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You should actually put in some effort to reach my level you wouldn't need to complain about divisions being unfair. But please, keep on telling us how in LAST season in ranked they found the fair solution and how you couldn't play in divisions, I'm really interested to hear more about it. And how the star progression works, wow man I must have slept through all the supertesting I did for that mode The problem is bad players blaming MM. Thanks for proving my point, AGAIN.

Man I'm not 100% sure either just repeating what he said on stream. I do know regions are allowed to set their own release date's but I would assume this is indeed only after an initial green light from head office. From what I seen from performance through server stats being posted, GZ was not performing really well at all. Ishiro32's thread about not finished interface also seems to apply to what I heard in the stream as Notser did mention that part of the new changes which needed testing would be a better interface for the delay.

I was listening to the stream and what he said made sense. There had just been an announcement for changes which needed another round of playtesting, the changes were NOT supposed to go to live straight away. But every region is free to set own release dates afaik so I guess WG EU though Gamescom is to German to not release something German or something like that

No it just means you think the problem is MM when I think the problem is bad players thinking the problem is MM. But hey I been arguing with someone with a hidden profile, maybe it's my own fault Tell me again about how in last season you couldn't make divisions in ranked.... it's very 'interesting information' really

Yeah you clearly need to explain how ranked worked to me

@VC381 You're making excellent points, especially on the personal playstyle aspect. Some people do like twitch shooters. I was not bad at UT99 GOTY, actually did won quite some rounds with my friends at the time. But it's not why I was ( am?? ) enthusiastic for WoWs, I mean there are other coming titles which would fit my desire for that playstyle. I think this is an excellent example as I strongly believe that actual server averages support my notion that it is tier 8 to 6 maybe 5 where cruisers have way to low survival rates compared with equal tiered battleships. This is not something which can be excused by saying battleships are more tanky, they are. But this trait is supposed to be used during the game, not to preserve hp for the 'next map' I am sorry, off course dodging has a skill element. I'm not bad at dodging either I like to think at least, but imho dodging involves keeping to much distance as what the game 'needs' in order for cruisers to be as versatile in high tier as in low tier. In that sense you might be right, and high tier cruisers could use an agility buff. But my Hindenburg is massive, it would be really strange for it to move as a RN CL, because than RN CL would need to move even faster, and destroyers would also need agility buff to keep up relative differences which are also important aspects of class balance. I'd rather we agreed eventually, as it's easier to appease 'the playerbase' if they share a common consensus about the meta / playstyle I'm not saying you're wrong and I am right, I'm saying that you're imho an outlier who has personal opinions based on successful playstyle which sadly doesn't apply to average player. Now I been accused by Sub_Octavian to be biased and unable to see game from average players eyes ( omg this is the first game I guess in which a developer actually said I was any good at it .. and I'm actually not even that good and even bad in some ships ), and it's even possible for Martians to be biased. So probably no one is really wrong here. When thinking about direction of the game, for me it's important that skill floor on mid tier battleships is raised. If that's by nerving them, or by increasing effectiveness of counters, is not really important. I am not a good battleship player at all, but the ease in which it's possible to get decent results in mid tier battleships compared with other classes is what strikes me as disgusting and the cause of the battleship population issues. edit: ow and I'm arguably ( and humbly ) not a bad cruiser captain myself, so it's not like I don't get good results with them as well. It's not about the end results, since those also involve a lot of effort to reach in the other classes ( cruisers / destroyers to a degree esp those you can classify as light cruisers ). It is about how easy it is to get to those results, it's effort which should be rewarded and currently in battleships the returns far outweigh the effort required in other classes.

Yeah the problem is someone who is terrible at the game spamming battle button and eventually getting lucky by getting a string of excellent teams which despite have one less ship as the enemy still winning all those games. In ranked there are no divisions man, so why even try to turn this in your favour? You have nothing to gain. And this 'problem' with baddies getting to ranks they don't 'deserve' is because the mode was advertised as 'skill based' or semi competitive. That claim is so wrong, but baddies who get to certain ranks still like to think they actually deserve some compliment for the rank. That is the problem. MM being not skill based but ignoring any player statistics isn't a flawed design, law of large numbers should help a lot already with getting fair distribution. In fact, it would be more strange if people who spam the battle button that often NOT reaching ranks they shouldn't based on individual skill. Strains work in both ways, good and bad.

What a surprise that YOU post this Find me AND QUOTE ME this 'cruiser lobby' which is complaining about tier X? I dare you to. Tier X is where cruisers are actually balanced quite good. Well ofc until Megazao appears Can I haz ur babies?

Off course cruisers can influence a game. It's takes just more effort than easy mode baby boat. If I want to win a tier 6 game I take Arizona not Cleveland or Budyonny or Shinonome or even Molotov ( though I seem to win a lot in that to don't ask me why as I don't think it's that much capable of carrying ) . But if I want to solo play on tier X, I would NOT take my Yamato out of port, I rather take any cruiser I have ( Zao / Hindenburg and Moskva ). See above, yeah my Hindenburg actually is perfect in terms of armor + survivability. Lower tier cruisers are not, do you agree with that? I used to seal club in Umikaze, imho it was more broken as Imperator is ( or KA or actually anything in the game right now ). Mostly because people would straight line even AFTER taking the first volley, but it was also the best torpedo boat in the game. Fast reloading torps with excellent range and speed, and excellent concealment. But it still felt like more work to get good results as playing a non top tier battleship. Aha, problem identified. You're happy playing RNG and rely on more often evading than getting hit in a RNG determined mini game, as opposed to the skill based concealment build which let's you disengage and turn out based on skill / positioning? I don't want twitch based shooter on water, this is supposed to be a tactical game. Also, as I mentioned above, Hindenburg is fine imho... and it's not really agile. Want to make Moskva more agile? Why? There is ONE optimal angle in which the ship is considered really tanky, if you 'turn' in Moskva it just means showing citadel and going back to port. I don't have Des Moines but I know it's squishy and needs to come close, maybe that one could use agility to better survive those situations? The only time agility is really a part of the game is when the teams are thinned out and you don't have to worry about 5 battleships locking you the moment you're spotted.

Lmao pretty pathetic argument: cruisers do have role, they need to support DD's so be closest big ship to enemy BB then go back to port because BB AP overmatches most of your cruiser and thus your angling aka skill has no effect to counter amoeba left clicking his mouse. Cruisers btw can't support DD's you just said they need to provide AAA support to the babies on the blue line. Hard to be at two places a the same time. uhhh BB fine uhhh uhhh I only play tier X uhhh uhhhh uhhhh BB fine on tier X uhhhh uhhhhh

Unintentional irony

It only doesn't impact destroyer hulls, and guess who is supposed to be between DD's and BabyBoats?

You mean the anti cruiser torpedoes? Yeah 'excellent' idea from WG.

Exactly, and yeah yeah ofc it's alll perfectly legal since CC's have this big WIP notice. But doing this multiple times makes it harder and harder to not feel they are INTENTIONALLY pushing breaking changes like those to the last possible moment and NOT give CC's time to review or interact with their followers about the new changes.

Perth also seems fine, it's pretty Gimmicky. Missouri I wouldn't pull I would just remove the radar ( and if people cry about it I would put my boot up their arse and tell them to stop thinking cruiser consumables belong on baby boats ). MK could use some range nerf ( how about making it equal with Mogami 155 WARGAMING, I mean, you still have forgotten to 'repair' Mogami 155 ( ok you gave small amount off wd40 to lubricate turret traverse ). edit: Get Arizona for those clubbing cruiser needs.

CC's didn't even have time to review the changes. You might have known about it, but why is that relevant?

I seen something about KGV, it said it main targets are cruisers and destroyers, and that it shouldn't go into close combat with other battleships. I threw up inside, realizing WG actually thinks that's a good 'addition', or even worse, that their PR department should encourage the shitter babies to snipe and be useless in battleships.

I have one and I feel it's freaking stupid to be have been put in the game as is, absolute disgrace to free2play players who just get shat on.

No, but you are entiteled to an opinion!

*edited* Saipan has higher wr as KA, Belfast is a bigger outlier as KA. *edited*

They have to be, they are actually MASTER at balance I hear

Wait, you don't like it when Megazao suddenly devastates your Hindenburg from stealth? Why not, what is more fun then going to port in the timespan of seconds after realizing you didn't make a mistake but got royally screwed by the imaginary WG balance department ( I think it's a bunch of mountain goats on Cyprus, can't be people ).

Hahahaa hhhahaha hhaha hhahahaaa hhahhhaahh hahhahahaha hahahaha Ships which actually have a higher win ratio are 'balanced' right... hhahahaa hahaaha hhahhahah ]hhhahhah hhaa oww man my sides ohhaah hahhahah hahhhahaha Removing KA fits with how I think this game will end up.

IFHE -8% fire chance, but how much more armor did it give me I can't find it in the patch notes? Ow wait you didn't actually thought people would take that serious did you? How about we lower limit of babies per game from five to three, then go play for a month or so and THEN see how relative performance is.

No, regions can manage releases locally based on different priorities. Or well, that is what Notser just talked about on his stream. I also remember being told this before ;)