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Meh there should be one guy at least at the balance deparment who knows for sure. Though the question is, is he sober when at work? Jokes aside ( that was one, I don't think WG employees all do their job drunk btw ), even if they know, it's hard to predict how ships are played on live. Playerbase is always surprising them, they said so themselves right ;)

You see I knew those numbers, but it was our glorious fallenkezef who claim Bismarck was played so much because it's iconic and GE is part of EU so GE players play Bismarck. This argument is flawed as we both fully know. Thanks for showing the numbers though. Thanks to continue to show my point.

If it makes it to live: WG off course

We'll see, so far you been using your 'personal attack' card every time someone is using actual facts against you. Go on and show me how much more often NCal is played on NA as opposed to Bismarck. Go on, show me

You do realize that you're admitting to a bannable offense right?

Wait, aren't you supposed to be calling foul and 'personal attack' again?

Yeah that is why on NA it's the NCal being immensely popular... ow wait, those nasty facts are appearing again.

So, please repeat: there is a class balance when there are 50%+ BB's, and people who say this balance is actually good are talking from their personal preferences and not from the game's point of view as explained by the developers. Since if you just say this I can quote you on this every time you go 'add your wisdom' to every thread critical about the game balance atm.

WG reinvented the MMO game design, you add four classes, restrict ONE of them in MM because they are to strong in bigger numbers ( mhm ok not that bad ) then they see one class being played so much more than all the others and it's still fine as that is why 4 classes were designed. It's simple tovarish, BB attracts casuals, casuals according to market research spend in total more money, so we cather to the casuals. Ofc I'm exaggerating, that is what is done in these discussions. It doesn't mean the actual point is wrong, the facts actually support it. And as I said a couple of times already: facts are more important than your opinion ( or any else's but why mention that ). Lack of actual arguments is showing in each reply you make. Lmao. Developers saying something, must be wrong right!

Yeah, it's not like players who been playing this game for YEARS already could have actually any experience in it's gameplay and how it's been evolving right, that's ludicrous. "There is nothing wrong with the game tovarish, 50% BB population on tier 8 is good design we will increase it to 80% when glorious VMF BB's with spood beest, super heal and overpen ability on anything including angled Yamato's BB's are released." Yup nothing wrong, players who been around for while can't disagree this direction game is moving in is actually making it better, noo how dare they actually be critical of the game they been playing for so long! Trying to appear the victim just because you have no arguments is not helping you in any way.

He is trying to appear the victim. there is no point using facts or actual arguments. Class balance is fine, no need to whine about it right.

The foundation is pretty obvious, and I can't see a personal attack. But crying 'personal attack' always works right, like crying wolf when you're bored.

Never forget guys, they love spoiling us

You're just salty because the 'forum regulars' didn't agree with your notions about game. You're the exact reason as to why we use statistics in actual discussions, you have had some posts where what you said was absolutely laughable but understandable if one imagined the viewpoint you must have had.

1. Server facts >>>> personal experience. There is a reason WG doesn't use the latter in actual balancing ( own words, not mine ). 3. Stats motivate a very tiny amount of people. That doesn't alter their indicative value in balance discussions, not even in the slightest.

Tier 8 CA's could use a heal to start with. Not that it's a new suggestion though. The argument isn't about the influx of players when new content is released, but the decline shortly after ( if I understand correctly ). And the increase in games played is for a large part because of returning players who want to see the new content, see it, and go back to not playing soon after ( or this is claimed, only WG has the actual info needed to make these statements with certainty though and heck if they would actually release those if population numbers don't look positive ).

Guys it IS a PTS patch note, let's pray this is one major screwup which actually doesn't make it to live client! I mean, it's not like WG has a bad track record in this regard right?

BBaby already has that covered in their development roadmap / bingo card. HE to powerful wasn't talking about 127-130mm HE spam mainly ). Ow, and the fire part was also already covered. See, even when actual fire damage done to BB's was negligible compared with AP damage taken ( official WG numbers, thank god for being able to talk about facts instead of 'experiences' right ), WG still nerved HE fire chance ( IJN cruiser nerf long time ago ). That is how persistent this BB mafia has been already, so excuse the few who are still around hoping WG eventually puts their money where there mouth is and take aggressive action against BB meta/mafia.

Well if WG REALLY does not think 50% BBaby population is an issue, I would have left already. But they TOLD US they do find it a problem and they want it to return to the aforementioned class distribution. And they did buff some IJN torps. And they DID give Kagero the 12km torps. And stealth fire removal did NOT kill Senjou, or Blys. The only ship which lost attraction to me in reality is Akizuki due to horrible handling it isn't a fun ship to play if it's always spotted and needs to dodge shells constantly. So actually when WG ensures me the current meta is NOT what they want, I hang around to see how they will fix it.

That is WG's intended MM, 3-4 BB's 2-3 DD's 1-2 CV's rest cruisers, and it is the most fun ( talking about early gameplay before this BB heavy meta came about ). Being able to play aggressive with cruisers without needing to use islands all the time to hide yourself from most or part of the enemy was so much more fun.

This is why we use facts ( like, you know, server statistics ) over personal 'experience'. In my experience Shimakaze is not only lacking, but absolutely dreadful. Yet, I KNOW other players actually do far better then me, and it's not because they cheat. So maybe the average stats which in this rare case are HIGHER than my own average stats on the ship, are they way they because I fail personally. Accepting this is only possible because I know the facts. I just love having facts to judge arguments on.

It's not playerbase fault either, they use the tools given to them. While playerbase can surprise developers, it shouldn't take over a year to correct an imbalance ( 50%+ BB population at tier 8... c'mon guys ).

Quotation, not quatation ( iirc ). Also, good job, your topic has reached post #72

Severe lack of window licking fixed! Moving on to the next emergency....

The Arch whine topics where about OP torpedoes, unfair HAXOR stealth shooting and those topics. The only reason you see less of it is because WG actually listened to the BB mafia, hence current tier 8 meta. And now they are increasing secondary range on German BB's lel. I did, I bought Harekaze, the cheapest one. Normally by now, during summer sale, I would have spend a multitude of what I have now ( and that's an understatement ).