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I am %100 sure nothnig changed You can hit citadel from magazine part(under turrets) but it is simply a lot harder to do due to them being realyl small and better protected.

You can try this in training room. The boiler rooms in wows is considered as parts you can penetrate for citadel hits at 4:17 ichase explains it very well

There is only tirpitz for german tech tree for now. There will be more of course. But warspite was in game before all this.

that is due to your shots bouncing inside. http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/18034-basics-damage-mechanics/ The pic is from here. Believe it or not the actual citadel in game is considered as boiler room. If you fire at a ship from 90 degree angle shots that hit under front turret will not do citadel damage. At an angled point to get citadel hits you have to in a way the shells can reach to the boiler rooms

Can you find me the blueprint of new orleans. I tried to search for it but couldnt find any. If there is no boiler room under front turrets then there is no citadel spot. Shots can bounce inside the ship so there is a possibility of that shot bouncing inside the ship and then hitting the citadel

No base is 13km thats with GFCM2 the 3 mil upgrade. It increases the range by %16

you need to hit the waterline you know that right? I would understand if you were talking about cleveland's citadel because its the only ship with small divided citadels

WG yanlış yapmıyor. Sen taşan bardağa boş tarafından bakıyorsun. Bu oyun F2P yani oyunu indirip oynaman sana paraya mal olmuyor. Paralı DLC gibi paketleri de yok. Bu yüzden oyunu üst tierlerde daha acımasız yapıyorlar. Ya para verip üst tier oynarsın(premium hesap veya tier 8 premium) ya da bedava oynamak istersen daha az para harcatan tierleri oynarsın. Yeni katılanlar pek umursamıyor bu tip olayları. Adam kazansa da kaybetse de para kazanıyor tecrübe puanı geliyor. Eğer bu tip sistem sorunlu olsaydı WoT 6 yıl boyunca dimdik kalmazdı. Orada tabi istatistik kasanlara karşı koruma var tier 1-2-3 de. Buraya da gelir zamanla o sistem. Ben pek sanmıyorum yeni oyuncuların oyunu bu yüzden bırakıp gideceğini. Zaten anlamıyorlar ki nasıl oynandığını. Ayrıca oyun piyasadaki yavaş oyunlardan birisi yani kötü ile iyi oyuncunun arasındaki fark çok aşırı belli olmuyor. Bir de buna artı olarak tier 1-2-3-4-5 bayağı dengeli. Arada umikaze gibi tipler sivriliyor tabi.

You can try hitting the part where it meets magazine but citadel in this game is where the boiler room is at. I am aware of that graph and yes there is a possibility of a person doing citadel damage under turret. But thats like trying to climb the house and trying to make your own hole to get in. Why dont you use the open door? Also two can play that game (Taken from wows wiki)

SNDDs gun ships with not so recpectable torps. Midget cruisers USNDDs gun ships with respectable(after tier 7) torps. Normal destroyer IJNDDs torpedo boats with terrible torps. Submarine-destroyer child. Kinda like mule(child of a horse and donkey)

could be possible but i doubt they learned anything.

I WANT H-45 WITH 800MM CANONS

Yeni oyuncu olsanız diyeceğim bunlar bilmiyor. Herkes oynadığı tierde para yapabilse kaç kişi oynar sanıyorsun düşük tierleri? Ha dert derken bu sorun düzeltilmeli şeklinde demiyorsan pardon tepkim için.

do you even know where the citadels are? You dont try to hit the magazine under turrets you try to hit the part under chimney. i didnt watch the video btw just taking your word for "10x under front turret"

Win rate does NOT matter. Who cares about win rate? Seriously? The CVs that were OP(strike deck) didnt mostly have %49+ win rate. That link contains old data and it does not provide any info about the time length it has. Midway didnt have 126k average damage. The average damage of all ships went up after 0.4.1 update because most of the stats websites did a clean up. Sorry if the truth hurts you but you have to get used to it. I can make a website that contains lies and call those numbers. But that doesnt make them true. You arent making any logical arguement. Maybe try playing above tier 5 and maybe you should even try getting better stats in minekaze. You know words from an below avarage player in minekaze is funny Edit: Oh btw after mirror MM and such DD win rate went up. And again win rate is not important at all http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20150904et/average_ship.html Edit2: I cant even believe people like you still exists

Well thats not what stats are saying Minekaze right now is the 6th highest average damage at tier 5 without premium ships included. With premiums included that goes down to 8th. Minekaze was the 2nd highest average damage at tier 5 before nerf

You need to learn the game. Dont expect game to roll around you its not your dog

It isnt wargaming's fault though. They are working with other companies. I believe one of them was said to be the ship modellers. And according to news RN ship making team is so freaking slow that they cant keep up. They were going to bring in soviets first and then germans. But the tables turned around as german ship modelling team was faster.

well i dont know maybe surface? 18 knots speed? Who? which ship does that? Buddy if you suck and expect your team to have telepathical lines its your fault. Oh you got a bad team? deal with it. You are asking for a buff in alpha stage of wows they did make secondaries fairly accurate and they didnt like the way BBs became too powerfull. Also navyfield 2? that garbage? Yeah sure why dont they also bring submarines too huh? If you have a problem with the game because the class you play isnt OP dont cry here.

Those stats are wrong. Why? They are old stats. http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20151003et/average_ship.html I am starting to think you are a biased player. Dont make me laugh now

This isnt like a whining complaining. You dont see people make a thread and scream eachother over unbalanced high tier IJNDDs. People at high tier dont learn much about how to evade them. I certainly dont expect you to understand this. You dont have any DD above tier 5. And even the minekaze you have is not promising stats wise. You know you are underperforming in minekaze. But thats not the point of this discussion I am a CBT player and a very curious logical human being. Therefore i am used to search stuff i work with. I played over 600 DD battles(500 CBT+120 in OBT). I experienced the problem with these DDs. One of the problems is this chart At high tiers you dont only lose reaction time you also lose the stealth of your torpedoes. There are just too much planes up in the air and your torpedoes only become worse and worse. But the main block of stone is developers' idea. Developers want DDs to be support class. SNDDs are a nice example for that. They dont want DDs to be submarines. They want DDs to be small cruisers with torps as secondaries. And to make DDs fit that idea they have been nerfing DDs since start of CBT. They started CBT with a clean DD nerf(was needed) and then kept nerfing them. It was kind of alright in last parts of CBT. There was a need for smoke nerf. But they overnerfed it. They also buffed the HE effect on DDs and lowered 127mm HE effect on other ships. And after all these nerfs they also nerfed the module health on DDs. There are many other stuff i can tell in details(mutsuki class DD etc). But the most important part is high tier DD(T7-T10) player amount is too low. Right now high tier CV player amount is 6322 while high tier DD amount is 9771. High tier CVs have 78 battles per owner while high tier DDs have 67 battles per owner. Oh btw the mirror MM and deleting strike setup was a nice buff for DDs

%3* Maybe...

Oh you are new here? No the game isnt well balanced after tier 5 IJNDD side goes down hill. Everyone is complaining about the poor high tier destroyer gameplay

where did you check it from though? The gamemodels website? That website has the old informations about it Watched some reviews about SNDDs and tier 10 SNDD has 7.9k base detection range with 10km torps