The thing BB's had then was their scary alpha though, which they still have. DD's, well IJN was the scout, the hidden ninja torpedo boat, and the USN DD's where there to hunt them down. Just as we have other gunboat and torpedo lines right now, the only thing which changes is some DD's have hydro now, just as some BB's. We even have a DD and a BB with radar, which was added to cruisers. Basically, in my opinion, CBT gameplay was actually better, since it forced more teamwork and ships had much more defined roles ( and most people were actually willing to play them in their role ). Off course, some aspects / mechanics were pretty broken. 20km Shima torps with good enough concealment, or CV's ( overall, and allowed in division, and no cap on CV's per match ). But I still had way more FUN in CBT then I've had in the past few months.

Now we will get TinderBoss coming in telling us flamu is doing it wrong, since you should not spec your DD's to hunt other DD's because the wiki says so

I bet he's off playing his ARP Kongo again

I have to agree, healthy class balance is MUCH more important then BBaby happiness.

Your replay is bugged. does not play. edit: patch 0.6.3 ,,,