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told you he is a payer and it makes him mad for not getting a ship. [edited]

why are you even questioning his logic? he clearly is a pre order buyer. And most of pre order buyers think that they bought CBT acces so they have every right to get all ships. Just another silly idea.

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Happend to me before aswell 3 torpedo hits did 126 damage total but i couldnt take picture because i was shocked at that moment

ranger which is teir 7 has 72 planes in the hangar and can controll 4 squadrons(can be 6 but thats the 5th skill) this isnt "single " extreme example that was an answer to darod khaan but whatever i say you wont understand because you obviously dont have a clue how to discuss stuff

this indeed a magazine hit. But this happens at high tiers all te time. Not the magazine thing. Getting hit by divebobmers and receiving at least 3k damage is just a usual every day thing.

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too weak? what? what the duck? A DB can take you out with 1-2 bombs. Last time i was fighting against a DB in my fubuki one bomb took my 6k hp. They are not weak you just dont have high tier destroyer to be hit with them. Its all flowers and bees at low tiers until tier 6. thats where the real problems start. after Hatsuharu your turning radius doesnt go below 630meters. Which is a problem. Rudder shif doesnt matter much when you are fighting against DBs you are jsut not going to turn fast enough to dodge them

comparing IJNCA to IJNDD? IJNCA thats just wrong.

i m not saying "make DDs immune to air attack" you are miss leading my words. That said AA cant even take care of scout palnes effectively. A scout plane can stay over you long enough to draw some CA's attention and maybe lose your half health and even with that scout palne can get away. Happend before. But my problem isnt scout planes. They are balancing the fight between stealth Dd and big beast BB. CV squadrons defnietly are better than a scout plane.they can take a long beating and keep you spoted a long time. DDs in game i dont think have power against squadrons. The mighty AA is not usefull. So i have this useless decoration just to shut down a scout plane that is controlled by AI not a player? well that doesnt sound good.

Every class except destroyers have good AA. So where do you think an experienced CV player will head to? Divebombers and fighters use it on the destroyers. Torpedo bombers on battleships. I am not asking for a supreme AA like CAs has but i want my AA to be a threat to those planes fly above me. Btw DD AA is inaccurate as hell my AA group cant kill spotter planes. Squadrons also have ability to repair themself magicly when they arent under fire so if CV player pulls those planes out before one of them goes down he will not lose a plane and keep you spoted. This might seem fair against BBs and CAs but i already dont have such power to bring them down. As i said before 7 mins 20 planes(3DB2TB) and only 1 plane kill. This does not seem fair to me

But we dont have 8-10 destroyers each team here in wows do we? I dont want to be screened the whole game which an enemy CV player can do that. DDs in game have bad AA and CAs have good AA man telll me again why do they have defensive fire? They already have good AA and they get a skill to make it even better. This is a problem in my opinion. Hiding in smoke is temporary solution. If i have AA i want them to be effective not just decoration.

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not way before the incident i m talking about 5 volley. It could have been a cruiser torpedo salvo that you saw or you could have taken the amount of torpedoes launched wrong. I m not sure could you give more information please? Did you see like a wall of torpedoes or 5 diffrent volleys?

In wot you can get ammoracked at the first shot you take. Torpedoes have 500 kg explosive in them so they can detonate your ammo rack. it does happen but very rare. And saying this again in wot there was no system such as first damaged then full ammo rack. About the destroyers. IJN torps have more damage at the same tier compared to US ones because IJN torpedoes are mostly slow.(atleast the destroyer ones) Game will not lose "so many players" due to torpedoes since they are basicly nerfed. How many times you had a detonation? once? oh that must mean torpedoes must be nerfed quick get to the nerf stations! You can lower the damage you take by just basicly turning your ship and giving the torp less angle. There is nothing OP about torpedoes. Low tier destoryers need some nerf on their reload time but nothing else. You see the problem there? Never underestimate what a torpedo can do. They arent OP unless you let them be. Like going in straight line and eating 10 torpedo launched from planes and then complaining about how OP they are even tough you could see them coming at you 10-20km away

you know that IJN cruisers also have torpedo right?

Kokos78, on 02 June 2015 - 07:09 AM, said: Funny story and you re right that you should have downed one or two planes but remember that this is a game and they have to keep some balance for everything. If every class of ship had amazing AA then the carriers would be unplayable. i m not saying amaiaizng AA but if a CV player has no rival at enemy team he can just tell one of his squadron to follow the destroyer and that destroyer cant do a damn thing the whole game until it gets near a CA or a BB or even a CV Yep tahts right We have 4 classes and 3 of them has good AA but i m just asking for close range AA like 2.1km range. So when he is flying above me i can turn my AA on and scare him off. Otherwise a CV will always beat a DD. Wouldnt it be that way? Just as i said above i even had a fight against 5 squadrons that kept dropping bombs and torps for 7 mins. How many i killed? 1 1 palne from 20 planes that kept flying over me, bombing my ship and i was in my fubuki. DDs need better AA as they better AA in real life. This is a game i know but as you said balance is needed and screening a "stealth machine" the whole game without taking risk is not balance thats the point where it becomes OP Userext, on 01 June 2015 - 09:03 PM, said: Armament: • 6 × Type 3 127 mm 50 caliber naval guns[1][2] • up to 28 × Type 96 25 mm AT/AA Gun[3][4] • up to 10 × 13 mm (0.52")/76 cal. Type 93 AA guns[5][6] • 9 × 24 in (610 mm) torpedo tubesfor Type 93 torpedoes[7] • 36 depth charges This is akatsuki. Type 3 fubuki. 28x25mm 10x13mm Armament: 6 × Type 3 127 mm 50 caliber naval guns(3×2) up to 22 × Type 96 25 mm AT/AA Guns up to 10 × 13 mm AA guns, 9 × 610 mm (24 in) torpedo tubes 36 × depth charges Uranami Type 1 fubuki 22x25mm 10x13mm Destroyers had much better AA compared to game. We have really inaccurate bad AAs in game. Darod_Khaan, on 02 June 2015 - 06:57 AM, said: No DD´s had good AA and most didn't even have half decent AA. Really? Japanese had enough diffrent varaints of same class ships to chose from which they can add to game using those stats. There is no excuse to give DDs better AA. Or they should remove AA and make DDs better stealthy for air detection because at the moment best one has 3.5km something. IF WG decided to make AA worse(historically inaccurate) for destroyers then whats the point of having them? They dont scare any squadron off. Armament: 3 ×Type 3 120 mm 45 caliber naval gun 10 × Type 96 25 mm AT/AA Guns 4 × 21 inch torpedo tubes 16 × naval mines This is kamikaze 10x 25mm AA is not rubbish is it? Armament: 5 × 138 mm (5.4 in) guns (5×1; 2 forward, 3 aft) 4 × 37 mm (1.5 in) AA guns (4×1) (original) 4 × 13 mm (0.51 in) AA machine guns (original) 8 × 40 mm Bofors AA guns (after refit) 10 × 20 mm Oerlikon guns (after refit) 9 × 550 mm (21.7 in) torpedo tubes(3×3) 40 × mines (some sources state 50) This one here is Le Fantasque French destroyer. (French DDs might be better in game guys) yes this is WW2 destroyer. Armament: 6 x QF 4.7 inch (120-mm) Mk.XII L/45 guns, twin mount CP Mk.XIX 1 x QF 4 in Mk.V (102 mm), mount HA Mk.III 4 x QF 2 pounder Mk.VIII (40 mm), quad mount Mk.VII 4 x QF 20 mm Oerlikon, single mounts P Mk.III 4 x QF 0.5 in Mk.III (12.7mm) Vickers, twin mount Mk.V 5 (1x5) tubes for 21 in torpedoes Mk.IX This is N-class RN destroyer. No DDs didnt have super good AA but they did have good AA because they were supposed to encounter the divebombers which were a big threat to destroyers. They could easily blow the torpedoes destroyers had. Which at most(shimakaze with 3x5) they carried 30 torps and those torpedoes had 500kg explosive in it(460mm yamato shell has 25kg explosive) now think about 15 ton explosive blowing up. Yeah they had to put good AA(not like inhistorical WGAA that has nothing to do with balance) otherwise they would be dead. Which is why you can see diffrent named same class diffrent variants destoryers. Yukikaze, April 1945)• 4 × Type 3 127 mm 50 caliber naval guns (2×2)• 27 × 25 mm Type 96 AA guns• 4 × 13 mm Type 95 AA guns• 8 × Type 92 torpedo tubes (2×4)16 × 610 mm Type 93 torpedoes• 36 × Type 2 or Type 3 depth charges Yukikaze was a variant of kagero.

Are you sure about 5 volleys? because kagero has 2x4 and shimakaze has 3x5 which makes 18 torpedoes.

Well then there must be something wrong with the captain skill. Because even with AA off sitting still in the thick smoke it kept refreshing "spotted by plane" sign. Orange-yellow kept changing.

So 35 knots with 630meters turning radius might aswell put this to cruiser line... I had enough with this. I have been trying not to open this kind of thread but i kinda cant take it anymore. Can this destroyer get some love? Gearing got buffed to its consealment so it is possible to buff the destoryers right? I cant dodge the torp that is coming right at me 90 degree. I have the upgrades and such to make the ship have faster rudder shift(2.6sec) but it just doesnt work i died 4 times by a torpedo hit that caught me from 90 degree angle. I tried diffrent thing each one of them. Cut the speed front of the ship hit 17k damage torpedo insta killed me. Tried to turn into it while cutting the speed it hit the front of my ship(again) and insta kill. Tried to overrun it and turn towards it so save my [edited]but wasnt fast enough(there is that 630meter turning radius for you) And the main part where it annoys me the most these torp hits werent fired directly at me a DD or an IJNCA fires his torps to another ship but i end up being the one to get spiked Yes it kinda is a good ship but damn that maneuverability some BBs turn better than me some cruisers are faster than me if an Iowa chases me i cant fight back (Iowa 33knots) what is this? a low tier cruiser? Historcially fubuki had 39 knots speed. Can you please consider buffing the maneuverability for this ship?

salty? do i ave to visit you at your home and tell you it was a joke? or will you get it?

shimashima? zekamashi? quit naming her its shimakaze

But as you can see DDs has some good AA they can make that AA close range(2-2.5km) to at least keep those stalkers away. I am not saying destroyers should alwasy be keep hidden. But after 7 mins of bombing killing at least 5-6 planes would be fine. Seriously 7 mins of fight aganist a hiryu's squadrons. i fought against 20 planes(3DB-2TB i m guessing) and i only killed 1 plane. 7 min 20 planes only one died and i took 2-3 bombs and died. It shouldnt be like this. About that arty comment. At wot you cant see a shell flying towards you and you dont have the time to dodge them.

This is my i guess 4th time saying this. I m talking about all destroyers in game. Not just one battle. Not just one destroyer. Alright? i m talking about those 260 games.