Shadeshots

So after skimming through this people basically just want DD's removed completely from the game, great... DD's are a specialist role a good DD player is a good DD player and if you are up against one then tough luck, you have been given so many counters to DD's the fact you calling DD's basically op is laughable, the amount of nerfs they have had due to threads like this simply ridiculous since OBT/Alpha and the reasons are laughable in themselves, you have Cruisers, Spot Planes, Carrier Planes, DD smoke was nerfed, torpedo indicators so you can see them in the water, torpedo warning, in the 4.1 patch the rudder shift is being increased... simply not sailing in a STRAIGHT LINE by changing course or speed if you think or know one is close is enough to not have to worry about them, or staying near allies. That is basically the mentality im reading here, that everything is fair but DD's yet DD's are hard to play well, torpedos have the least hit rate in the entire game and i could go on. Try actually playing one. Seems like another BB's must be unstoppable thread. If your so concerned about DD's getting so close, why are you allowing them to get there as a team in the first place? If thats the case then your at fault and if you end up dying because of it thats fair play to the DD and a epic fail on your part and your team for allowing such a situation from happening in the first place. and its as simple as that.

Many people me included dont want to come home from work, chill out and sit and listen to lots of people spamming horns all game, also it being on a cooldown is just silly, the whole idea is just silly. Horns no thanks, and it doesnt matter how high the tiers go, the same amount of seriousness is at all tiers, high tiers dont generally mean people are more serious infact ive seen team kills more often in high tiers.

Anyone got a rough idea when they going to implement the new patch to the live servers? Just this mm is really starting to get to me i love this game but enough is enough. Just a general question.

The Ice map is reserved mainly for higher tier battles because its 1 of biggest maps they have right now which makes sense considering high tier ships have bigger fire range.

Will think of something to say later.

I agree that they are NOT Severe enough, i just got out of a game where 1 of our DD's teamkilled 4 of our guys and he didnt even go pink for teamkiller let alone most definitely wont get punished enough for it either. The odd few games where mistake happen is fine, we are all humans and we all make mistakes but seeing a DD on my own team teamkilling 4 of our ships with a -4 score is too obvious and is no way in hell 'accidental' thats just a dumb concept if you think so. WG need to up their game with this it was the same in WoT and they didnt seem to care much about it and its happening here far more in the past few months, mostly due to the influx of new players. So my question to WG is are you actually going to clamp down on this, this time? Because it takes the fun out of the game and ruins it for the players that want to play it? Having a credit penalty is just too soft its doesn't stop them from doing it.

This sounds like one of those threads where the BB is suppose to be unstoppable.

The general gist to my understanding on CV's from what ive seen and my own experience in playing them, is USN CV's have and always will have more planes per squad with less squads, USN Fighters will slaughter IJN fighters. IJN CV's have more squads, less planes per squad.

I was under the impression that the only reason the hood was sunk was due to the ship being a few seconds out from getting her thickest armor turned on the bismark the hoods rudder was at full shift when they found its wreckage, the hood also exploded 3 times, since it was found in 3 parts, the first being the rear from the main explosion when the bismark shell went through the upper deck armor at the rear, which was not thickened like the front due to the fact it would make the ship too heavy. Thats explosion 1, the 2nd was after that when the explosion ripped through the ship to the front aft mag which then exploded there aswell and then something exploded near the middle since the conning tower was found as a 3rd part. It was found just in 3 parts from 3 explosions. To my understanding. I dont claim to know what im on about thats just my understanding of that incident, i know this is a bismark thread though.

They need to add spotting or something along these lines currently right now unless your shooting someone you get nothing for the game you play and in a DD thats a death wish... any good DD isnt going to risk open combat and wont but they get no reward for not participating in it which i think is wrong... because if they do, they are pretty much dead...

Added to that you dont even get spotting ribbons in this game....

Not really 5km -3km range is a minor difference and the distance is covered really fast so your 5km torps most cases in a brawl will be launched at 3km anyways.

Give it a patch or two more then they will underperform they get nerfed every patch due to all the whiners about torpedoes who sail in straight lines or put themselves into bad situations.

DD's in general might aswell be removed from the game lets go the whole hog WG and just have BB's in the game, i use to really enjoy my DD, they are fragile and they hit hard with torps which is fair enough and you can tell a decent DD from a bad one. They have to make alot of sacrifices often themselves just to get anything out of games and then WG just want to nerf them into the ground every patch. At this rate in all honestly they may aswell just get rid of DD's every patch has been a nerf to them just because idiot players sail into stupid situations or a straight line then get picked off, then they come to these forums to [edited] and cry about it, im seriously losing faith for this game i enjoyed it alot and had high hopes back in CBT, but this direction is going to destroy a valid class in this game if this i going to keep on happening, the whole idea of having CA,CV,BB and DD is for different playstyles but the only class that gets nerfed for absolutely no reason is the DD's so whats the point anymore...

If they implement this i hope theres an option to turn it off or at least mute certain people.

Its not 3 mins for a cap its actually 2 mins for a solo cap.

this guy again...

A very one sided poll. Need a straight 'Yes' or 'No'.

This is exactly my point of my last reply, thanks for proving.

You cant say anything constructive in a thread that is just full of whinges and whines and people at each others throats, but if your so badly looking for one, heres something constructive. Shut up enjoy the game, end the topic. People like you are the bane of a decent game your jumping to conclusions over something that hasn't even happened. As such this enitre thread has as usual got out of hand as every thread on EU forums tend do to. Makes me laugh really that the EU is generally the most toxic bunch out of all the other different communities.

Go and join the Army, Navy, Air Force w/e then come back and tell us this, and i mean actually fighting one not sitting at the back watching one, if ofc your not dead before hand, You have no idea what war is like, so stop talking like you do, you have no idea what so ever and never will. Take it from someone whos been there. (Ex forces) Vote to close topic.

So he plays one game screenshots it posts it on the forums and complains atagos are a burden? Just because you had a game like that doesnt mean every Atago' is a burden, and personally ive never seen an issue with any that ive seen. Other than the odd 1 or 2 occasions which is too small to even consider a 'burden' as such.

Lots of tears in here. I'm not bothered whether mods are allowed or not aslong as i can play the game how its meant to be played (without em) But the reactions and responses from alot of the people in this thread is pathetic.

Dont have a problem evaporating bad BB players with Citadel hits. Because i know what my ship can do and where to shoot.

Torpedo hit the least in the game right now, and you want to nerf them even more? So the point of DD's are what exactly? I could repeat the same thing i type in all these 'torpedos are op i suck at dealing with them' threads but i cba. There is nothing wrong with torpedoes, you are the problem. Whats even more funny is every single one of them the OP googles torps and talks facts thinking they know what they are talking about.