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MasterTanker90, on 25 October 2012 - 10:17 AM, said: Thanks! You're welcome.

MasterTanker90, on 25 October 2012 - 10:15 AM, said: Thanks! You're welcome.

NelsonXes, on 25 October 2012 - 06:27 AM, said: Nice post, made me look up her sister ship HMS Warspite probably the most famous ship of this class, this class of ship ended being a rather hardy, and versatile ships considering their age. Thanks man

CommissionerJan, on 23 October 2012 - 12:11 PM, said: I'm afraid you're in for a bit of a disappointment then: The drawing is fantasy, it's not a Montana. The hull is different. If you want an approximate line drawing of the design, I'd suggest looking at this page: http://www.history.n...htp/bb/bb67.htm I saw that site, and I found another picture than the one above. In this site I found another design of Montana with Missouri. http://media.photobu...mparisontop.png

CommissionerJan, on 23 October 2012 - 09:46 AM, said: The top-down drawing is pure fantasy. . .just look at the number of 5" DP mounts. .The Montana design has 10, but on the fantasy drawing there are 16. Of course it's a fantasy, but it is the best if not the strongest blueprint for tier 10 battleship for U.S. Navy.

Falathi, on 22 October 2012 - 06:28 PM, said: You are right. I`m afraid IJN suffered quite heavy losses in general. When you notice how many ships survived until the end of the war - the number is not really that impressive. To make things worse, during the battle of Philippines or shortly thereafter, many IJN ships were lost with huge loss of life, for various reasons. During the series of battles around Philippines: IJN Fuso - sunk with nearly all or all hands. There are contradictory claims that either there were none survivors other than those picked up by vessels that have been sunk with nearly all hands soon thereafter or there were just few who swam to the shores and were not killed by the partisants. IJN Yamashiro - only ten people were picked up from water by Americans, with not many more left to their fate. IJN Yamagumo - she was sunk in the same battle. There were no survivors. IJN Nowaki - sunk not much later after attempting to rescue survivors from Chokai. In result there were no survivors from both ships. IJN Chiyoda - sunk with all hands. IJN Chikuma - sunk with all hands but one. IJN Fujinami - sunk with all hands, including some survivors of Chokai, which was in result also sunk with all hands. IJN Tama - again, no survivors. I`m not sure about some of the other ships, like IJN Akizuki but it seems that the battles were quite fierce and the loss of life is tremendous, especially as only in the case of Fuso we can speak of violent end with explosion of the ammunition magazines. It`s not like the case of HMS Hood, or many ships during the battle of Jutland. I do not know what to tell you of all that you have written, it's really sad for all those people who have died defending their country not only Japan but also the U.S., Germany, Britain, Russia, Italy....and all others who have participated in World War II.

Falathi, on 22 October 2012 - 05:52 PM, said: Thank you for this topic! The Takao class is one of my favourites. Beautiful and capable ships, although not flawless. It`s interesting to notice how all the class was doomed in the same battle of Philippines, with two ships sunk by the subs and the Chokai sunk two days later in the battle of Samar. The only survivor was hit by two torpedoes and managed to haul back to base, without achieving anything but also escaping destruction. BTW - Chokai was lucky ship until then, but in that battle she went down with all hands. You're welcome, but it is a sad story for all four ships.

manthanboeing, on 21 October 2012 - 07:12 PM, said: absolutely, we won't even need air cover from incoming bombers We will destroy the planes before they reach the range to attack us with torpedoes or bombs. :Smile_playing:

HMS King George V was built by Vickers-Armstrong at Walker Naval Yard, Newcastle upon Tyne; she was laid down on 1 January 1937, launched on 21 February 1939 and commissioned on 11 December 1940. HMS King George V (pennant number 41) was the lead ship of the five British King George V-class battleships of the Royal Navy. Laid down in 1937 and commissioned in 1940, King George V operated during the Second World War as part of the British Home and Pacific Fleets. Along with HMS Rodney, King George V severely damaged the German battleship Bismarck which led to the German vessel sinking in May 1941. On 1 May 1942 HMS Punjabi sank after a collision with King George V. King George V took part in Operation Husky (the allied landings in Sicily) and bombarded the island of Levanzo and the port of Trapani. She also escorted part of the surrendered Italian Fleet, which included the battleships Andrea Doria and Caio Duilio, to Malta. In 1945 King George V took part in operations against the Japanese in the Pacific. Displacement: normal load 38.031 tons, 42.237 tons at full load.After her refit in 1944, she displaced 44,460 tons at full load. Length: 745 ft (227 m) Beam: 103 ft (31 m) Draught: 32.6 ft (9.9 m) Propulsion: 8 Admiralty three-drum small-tube boilers with superheaters 4 Parsons single-reduction geared turbines 4 three-bladed propellers , 14 ft 6 in diameter (4.42 m) 125,000 shp Speed: 28.0 knots Range: 5,400+ nm at 18 knots Armament: 10 × BL 14-inch (360 mm) Mk VII guns 16 × QF 5.25-inch (133 mm) Mk I guns 64 × 2 pounder "pom-pom" (40 mm) Armour: Main belt: 14.7 in (374 mm) lower belt: 5.4 in (137 mm) deck: up to 5.38 in (136 mm) main turrets: 12.75 in (324 mm) barbettes: 12.75 in (324 mm) Aircraft carried: 4 Supermarine Walrus seaplanes Fate: Sold for scrap :Smile_sad:

ds1997, on 21 October 2012 - 06:17 PM, said: this was a good ship Yes, very good ship.

Nesher, on 21 October 2012 - 09:20 AM, said: Yeah, it wouldn't be the first time a defence project (especially one running as long as the construction of a battleship) got changed back and forth a number of times before it got into service (not to mention retirement). OTOH, on the "blue" top-down picture, there are 100+ 20 and 40 mm guns, so it might very well be that the specs cited on wikipedia is from a earlier stage of the planning. If they insert this battleship with such weapons as shown in images, then it will be better than Yamato mark my words.

Good topic.

Maybe they add them later in the near future, but in the beginning it will not be a submarines.

I hope you enjoy. :Smile_glasses:

USS Langley (CV-1/AV-3) was laid down on 18 October 1911, as USS Jupiter, Launched: 14 August 1912 and commissioned on 7 April 1913. It was renamed Langley on 11 April 1920. USS Langley (CV-1/AV-3) the United States Navy's first aircraft carrier, converted in 1920 from the collier USS Jupiter(AC-3), and also the U.S. Navy's first electrically propelled ship. Conversion of another collier was planned but canceled when the Washington Naval Treaty required the cancellation of the partially built battlecruisers Lexington and Saratoga, freeing up their hulls for conversion to the aircraft carriers CV-2 and CV-3. Langley was named after Samuel Pierpont Langley, an American aviation pioneer. Following another conversion, to a seaplane tender, Langley fought in World War II. Displacement: 19,360 long tons (19,670 t) (as Jupiter) 12,700 long tons (12,900 t) (standard, as Langley) 13,900 long tons (14,100 t) (full load, as Langley) Length: 542 ft (165 m) Beam: 65 ft 5 in (19.94 m) Draft: 27 ft 8 in (8.43 m) (as Jupiter) 24 ft (7.3 m) (as Langley) Installed power: 7,200 shp (5,400 kW) Propulsion: General Electric turbo-electric drive 3 × boilers 2 × shafts Speed: 15.5 kn (17.8 mph; 28.7 km/h) Range: 3,500 nmi (4,000 mi; 6,500 km) at 10 kn (12 mph; 19 km/h) Complement: 163 officers and men (as Jupiter) 468 officers and men (as Langley) Armament: 4 × 5 in (130 mm)/51 cal guns (as Langley) Aircraft carried: None (as Jupiter) 36 (as Langley) Fate: Damaged by Aichi D3A1 "Val" dive bombers, scuttled, 27 February 1942.

Prinz Eugen was an Admiral Hipper-class heavy cruiser, the third member of the class of five vessels. She served with the German Kriegsmarine during World War II. The ship was laid down in April 1936 and launched August 1938; Prinz Eugen entered service after the outbreak of war, in August 1940. The ship was named after Prince Eugene of Savoy, an 18th century Austrian general. Prinz Eugen saw extensive action during Operation Rheinübung, an attempted breakout into the Atlantic Ocean with the battleship Bismarck in May 1941. The two ships engaged the British battlecruiser Hood and battleship Prince of Wales in the Battle of Denmark Strait, during which Hood was destroyed and Prince of Wales was severely damaged. Prinz Eugen was detached from Bismarck during the operation to raid Allied merchant shipping, but this was cut short due to engine troubles. After putting in to occupied France and undergoing repairs, the ship participated in Operation Cerberus, a daring daylight dash through the English Channel back to Germany. In February 1942, Prinz Eugen was deployed to Norway, although her time stationed there was cut short when she was torpedoed by the British submarine Trident days after arriving in Norwegian waters. The torpedo severely damaged the ship's stern, which necessitated repairs in Germany. Upon returning to active service, the ship spent several months training new officer cadets in the Baltic before serving as artillery support to the retreating German Army on the Eastern Front. After the German collapse in May 1945, the ship was surrendered to the British Royal Navy before being transferred to the US Navy as a war prize. Displacement: Design: 16,970 t (16,700 long tons; 18,710 short tons) Full load: 18,750 long tons (19,050 t) Length: 207.7 m (681 ft 5 in) overall Beam: 21.7 m (71 ft 2 in) Draft: 7.2 m (24 ft) Propulsion: 3 × Blohm & Voss steam turbines 3 × three-blade propellers 100,000 hp (75 MW) Speed: 32 knots (59 km/h; 37 mph) Complement: 42 officers 1,340 enlisted Armament: 8 × 20.3 cm (8.0 in) guns 12 × 10.5 cm (4.1 in) guns 12 × 3.7 cm (1.5 in) guns 8 × 2 cm (0.79 in) guns (20×1) 12 × 53.3 cm (21 in) torpedo tubes Armor: Belt: 70 to 80 mm (2.8 to 3.1 in) Armor deck: 20 to 50 mm (0.79 to 2.0 in) Turret faces: 105 mm (4.1 in) Aircraft carried: 3 aircraft http://www.asisbiz.c...nz-Eugen-18.jpg http://img247.images...paint03amr0.jpg http://www.asisbiz.c...nz-Eugen-14.jpg Fate: After examining the ship in the United States, the US Navy assigned the cruiser to the Operation Crossroads nuclear tests in the Bikini Atoll. After surviving both atomic blasts,Prinz Eugenwas towed to Kwajalein Atoll where she ultimately capsized and sank in December 1946.

MasterTanker90, on 19 October 2012 - 12:58 PM, said: Thanks, and USS< isnt that a typo? I'm sorry, I do not know much of English, wath it means the word you wrote: typo?

MasterTanker90, on 19 October 2012 - 12:57 PM, said: Oho.. 16 inch gun.. i wonder what if it was in wot? :Smile_trollface: Then it would be a disaster. :Smile_playing:

16 Inch Gun Training Film

MasterTanker90, on 19 October 2012 - 12:57 PM, said: Thank you! make make something about USSR ships/carriers too pls.. I'll make if I find something.

USS Atlanta (CL-51) was laid down 22 April 1940, launched on 6 September 1941 and finally commissioned: 24 December 1941. USS Atlanta (CL-51) of the United States Navy was the lead ship of the Atlanta class of 11 light cruisers. She was the third Navy ship named after the city of Atlanta, Georgia. Designed to provide anti-aircraft protection for US naval task groups, Atlanta served in this capacity in the naval Battles of Midway and the Eastern Solomons. Atlanta, in some works, is designated CLAA-51 because of her primary armament as an Anti-Aircraft cruiser. Hence, all of the Atlanta-class ships are sometimes designated as CLAA. However, her entire battery of 5 in (127 mm) guns were dual-purpose (DP) guns, and were capable of being used against both air and surface targets, able to fire proximity-fused, high-explosive and armor-piercing shells. Also, the Atlanta class was the only class of World War II American cruisers to be armed with a battery of torpedoes. Displacement: 6,000 tons standard 7,400 tons full load Length: 541 ft 0 in (164.90 m) Beam: 52 ft 10 in (16.10 m) Draft: 20 ft 6 in (6.25 m) Propulsion: 4 × 665 psi boilers 2 geared steam turbines 75,000 hp (56 MW) Speed: 32.5 knots (60 km/h)(design), 33.6 knots (62 km/h) (trials) Range: 8,500 nautical miles (15,700 km) at 15 knots (28 km/h) Complement: Officer: 35 Enlisted: 638 Armament: 16 × 1.1 in (27 mm)/75 cal guns 6 × 20 mm/70 cal anti-aircraft cannons 8 × 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes Armor: Belt: 1.1-3.5 in (27-88.9 mm) Deck: 1.25 in (31.75 mm) Turrets: 1.25 in (31.75 mm) Fate: Atlanta was mistakenly sunk by an American vessel in a night surface action on 13 November 1942 during the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal.

MasterTanker90, on 19 October 2012 - 12:59 PM, said: Nice one.. make about polish too pls. I was not a fan of Polish ships and a lot of them I do not know, but I'll try to put a post on a Polish ship.

MasterTanker90, on 19 October 2012 - 01:00 PM, said: Ok thank you... will make poland tree next time.. I'm sorry, but I did not make this US Tech Tree, this has been made by SgtSurfinByrd from NA forum I think.

We can talk about it all night, but no one knows what Montana could have on it if they built it, I searched a bit on the net and I found a picture of USS Montana BB-67 with all weapons. I hope you like it. :Smile_glasses:

I think it would be good to have HMS Nelson with torpedo tubes in the game.