Karkong_the_Impaler

Exactly. But on average, it still does (disregarding the known fudging/cheating as negilible), because you get dealt teams around an average and the only continuous influence on the outcome is yourself.

Even a hundred monkeys on keyboards wouldn't make more sense... 100*1/infinity=0

It doesn't even matter if the matchmaker tried to match ship for ship and then makes do with what is available, as long as player skill as a metric isn't involved. And the limiter for not getting uptiered - well, then it's someone else getting uptiered. Again - as long as the player skill isn't involved, it doesn't matter. Yes, it might not be entirely free of manipulation, but even if they, say, add a special camo for their community managers that gives them dispersion bonus and a higher chance to citadel other players and immunity to devstrikes and what have you - that won't be noticeable in a statistical sense by the sheer amount of games going on every day. I mean, you just have to search for "wows hacks" on youtube, there positively are some people around who actively manipulate the game and thus their (and therefore also my) win rate. Abd still, I have quite improved over the last years, I can reliably play some ships at 60+% solo in a relevant number of battles. And I remember getting the 50% average win rate. And @Seraphice being my master? Man, I don't think he takes more flak from anyone else than me...

"obviously" as in "it its known"? Basically the WG patent someone dug up proves that there is some fudging going on, giving players new to a tier a bit better matchmaking. The amount of fudging doesn't explain the difference between a 40% player and a 60% player. If you're in for a sad and painful laugh, go ahead and watch that other dudes replays - he's complaining about "personalized RNG" and "manipulated matchmaking", too: And for a possibly brain haemorrhaging read on the topic: Read at your own risk. You have been warned. Basically it's level players in a make believe world where they are good and only their teams suck and/or conspiracy theories about how they get cheated out of their deserved victories - and they get angry when someone points out the flaws. Like for example how it does work to get better. The one thing they refrain from doing, btw.

I have rarely felt so little empathy for someones plight.

I can. You can't. Or rather, you shouldn't, because you make yourself a laughing stock when you do. See this graph. Take all the time you need and tell me where you consider yourself to be on that curve. On the other hand, I don't even care. It's not like you have the capacity to grasp it's significance. You are the apocryphal chess playing pigeon. Also, don't confuse this: Understanding the law of averages doesn't make one happy to get dealt the tuberous plants - but in this case no one was complaining in the first place, to the contrary, I was happy they found something to enjoy. You should try it, too... Edit: How about personal messages if you wish to talk to me personally?

I just don't let you state bovine excrement unopposed, that's all. This is also a you issue, apparently, just like your game experience. Go ahead, comment away. But be prepared to be laughed at if it's asinine. That's generally a good advice. Or do you want special snowflake protection, because you emotionally suffer when you get replies that don't align with the flimsy reality you've choosen to believe in? Well - if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

https://shiptool.st/filter?g=TPt&ty=ABCDS&n=ABFGHIJRSUVWZ&tn=1&tx=11&c=top&p=gen&os=gen&op=Torpedo_prot.&o=desc Never mind the real issues Yamato had with her torpedo protection. Supershits need a kick to the teeth, that's what they need.

I didn't realize for a long time, but coop players are... a strange bunch. If you manage to enjoy that... unimaginative and repetetive gameplay that is to be expected, I guess. But whatever floats their boat, I'm not judging and honestly, with some I'm happy they don't join my team in more competetive modes. Also, after all this time, I guess some of them found out they can't report bots. So who is left then? Disgusting, but understandable. Secondary Incomparable doesn't work in my experience - you give up too much for the main gun reload and the secondaries do exactly nothing, even when fully upgraded. For coop? Doesn't matter. You don't need upgrades and you don't need a captain to outplay the rest of your team.

Seriously another one blaming manipulated matchmaking instead of your own lack of competence, whining that your team doesn't reliably carry your lazy ? It's not the team. It's not the matchmaking. Instead of leaving you could instead join @Andrewbassg and @Aethervoxx with their self-help group "super-unicums of hearts". Minimum requisite is a pair of oversized shoes and the ability to fit in a very tiny car, but somehow I have no doubt you will manage. PS: Not defending supershits, CVs nor subs, don't get me wrong...

Damn, you got me good there. I was afraid for a second you actually posted really [edited] battles just to troll me and waste an hour of my life. But then: Military grade reality filter and hare brained excuses why you suck. Who would have guessed.... @Sunleader Forget it. He's entirely deluded. According to him, "personalized RNG" and "manipulated MM" is to blame for his bad performance. He really thinks he's a good player, just the audacity to post these replays with the air of superiority while being an abject failure... seriously, one can't imagine this. Word of warning, reading the entire thread from the start of the derailment can cause brain damage:

Ok. I'll bite anyway: Instead of supporting the DD you went for the I line while ineffectively max range sniping and then borderhumping and sniping some more. How do you expect to carry games this way? Burning down a BB takes ages, even if you consequently toast all BBs, the game is long over by then. Holy fffing ! Did you hurt your optic nerve when trying that lobotomy thing at home? It was supposed to be a joke man! You even shot at the enemy DD once, but then sailed away to ineffectually snipe some more, instead of hunting him down. That was just like a bot in coop - out of sight, out of mind. Why do you have RPF in the first place? So, the other flank folded when you didn't manage to push yours. Always in the back row sniping. Both enemy DDs on your flank were still alive when the match was lost. And guess who is responsible for removing DDs? Lobotomy moments: You were so focussed on the BB that you didn't even notice the 1500hp Yue sailing broadside on your screen. And the "well done" spam, as if you didn't fail just as hard as the rest. Sniping again (I notice a pattern) so far behind that you failed your radar to help kill the enemy DDs at the start. Then some more atrocious border humping and sniping. Man, it's your ffffing job to kill the enemy DDs. The Fletcher did what he could with but you tried very hard to keep the smalland out of radar range and he got murdered because you failed. Memorable lobotomy moments: Just when I thought, oh, he isn't smart, he didn't even notice the Smalland, you changed your aim to shoot at the Vermont. The minimap is your friend. Press the + key on the numpad to increase the size. And look when the computer tells you that an enemy DD has been spotted. The opener was the first smart move I've seen in five games. Or rather, it was a stupid move by the Shima. But seriously, how did he survive this? I notice your reticle jerks quite ofte when you shoot a salvo - do you by chance use your tongue and a touchscreen to aim? Then some more sniping from the back row untill Napoli. Lobotomy moments: Taking yourself out of the fight in the small cove for minutes. Not noticing that just seconds before your radar is ready again, the shima blocks the cap. It's not like you were doing anything useful at that time, apart from parking out of that cove (which was painful to watch). When you finally radared, the shima was long gone and the cap reset. Also, that... Shima went for the cap AGAIN while your radar was ready. Oblivious you ran away and still got him by chance when you went for the Napoli. He had 1500 hp left. But you were busy bouncing AP at an angled Napoli. I mean, you even [edited] about that Venezia - he at least noticed the DD. So, your greatest archievement was that you basically got carried by your team with the notable exception of actually managing to press the radar key once in a while. That was about your contribution to the battle. It's not WG, it's not the phase of the Moon, it's not rigged matchmaking and it certainly isn't your team. PS: Say, didn't you notice that the lion's share of your potential damage were shot at the Kremlin and torped at the Schlieffen - while you sat ineffectively in that cove?!

Opinions? https://www.wowsft.com/ship?index=PASB510&modules=1111&upgrades=512322&commander=PAW102&skills=9986305&ar=100&flags=1154&consumables=111&pos=0

Guess (or calculate) the average win rate.... I don't think he's qualified to even lead a clown parade. On so many levels and for so many reasons...

See, that's what we all are saying. But suddenly - submersible scum?! Now even with laser guided missiles! In addition to atrocious supershits with FUn button and of course CVs, but I disgress... Also, why didn't you reply to what basically amounts to lazy programming - That the torps are guided right into your rear when running away? Or the fact that "turning in" is usually not the preferable choice for a spotted DD under fire but now he gets forced to? That's about as much fun as pointing your bow towards AP rocket planes and getting deleted by the sheer volume of long range BBs in a CL... Man, you came with the excuse that DDs have so many things to do, so you wouldn't want to burden them with ASW duties - with the result that there is an entire lack of healthy respect. And the one class which needed a counter gets nuclear tipped laser guided and entirely automated ASW. And you wonder why we think DDs are getting ed?

Because I'm a scrooge and I'm not paying 70% surcharge for something with a logo on it that fell from a different production line in the same sweatshop? Also who cares about looks when you go jogging? Edit: And if you wear Adidas outside for anything fashion related...

@Seraphice Now that you came out of hilbernation, would you please forward this to the appropriate department? The bug is seriously annoying. And we could do with an ETA for the fix...

Is a secondary build worth it with Ohio?

Seriosly, what kind of miniscule attention span does your social sciences majoring taxi driving yoga teacher have, that you think you can get away with this when talking to normal people? This has gone on far too long - the only one who gets a lobotomy here is me, and that alone by reading what you write - I'm already bleeding from the nose.

Ok, I was about to post the "it's you" guy again, and the guy that shoots his own leg - but maybe... how about you get better at spotting without dying? Maybe not suicide rush into the cap, check the enemy lineup for radar or long range hydro first? Or only enter a cap if you know where the radar cruisers are? I think I told you before - you'll excuse my memory, I've said it to the various players who complain about their team when all they actually should do is to improve their own skills - It's not about capping first, it's about capping last and then keeping it!

The amount of bovine excrement one can choose to believe is limitless, as you have aptly shown. You can discount every flimsy belief that cannot be backed up. Anecdotal evidence isn't evidence. That is why we consider people idiots who tell us they've been abducted by aliens for a colonoscopy. Only - and really only - if you wish to be considered worthwhile anyone elses time. But don't fret, you already have a disciple, you can simply make a religion out of it and claim immunity from facts. I just hope you wear these funny shoes at your get together when exiting the very small car. And after all this, the only question that remains is - do you manage to type this with a straight face? And what you do influences the teams success. If you only afk, you get low win rates, because your team can't compensate losing one player. Worse, if it's a deceisive class, like CV, not so bad it it's just a floating damage sponge - but even that has an influence, because any shell not shot at you gets shot at your team instead. So, who would have guessed, the teams results are based upon little and little influences the teams members. If you have two have teams which are equally skilled but for one bad player, that team is going to lose more often. Which in turn leads to below average win rates for that player. Everyone else gets switched around in random MM, staying average (or a little above, now that the bad player lowered the hurdle) untill, after an infninite amount of games, he arrives at 'his' win rate. Winning a 1 on 1 doesn't qualify for anything. Getting deleted by a lucky torp means nothing. Neither does winning when playing overly agressive and getting lucky doing so. Sooo....

Remind me again - how long does a DDs repair party last? And how is "turning in" an improvement of the DDs situation, getting spotted even longer so everyone can chew at him - And why torps following someone home into their butt instead of stopping to track at some point? Why is it that the community thinks CVs and everyone at WG thinks DDs instead?! Also, U4501 when? I want a sub specifically designed to murder CVs please.

Of course beliefs can be discounted as bovine excrement.If you state something, the burden of proof is on you. I can see several ways to do that, however given that it is( allegedly) decided by a third party.......I will refrain to do so. a) Could you please not modify my quotes into [edited]? At least write something like "fixed it for you" to claim authorship, because people might read this and could think I make idiotic claims. b) So you think everyone who ever improved his game by, say, reading a guide, watching an instructional video, learning about positioning, angling and overmatch never had an influence didn't actually and only improve by ....say, what exactly are you implying? What way do you think is there to improve you won't go down? Whaling? But I know enough trash whales - why doesn't it work for them? And I don't whale anything, either, I usually only spend 50€ on christmass for a year of premium. Not this year, though, still had enough left over. How the did I manage to improve when it's not the things I actually did? I tell you what it is. You are a bad player. You don't want that to be true, so you look for excuses, one dumber than the other, just so you don't have to face that fact. This is reinforced by having a good match every 50 matches where you actually didn't just perish, one where you devstruck an oblivious or unlucky opponent, and that makes you feel that you aren't bad. And then you get devstruck five times in a row because you're oblivious yourself and blame the team or claim that the enemy has a higher chance to citadel you. Yes, they do. Because you show so much broadside, it's a free lunch for them! The two of you are cute. How about you open up a self help group for the competence challenged? Where you can tell yourself just how great players you are, just held back by "personalized RNG" and matchmaking that puts you on the team with the "imbeciles". You can call it "the super-unicums of hearts", how about that? I know of several others here in the forum who could join your little filter bubble. You could even have a get together and go out for dinner? Travel is cheap, an implausible number of you fit in a very small car...