CountOfTuscany

why should I not keep it?

I was just looking at the captains perk tree for my Gremy. I still have to play the ship a lot more to get up to tier 5 perks, but I was already thinking about it. I guess Concealment expert is a useful perk on Gremy, but isn't Gremy better off with Basic firing training (increase RoF) and demolition expert (increase fire chance), because that enhances the strengths of the Gremy more?

I wonder how much time it will take me... I think I'll give it a shot in Gremy and Kuma...

You too!

I meant derpitz. It probably ahs to do because there is a ton of people moaning about it and new forum posts about it appearing almost daily :p Meanwhile at WoT Advent Calender topic (there is a bonus code which gives people 24* chocolate, but a lot of people can't make the code work):

Mornink all! The Type 59 of the sea is for sale again, bundled though. Now I don't like WGs bundling policy, but I see why they do it. What do people think? That it produces golden eggs? Or that it is the ultimate solution to deliver all adversaries to Davy Jones locker?

up vote party :p I will probably play some DDs tonight (Umikaze, Clemson, Gremmy). Need to work on my torp skills.

Well, if you've got any spare. btw, you can also have mine.

Isn't arc of the shell tied to the velocity of the shell? I do agree on your ideas of lower tier ships being able to harm other ships with AP shells. However, could it be that very high pen on low tier ships is also an annoyance due to overpenetration?

Well, I'm not going to use that then.

New camo on gremmy looks nice! Btw, how does that new years camo work? is it permanent? or do you have to pay the 30 gold each battle?

yeah, the link was broken indeed. I was trying to make the calculation mathematically sound by checking the units, I guess 'Krupp' has to have some kind of unit, and if not, than there might be other variables also involved? Thing I got with the current formula is that it results in some strange outcomes, like BB Mikasa having more penetration than the Yamato, Karlsruhe having more penetration than Zao. Kawachi having more penetration than it's tier 3, 4 and 5 adverseries and just below the penetration values of the tirpitz. Theses outcomes are often the result of strange values for Krupp. Maybe i'ts especially a mess on the lower tiers and it does hold true for the higher tiers. What I also wonder at what range the calculated penetration value applies. Close range (<3km)? 10km range? 20km range?? And in what way and to what extent might the penetration decrease over range (I guess velocity decreases over range, subsequently reducing penetration), this would also explain the shell drop at high distances)?

mornink baz! I'm only at tier 3-4-5 so I guess we can toon up some times. 1. is rather true I guess. Note that it more important to stay alive than to fire additional guns. You can turn broadsides at times, but only if you dodged incoming fire and won't be fired at when you show your broadside. This works well with ships with a longer reload, notably battleships. 2. Stopped freedom kruzers at St.louis atm. Understood Omaha was great. Cleveland used to be great now it's more like shooting people with mortars. Pensacola is not really loved and I think that the IJN kruzers are regarded as better kruzers (due to firing from stealth) than the USN ones from tier 7 on. Btw, I'm currently working my way up the IJN kruzers (at Kuma atm). Low tier BBs of both nations are weak. Still trying to ger my kawachi to myogi, but St.Balance just clubs everything in tier 3 including BBs (which is kind of hilarious since BBs are supposed to counter CA/CL). Low tier DDs are really strong. Don't know to much about higher tiers, except from vids. I can recommend picking a DD line. I think the IJN line is more easier to pick up and it also learns you how to use torps. Russian and USN DDs are gunboats, IJN DDs are torpboats. BBs: I guess it's useful to grind any line. Lower tier BBs are bad/meh anyways. From tier 5 on I don't think it will really matter, though on the forums the IJN BB tree seems to be a bit more favoured than the USN BB tree. But you can choose depending on playstyle. IJN BBs are usually quicker and thus have more strategical potential, USN BBs are slower but better armoured and are thus more suitable for pitched battles at med-close range. something like that. Hope this helped a bit. But I guees we should just do some platoons soon.

When did you start playing sheeps baz?

Are people really that stupid that they will run besides an island if they know a DD might be around on the other side? But, ok, I'll watch the vid and will give it a shot.

Thred ded?

Mornink all! Yeah, I don't really want to have to run all the way up to ships to torp them... quite dangerous. Yesterday I went banzai on an enemy St Louis who was at first coming my way, and after that he changed course and run away. I survived though, St.Louis got hammered by team mates + a fire of mine. So islands it is for torping I guess and preferably BBs as targets (or CVs). How about firing from long range (which is 9.2 km in my case , no AFT )? just fire away and evade? Does that work or does it get you killed too fast? Wow, nice pic.

Any of you DD players now some neat DD tektiks? Playing Clemson and Umikaze and I'm trying to find out some tactics. Umi is just the regular torp spam, but Clemson can't stealth snipe. So I try to use some offensive smokes and use my guns that way. Any other ideas?

I'm not willing to shoot that ammount of gold

why what? :p

Well... it's rather hard to leave when you've never joined them

Ah, the WoWs forum bar, nice! I'll be playing some battles tonight.

Could there be a relation to the "Alpha piercing HE" (HE shell) and the "detonator threshold" (AP shell)? The values seem to be the same accross the board for shells of the same caliber. The values also compare well to the values given in the wiki: http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Gunnery_%26_Armor_Penetration_(WoWS)#Armor-Piercing

I tried to do some calculations with the units. This is what I got so far (someone correct me if I'm wrong). So unit of Krupp seems to be something like (N^0.5)*(m^-1) Note that I didn't convert mm to m yet (cause the value used for D is in mm). So I guess that the unit for Krupp either needs multiplication or division by a 1000.

What unit does krupp have?