Prophecy82

Wenn man davon absieht, dass der LIMBO Werfer der Vampire II schwenkbar war und mehr oder minder lageunabhängig auch nach vorne feuern konnte und nicht nur 3 kleine Kötel in die Luft wirft wie ein Pavian, sondern 2 dreiecks-pattern.... dann hast du recht. Wobei WG gar nicht mal berücksichtigt, dass die Teile technisch ausgereifter waren als nur ein paar Fässer mit TNT über Bord zu schmeißen. Wie es momentan aussieht zählt nur Quantität und nicht Qualität. Das macht dann Tashkent (z.B.) zu einen wesentlich besseren Sub-Hunter als Friesland. Bester Tipp für alle DDs: Rennt einfach weg vor den U-Booten und lasst Schiffe das erledigen, die funktionale ASW - sprich Flugzeuge - haben. Ironischerweise sind DDs am schlechtesten dazu geeignet Subs zu bekämpfen... außer der Sub-Spieler ist so blöd und lässt es zu.

Why? Sounds reasonable for a 3-day "consumable"....

I got the T7 one. I may have spent some community tokens. Was still worth it. So far I enjoyed them all. I may keep them, but I dont have fitting captains for them, sadly.

Havent touched that one in a long time... How does it fare when its lowtier?

Subs were always trash. As they are they dont fit in the game. Had a match yesterday with no DDs, 2xT10 Subs, 1xT8 CV. It was the pinnacle of passive gameplay... even from me. We won, but it didnt matter bcs I was bored to death. I can post the replay if you have a sleep-disorder but cant take Valium.

I would say Serov is second place regarding busted T6 Techtree CVs. Ryujo is still the king.

Doesnt matter anyway. I like the mode. But the players are hilariously bad and have no clue at all. Replace all BB-Players with Bots and you would actually win vs. "Human" Teams since all BBs tend to kuddle in one corner.

The really real reason why friendly fire was removed!

But isnt this sad? Not to mention that a good salvo can delete half your ship only with a few fullpens... But this was already the case pre-IFHE-rework. Which brings me back to my Quotation in the OP: How does this "new" armor-scheme help CA/CL at all?

Well, I only played 10 Battles so far with her, but atm she tops all my CA/CL statistics at T9. Some comparisons to older ships wouldnt be fair tho, since apparently I got actually a bit better lately. I hated the guts out of Buffalo and I never made it work. IMHO the core issue is that T9 CA/CLs are weak (except for the Supercruisers) and T9 Ranked is reflecting this for years... its all about DDs and BBs. Tulsa will not change this but imo she will be a better pick then Buffalo, Seattle, Riga or Donskoi.... at least for me.

1v1 Tulsa may still win since Buffalo cant use all the guns against it.... unless it likes to get nuked. In that situation you can half Buffalos DPM.

What Flamu didnt get (since he compared it to DM): You dont suffer the abysmal T10 MM. That means: Less subs and less CVs. It boils down to: Are you willing to only get 2/3rds of a DM for better MM?

You should know that Im not a random Noob. That said, ofc I angle at longer distances but the only thing it does is, to reduce the ammount of shells that will actually hit the ship. In cases of such CLs and close distances I will show flat broadside since I actually DO have better results in midgitating dmg. So pls have a laugh and queue up. I mean you can sail broadside to a Moskva in a Smolensk at sub 10km at laugh at him as he desperatly tries to not overpen your citadel.

Ah, that explains....

Eendracht (f.e.) didnt get the memo... Bcs at that ranges you get misses?

Easy test: shoot at a broadside Mainz and enjoy free overpens at 7km or less. Works with D7P, too. If you really want smth infuriating: Shoot a broadside Leander in Champagne at 10km or less.

Indeed. I bounced an AP-Salvo from Petro in my Ragnar. Guess that was one in a lifetime shot for that Petro.... and I had trouble not falling from my chair laughing.

Dont play T10. It solves most of the problems.

Lets play your Idea through in our minds. Assuming nobody has a problem to find a Match. Since you are get matched with your "WR-Peers", your WR will fall over time and level out on about 50% WR. This will be true for unicums as well as payed actors. As result everyone will meet again in the 50% WR bracket. So in the long run nothing will change. Btw. what about Divisions, how do they factor in?

Im quite happy to have a season without BS-Classes.... gonna enjoy it, I think. I´d love to see Smaland, Petro, Kremlin and Venecia perma-banned, but thats not gonna happen, I suppose.

Da nehme ich gerne das Treffermachen statt höheres DMG-Potential... mal davon abgesehen dass der max-dmg pro Geschoss sich gerade mal um ca. 1k DMG unterscheidet. Und bisher hatte ich wenig Probleme Kreuzer gleicher Stufe zu devstriken. Da Gneisenau dies nicht bei BBs packt (ohne Torps) würd ich sagen, dass bzgl. der Kanonen der Fresser definitiv gewinnt.

The new patch killed Replays again. I cant view replays from older versions. Would it be so hard to make a replay tool that works for all Versions?

Ja, das stimmt schon. Dennoch teilen sie sich die gleiche Tierstufe. Ums vorweg zu nehmen: Ich geb ehrlich gesagt einen feuchten Kehricht auf "historical accuracy", gerade da WG das Argument ja immer wieder rauszaubert... aber nur wenn es ihnen in den Kram passt.

Ich nenne ihn nur noch "den Fresser"... weil er Schaden frisst ohne Ende. Dennoch gibt es Momente wo er einfach nur großartig ist. Das Einzige was mich wirklich stört, ist, dass Scharn und Gneisenau schneller sind... gerade als Schlachtkreuzer sollte er doch da mithalten können.

My interpretation of this graphs are, that there is neither a skill-floor nor a skill-ceiling regarding the use of armament on subs. Besides that, the Graphs dont show how effective (or not) subs are, at all.