Slargmann

No. People are stupid, and that makes me sad.

Nonsense. Why would cheaters complain about cheating? It's self evident. The honest players who only play for fun and don't care about their WR are being cheated of their fun by cheaters who hate fun and only care about WR. Besides. Everyone knows the MM decides matches. A super unicum can have 30% WR and a total dog can have 70% all down to the whims and vagaries of the MM.

Presumably because they can't compete with the cheaters due to the fact that they [said cheaters] are cheating.. It is only logical.

Funny. Second match I get into today after having this discussion, an Atago puts 4 torpedoes into me at point blank range in my Nagato. Yet when I accidentally hit him with a volley I get pinked and he doesn't. Just awesome.

I ran into mtm78 in his Ibuki, I think it was. Alas, I had to carry him.

I got out of position early and was worried I wouldn't be able to contribute, but it turned out ok. I've never claimed I'm "not a forumite". I've simply stated that I agree with Jingles that the level of childishness here is too damn high. --- Regarding team damage, I understand what you're saying and it's clear we disagree wildly here. While I frequently have to hold fire because people stray into my path I can count the number of times on one hand that I've had to hold fire because a teammate was so close to the enemy that I might hit him, and I can only recall a single match where I actually ended up hitting a friendly rather than enemy in the target zone. Over around 1700 battles that's a tiny, tiny number. I would be surprised if anyone else had a very divergent experience with accidental friendly fire. I will at the same time grant that the times I've been involved in deliberate "friendly" fire incidents don't really outnumber the accidental ones by that much so by that measure it may also be a case of fixing something that on the whole isn't really broken.

If I were to guess, I would assume that friendly collision damage is low because friendly collisions are several orders of magnitude more likely to happen given that friendlies tend towards maneuvering in close proximity and hostiles by the very nature of the game do not. If collision damage was equalized [to other types of damage], you'd see team kills every game rather than every once in a while. But that still means that there is precedent for treating different damage types in different ways. I think the game as a whole would improve by removing or severely reducing friendly fire damage from shells. Griefers could still use torpedoes, but someone else will have to come up with a solution there as I can't see one.

There's more than ample precedent. Collision with opponent does much damage. Collision with ally does negligible damage. In your limited view that'd constitute "no sense". But it makes in fact perfect sense under the present model. The same mechanic could readily apply to friendly fire with the exception of torpedoes. In regards to not so friendly fire when scraping, it isn't always obvious that someone is close by since they can be in the danger zone without physically touching depending entirely on their size relative to yours.

I tend to run into tough streaks when i waffle back and forth. Then i hit a hot streak and finish a rank or two. I have found that if the going gets too tough my game gets worse due to irritation and then it is time for a break. Especially so when you get placed with the same tomato game after game. Just keep practicing and improve your game. Victories will follow.

It doesn't matter that he wasn't accidentally doing it. I have no trouble believing it was deliberate. It does matter that asking for a perma-ban without knowing the particulars of the situation is f-ing retarded.

Yes I am. Like mtm you're on the wrong side of the curve and are sadly not party to "getting" whatever "it" is. But since you've got nominal status here you believe you can act like a donkey whenever you feel like it. Maybe you can, maybe you can't.

Reported for provocation.

Not surprising you can't read good. I specifically didn't accuse anyone of anything. I specifically noted that it's a combination of the victim failing to notice they're entering someone's line of fire, and me failing to notice someone's entering my line of fire. But you're so riled up you take every chance you get at a shot at me. Get a grip, man. Or at least make an effort to. I suspect you can. This scenario has nothing to do with torpedoes. Read my post again. Then read it twice more. Then try to parse it.

Reported for trolling and provocation and insult. I don't have to explain anything. I simply have to insist that you don't know enough about the situation to warrant the response you gave. You're a terrible representative for WG. You're also not very clever. I am in no way or shape calling the OP a liar.

I'd ask you to start using your brain, but I don't want another report for slander.

I see. Never mind then. Thanks.

Does firing on friendlies causing damage actually legitimately fill a purpose? In WoT it's fair because there are situations in which you might have to take care whether you take a shot or not because you might hit a friendly. It's important that it has a friendly fire mechanic. Here though the situations where you might inadvertently hit your allies are so limited as to be nearly irrelevant. In fact, the only time I've hit my allies by mistake is when they accidentally sail too close and I didn't notice them. Torpedoes should for obvious reasons still incur friendly fire damage but I'd argue that there's zero reason for having friendly shells do damage.

You should be perma banned just for the basis of this one post. You have no idea what happened during the battle. Even if nothing happened to justify the TKs you still have no idea of the circumstances yet you're more than happy to scream about perma bans. [edited]

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Actually, strictly speaking it would be x3.5 since the x2 "special" is really just a +0.5x special.

Why not just remove mods entirely since they are the root of the problem?

A person on my team, let's call him "Mr X" accidentally killed two of his teammates in Ranked today when they were talking smack about how he shouldn't bring Nagato to Ranked. He still gained his star. I guess that should be a lesson to all smack talkers. Just don't do it. At least not when the target of your smack talk is still alive to accidentally shoot you.

Too funny.

Nah. The people I'm talking about are people who legitimately aim well.