Prophecy82

So you want even more skills that reduce concealment?! That would just lead to even less diversity since most DDs would have to pick all of them, just to have a "balance of power", since vision control is still a winning factor.

I have the past and the present skills in mind, I havent thought of any new skills. Lets face it: CE and LS ARE default picks on 99% of the DDs. Personally I can ignore them on Haru and Khaba. So yea, pretty much all DDs cant afford not to get these. Thats a fact. 4 Pts for CE is just a c0ckblock for DDs since they need it. Just go sealclubbing in a Clemson with CE and compare your result to the sad scrubs who dont have it. It is that powerful, so make it 1Pt and you close the power-gap between newbs and vets. Making both skills 1Pt would free up 5 Points and thats where the diversity would come from... given the rest of the skills allow diversity, which is not the case atm since they practically force you to go down one path.

No, I havent looked up your stats, but I know from my personal experience that it is insanely unlikely to do 2,5k BXP (and since your whole division is getting that, you could argue that it is a reward) on a regular basis.... That would be pretty much perma-carry. I agree with you, that the Rewards given by the Missions are pathetic... but Imo its all about having the "right" mindset: For me that is, IF I have a decent enough division (I have) THEN I can farm XP in those modes very easy. I mean you need about 10 Wins (rather less, but havent checked) to grind trough a T8 ship. You cant do that in random.... not in that time. So no harm done. I just wanted to point out that there is an other way to look at the brawls reward-wise and that one (besides having a good laugh) I find quite attractive. Personally I save my flags and Camos for these events (and CW-Gale) because I know that it is rather unlikely to loose (esp. early on). Edit: OK, I checked: I did about 40k XP / Win with not having the best Camo... thats 3-4 Wins for a T8 finished.

No. I dont think you do. Since you definitely dont do 2500 BXP in every random win.

Be careful what you wish (read chat).

Yea, I think its the Patch. After a big Patch usually more ppl get drawn back into the game. I noticed the same in Silver btw... Also Deadeye didnt help at all. Even having a 4v2 advantage on my flank (after I killed the DD), BBs refused to push.

No, you cant. Infact the Rework really butcherd some (overspecialized) Builds I ran. My Marceau for example was a pure DD Hunter Build (CE, RPF, BFT, Reload Mod). t doesnt work anymore since WG made BFT the worst pick ever and the stupid "Fearless" Skill debuffs concealment. So you have to play it like any other Gunboat now, which is boring af. Regarding DD Skills: You go Torp or you go Dakka and these are the only viable paths. Hybrids or Specialists are dead thanks to this Rebork. And the worst part is: even if you recreate your old build with a 21Pter, you get less effectivness out of it then before. In a class that already has the lowest avg. dmg! What that rework did is just a scam: You get more Points but less viable builds. WTF? Sure, you can run nonsensical builds like Kitakaze without CE, but whats the point of that? IF WG wanted variety they would have made (speaking of DDs here) CE and Last Stand 1 Pt Skills. THEN we could have tried diverse builds and by doing so they would have reduced the Powergap between Vets and Newbies.... but Im repeating myself...

Yolo E. is just a T9 Podwoijski. Change my mind.

In general I agree with your proposal. Still there should be a Bonus for winning.... maybe 1.1 multiplier? Reason is: Why play for objectives then? If you have a good aim it would be silly not to join the useless HE spammer train otherwise.

Then the only logical consequence is: Remove CVs.

Good CV vs Bad CV.... what could possibly happen? Still that shouldnt be an excuse for the guy who posted that screen.

You could also try CVs with HE Rockets. Destroyed AA Modules should count too, right?

Actually the rewards were kinda nice. If you flag your ship you can make about 20k FXP with a win.... thats the main reward imo (I made about 140k FXP in that session). Anyways, was fun, we had a good laugh. Made a "Nations Challenge" (only picks from one nation allowed)... KM and IJN won, Murica lost (we shouldnt have brought 5 Anchorages tho...)

I think it became clear that the Skill-Rework needs a lot of Re-Balanz.... So, can we expect that the free Reskill time for the Rework-Rebalance will be prolonged?

Odd... I compared my most played ships in this season: Udaloi, Tashkent and Yolo E: They are all pretty much on par in winrate and avg. dmg. Yolo leads by a lot regarding avg kills ( 1.3 vs. 0.9). Yet both RU-DDs have far more PR then Yolo. Main reason might be that I focus more on caps in RU-DDs... and farming reset ribbons is a good way to boost your BXP.

Im done with this weeks sprint. All in all not too shabby with Yolo E... RPF is a big help for hunting DDs and so far I was only bested once by a Marceau. Prepare to get quite a few reports from sleepy BBs when you wake them up with danger pylons. I think I lost about 4 Matches but managed to safe my star 3 times. Actually it was overall so far rather easy to safe a star (mostly played DD the whole season) Idk why... did WG change the XP generation for DDs? One part of it surely is that you fight T10s in a T9 ship.

I tried "Dazzle" its OK... but in the end it isnt my style to play. You know that when you use "Swift in Silence" + Speedboost + Speedflag you outrun your own smoke? Yolo stuff is all nice and fun (devstuck Ohio and Conkek in one Battle) but imo you cant force it. One advatage is ofc that many DD players havent experienced yet that one Yolo E salvo smacks them for up to 8k dmg.

Hard to tell... havent done a significant ammount of Ranked Battles in it. I found Udaloi and Tashkent to be easy mode compared to Yolo E. On the other hand, thanks to 21 Pt. captain you can get RPF, AFT and CE which makes it actually an useable DD hunter and gunboat. Radar isnt that much of a problem since cruisers are a rare breed in Ranked, at least thats my observation so far... Dont contest caps early on... but thats a no brainer.

Lass mich raten: Die Currywurst hat versucht zu pushen? Fataler Fehler! Das ist sooooo 2020!

In gold are (I assume) the most back line sniper bobs in their thunderers. T10 is thanks to sniper Bobs unbearable... the gameplay is stale and boring af. Staying in Silver was the best choice I made this season. This sprint I try Yolo E. Back to topic: Safe a star can stay... or go. Doesnt matter really in sprints. Its easy enough to get thru them. If even Bots can rank out nowadays... who cares?

If there was a rollback to 07.12(?), what would we loose shipwise? So far I would only miss FR-DDs and Yolo E. But lets not glorify past times too much. Good CVs were cancerous af: I remember my Tirpitz getting oneshotted by Lexington, without me having any chance to counter (which could be done with skill-less autodrop btw). I remember crossdrops worthy the "guess I die" Meme. At least CVs had to fear something...

Holy Moly, what a fight! My last salvo actually decided if win or loss! Defnitely the Match of the month for me. Also: 2 Kraken on our side.... and one Teamkill. 20210126_193745_PASB110-Vermont_28_naval_mission.wowsreplay

Nah, just a sealclubber....

Regarding DDs I HATE the new skilltree, it only allows pretty much only 2 Paths: Full Dakka, or full Torp. The main culprits are BFT since it has become a trash-skill, and fearless due to its conceal debuff, which is for some ships still (imo) unacceptable. F.e. I used to play Marceau as a dedicated DD hunter (BFT, CE, RPF, Dakka-Mod) but now I cant do this anymore bcs I lack concealment and/or RoF. Same is true for Kidd as an agressive Cap-contester. Regarding CA/CL: I pick the same skills as usual (and I think I got more out of DM then before) if it is an utility cruiser or has excellent conceal like IJN tree. Or I go for the "attention wh0re build" which feels a bit uneasy and less usefull but the dmg.... omg the dmg! Esp on Lütjens Hindi its insane. So I cant complain that much... but I havent tested Supercruisers yet... oh and Colbert got nerfed hard. Regarding BBs: You pick Deadeye and conceal (rest is up to you). Regarding CVs: Even more broken/insane then before.

Shameless copy from @Deckeru_Maiku #1 - Dead Eye: All BBs. Try it on Kremlin and see Stalins wet dream in action. #2 - Super Heavy AP (BB) - not worth it. Not with all that HE spam. Would be interesting if you get 10-15% more dmg (that would be most likely OP tho) #3 - Super Heavy HE/SAP - Works fine for me on large CAs: Esp. Hinden, HIV, Yoshino, Venice... ships that have a decent to good range and no utility like radar. #4 - Heavy AP (Cruiser): Its rather cheap, so I use it on DM and Hinden. #5 - Outnumbered - useless skill/noobtrap. #6 - Top Grade Gunner - Works great in combination with Super Heavy HE/SAP... so used on the same ships (nice synergy between 3 and 6) #7 - Dazzle - Havent found a ship/build where I could use it... I hoped it would work on Leggy-Kleber but not with this meta and perma CVs. #8 - Fearless Brawler - Stupid skill. Use it only on LR-Morg and LR-Kleber, I whish i dont have to. But BFT is dead. #9 - Swift in Silence - Makes Yolo E + speedflag and speedboost outrun his own smoke (lol), could be hilarious on Yolo E. but not my playstyle. #10 - Extra-Heavy AP (DD) - I use it on RU DDs, since i switch quite often to AP. Might be good on Marceau, too (but im not sure).